Are there diesels that don't mind low annual mileage?

TigerTim

Hi All,

Was looking for a cheap bangernomics car for Mrs T recently & finally picked up a cheap petrol C-Max. Saw plenty of diesel cars for sale, some within my budget. This got me wondering. Are there any diesel cars out there that don't mind low annual mileage & don't give EGR or DPF issues without going down the route of removing/remapping. She only does about 5000KM per year. I heard that the early Qashqai 1.5dci doesn't have a DPF. Budget was low, in Bangernomics territory. Maybe they don't exist

T.

earlytobed

My wife has a 2006 Toyota Corolla D4D, never an issue with lowish miles

Dravokivich

Low mileage doesn't matter. Its the getting the car to temp regularly when driving that does. 5000km a year, isn't a problem if they are ten 500km journeys.

TBH, when looking at cars focus on budget and what you need from it first, then Petrol/Diesel/PHEV/EV. Then eliminate/review on common issues or the occurence of issues.

bazz26

If only doing 5000 km a year then why would you even bother considering a diesel car, with that mileage there will be more cons than pros. In bangernomics territory you'r going to be looking at a higher mileage diesel that will have more wear and tear on it, more complex oily bits bolted onto it and with such tiny mileage your not going to even benefit from fuel savings.

TigerTim

bazz26 wrote: »

If only doing 5000 km a year then why would you even bother considering a diesel car, with that mileage there will be more cons than pros. In bangernomics territory you'r going to be looking at a higher mileage diesel that will have more wear and tear on it, more complex oily bits bolted onto it and with such tiny mileage your not going to even benefit from fuel savings.

You missed my query. I bought a petrol which is perfectly suitable for her school trips/shops etc. My question was are there any diesel that don't mind that start stop driving. Just out of curiosity. No plans on buying a diesel, just asked the question out of interest.

T.

Seweryn

Most Diesels made until 1990's will be OK wit that type of driving.

colm_mcm

Diesels without DPF will probably be ok

Not much point bothering with a diesel at that price level though unless you were saving a bit on fuel.

MetzgerMeister

As far as I know DPFs were introduced in 2009 so anything before that shouldn't have one.

Seweryn

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

As far as I know DPFs were introduced in 2009 so anything before that shouldn't have one.

They became mandatory in 2009, but some cars had them installed earlier. The first Diesel engines (M-B exported to USA) had DPF in mid 1980s for short period of time.

beauf

In the family we had an 2006 Astra 1.3 cdti with no dpf and low mileage.

beauf

Far easier to get a low mileage petrol. Most older diesels with high mileage seem very tatty.

colm_mcm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

As far as I know DPFs were introduced in 2009 so anything before that shouldn't have one.

I think a lot of french stuff had them well before then

biko

As this is a speculation thread I have moved it from Buying into main forum so posters don't think you're intending to buy something.

colm_mcm

Can we get a speculative buying forum?

biko

Every thread there is speculation and conjecture, but they start with an intent to buy

Del2005

TigerTim wrote: »

You missed my query. I bought a petrol which is perfectly suitable for her school trips/shops etc. My question was are there any diesel that don't mind that start stop driving. Just out of curiosity. No plans on buying a diesel, just asked the question out of interest.

T.

No ICE car likes stop start driving its just that petrol can take the abuse better than a diesel. Plenty of people who only do short trips in petrols wouldn't like to see how garages fix them when they loose performance.

0lddog

Seweryn wrote: »

Most Diesels made until 1990's will be OK wit that type of driving.

Dont count on it.

VAG turbo engines of that era like to have the turbo vanes stick. Things go a bit pear shaped when that happens. IIRC the turbos are made by Garrett - so probably is an issue with all Gerrett turbos used in small diesels.

Only small diesel happy with town driving that I can recall was the 1.9l unit that Pug fitted in the 80's ( 305, 205 etc - anyone here play with the fueling on a 205XRAD ) - no turbos on them either.

Seweryn

0lddog wrote: »

Dont count on it.

VAG turbo engines of that era like to have the turbo vanes stick. Things go a bit pear shaped when that happens. IIRC the turbos are made by Garrett - so probably is an issue with all Gerrett turbos used in small diesels.

Only small diesel happy with town driving that I can recall was the 1.9l unit that Pug fitted in the 80's ( 305, 205 etc - anyone here play with the fueling on a 205XRAD ) - no turbos on them either.

Well, I said most Diesels will be fine. An ultimate one would be a Mercedes-Benz motor. They were all normally aspirated in RHD, so very capable. Or as mentioned 1.9 Peugeot.

selectamatic

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think a lot of french stuff had them well before then

The psa 1.6hdi from that era in particular is not well suited to constant short spins.

0lddog wrote: »

VAG turbo engines of that era like to have the turbo vanes stick. Things go a bit pear shaped when that happens. IIRC the turbos are made by Garrett - so probably is an issue with all Gerrett turbos used in small diesels.

Turbo vanes sticking on 1.9tdi vag cars isn't really all that common since the earlier pd's and tends to be linked to poor maintenance moreso than short trips really.

In the case of the 100bhp 105bhp and 115bhp engines it doesn't seem to crop up much at all as an issue.

Mk1 Octavia available till 2010 1.9tdi 100bhp
Mk1 Superb available till 2009 1.9tdi 115bhp would be 2 I'd pick.

Toyota 2.0d4d engines aren't too bothered by short spins either.

TigerTim

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Toyota 2.0d4d engines aren't too bothered by short spins either.[/QUOTE]

You do see a lot of Taxi drivers with the Toyota Avensis 2.0d4d

T.

0lddog

selectamatic wrote: »

......Turbo vanes sticking on 1.9tdi vag cars isn't really all that common since the earlier pd's and tends to be linked to poor maintenance moreso than short trips really. ........

I was thinking of the TDs and pre-PD TDIs. ( never owned a PD or later VAG so no comment there )

kermitpwee

Corolla 1.4d4d pre 2009 has solid flywheel and no dpf.