Adult autism assessment

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote:

OP get this book out of the library before you waste money on these charlatans.

I'm autistic, jog on!

vriesmays

Fleetwoodmac wrote: »

Vriesmays this argument your presenting is not fair to the OP. They didn't ask our opinion on the pros or cons of pursuing a diagnosis... start another thread if it helps you.

All I'm saying is these made-up mental illnesses come and go depending on how society changes. These so-called experts were diagnosing people with Aspergers a few years back but now it doesn't exist anymore. It got recently removed from the psychiatric manual just like homosexuality did back in the 1970s.

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote:

All I'm saying is these made-up mental illnesses come and go depending on how society changes. These so-called experts were diagnosing people with Aspergers a few years back but now it doesn't exist anymore. It got recently removed from the psychiatric manual just like homosexuality did back in the 1970s.

Oh ffs, do some research, I'm an aspie, and I exist with it. It was reclassified under dsm 5 as an ASD

vriesmays

Exactly, it doesn't exist anymore. Just like autism won't exist in a few years when it gets reclassified as something else. That manual assumes mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance in the head. This has never been proved.

Fleetwoodmac

vriesmays wrote: »

Exactly, it doesn't exist anymore. Just like autism won't exist in a few years when it gets reclassified as something else. That manual assumes mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance in the head. This has never been proved.

Wow are you really that insensitive that you would continue to push your own agenda despite the OP not requesting same...please be graceful and kind and just let it go.

kayevajo

Autism wont exist anymore.

Even though it's a genetic condition.

What kind of nonsense are u talking

about

vriesmays wrote: »

Exactly, it doesn't exist anymore. Just like autism won't exist in a few years when it gets reclassified as something else. That manual assumes mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance in the head. This has never been proved.

PTH2009

Fleetwoodmac wrote: »

https://fionaolearyblog.wordpress.com/2020/02/22/exposing-so-called-clinical-neuro-psychologist-goldsmith-and-her-dodgy-certs/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Coincidentally this issue appears to have escalated over the past few days... OP fortunate that you sought advice prior to pursuing an assessment if these claims are correct

Felt sick reading about that piece of crap

I was born and reared in the 80/90s/00s and I know are parents were gullible about taking doctors advise and taking everything they said as final say but this/these people took advantage knowing that

vriesmays

Fleetwoodmac wrote: »

Wow are you really that insensitive that you would continue to push your own agenda despite the OP not requesting same...please be graceful and kind and just let it go.

Where's the post that the OP requested I stop. You're making things up to shut down someone who's questioning the mental health industry scam.

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote: »

Where's the post that the OP requested I stop. You're making things up to shut down someone who's questioning the mental health industry scam.

what?

vriesmays

If you went to hospital with a sore arm would the doctor ask you a few dozen questions to decide if it's broken. Of course not, you'd get an x-ray done. That's what they can't do with mental health issues. They can't prove anything. It's all based on opinion.

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote: »

If you went to hospital with a sore arm would the doctor ask you a few dozen questions to decide if it's broken. Of course not, you'd get an x-ray done. That's what they can't do with mental health issues. They can't prove anything. It's all based on opinion.

again, what?

vriesmays

Can you prove you have aspergers, saying what all the time isn't enough.

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote: »

Can you prove you have aspergers, saying what all the time isn't enough.

yes, i drool a lot and have two arses

vriesmays

Which one are you talking out of today.

Wanderer78

vriesmays wrote: »

Which one are you talking out of today.

my mouth is in the ear, common with being an aspie

vriesmays

Is typing in all lower case another symptom.

victor8600

vriesmays wrote: »

Is typing in all lower case another symptom.

Was it a question?

vriesmays

No.

Fleetwoodmac

vriesmays wrote: »

Where's the post that the OP requested I stop. You're making things up to shut down someone who's questioning the mental health industry scam.

I didn't state the OP requested you to stop.... read it... I stated you are pushing an agenda and derailing a thread. The OP simply asked for referral advice... it's not at all complex. If you wish to have a critical analysis of the advantages or otherwise of diagnosing, then start a thread on same. It's so easy... but now any validity in your argument is lost in your noise and insensitivity. And querying people's diagnosis is just nasty.

Fleetwoodmac

Wanderer78 wrote: »

my mouth is in the ear, common with being an aspie

Ignore him Wanderer78, he is a kid trolling

vriesmays

Fleetwoodmac wrote: »

I didn't state the OP requested you to stop.... read it... I stated you are pushing an agenda and derailing a thread. The OP simply asked for referral advice... it's not at all complex. If you wish to have a critical analysis of the advantages or otherwise of diagnosing, then start a thread on same. It's so easy... but now any validity in your argument is lost in your noise and insensitivity. And querying people's diagnosis is just nasty.

I read post 36 and you did say it. Why should I be sensitive saying the mental health industry is a scam and thousands of people are on meds for invented illnesses which won't exist in a few years.

debok

Lads ye have surely seen vriesmay before. Why get involved. The most bitter posts on boards. Just ignore

skooterblue2

PTH2009 wrote: »

Anyone knw of an aldult austim assessment place in Waterford ??

The public health service is a nightmare and I'm finding it hard to find a worthwhile assessment

Hi OP,
If you are looking for an assessment, we got a referral from the family network of nurses and this was their conclusion.
There are no good psychologist either public or private in the South East (Waterford, Kilkenny, Wexford, Tipp and Carlow) suitable for an Adult diagnosis of ASD. You are going to have to either "put up or shut up" or Travel.

We were recommended Seamas Feehan (Reg Psych). You will have to find him yourself if you want. Its another thing to get a GP to accept the diagnosis. Mine told me it wasnt it and refused it, then she had to get me to spell it after someone "advised" her to read it properly the second time. My advice, pay for a proper one because there isnt any good ones in the HSE. Also having a doctor who can read helps.

Aspire keeps a database of "suitable" psychologist, the girls there are lovely to talk to. AsIam, are only interested in donations. They dont actually do anything when you call.

Wanderer78

skooterblue2 wrote:

Aspire keeps a database of "suitable" psychologist, the girls there are lovely to talk to. AsIam, are only interested in donations. They dont actually do anything when you call.

I wouldn't pass ept Kilkenny, not cheap though

skooterblue2

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I wouldn't pass ept Kilkenny, not cheap though

Are they relatively new? Like within the last 7 years? They werent on the radar when we enquired.

Wanderer78

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Are they relatively new? Like within the last 7 years? They werent on the radar when we enquired.

yea i think they are, i know someone who was assessed there last year, i was very impressed with the service they got, not cheap though, also recommended from our mutual source

skooterblue2

Wanderer78 wrote: »

yea i think they are, i know someone who was assessed there last year, i was very impressed with the service they got, not cheap though, also recommended from our mutual source

They are only opened about 18 months. I havent checked the Aspie register in a while, maybe they are on it. They would have been on it when I was looking for a referral 7 years ago. The nurses were absolutely scathing of the psychologists in Waterford. You have to remember that 10 years ago HFA/Aspergers was unheard of in Ireland it was kept a secret with a veil of shame. Now people are more open about it. There are more qualified people coming out of University leaving with specialist qualifications in Autism than there were before.
"Good service isnt cheap, Cheap service isnt good".

The HSE would leave you dying on the wire with the crows picking your eyes out before they would look up to help you. You have to go private, time is money. God Bless the HSE, the most wasteful organisation, akin to the Keystone Cop with medicine.

skooterblue2

PTH2009 wrote: »

Find the services in st johns (formerly brooke house) are poor and only there to hand you medication that doesn't work (in my case that was). Some GPs are also very poor at dealing with these issues

PTH2009 wrote: »

I just found the whole mental health system confusing. Its was just a revolving door of quick check ups and medication prescriptions.

Need an official diagnosis this time round no going around in confusing circles

GPs are dopes who often who have HFA themselves and refuse to acknowledge it. You need to learn a little law and learn how to talk to them. I went from a compliant little boy and "Doctor, knows best" to a holy terror "Do you actually know anything about autism?". You do know there is a special line into the HSE for vulnerable people to complain? That makes them sit up in their seat.

Its not like you have enough on your plate with dealing with Autism without having to navigate the HSE. Also antidepressants are no good as they dont work for aspies, but trying to get off antidepressants is near impossible.

Start off with getting the diagnosis, then register with National Learning Network in Waterford (Probably done at this stage but for anyone else outside reading).
You are going to need the assistance of your GP to recommend you for a place (I am not joking, I wanted to slap my GP when she suggested it, despite having the psychologist report that it was not autism and "we need you back on medication").
Depending on your psychologists report, you may need "vocational training", this is code for a NLN course + Work experience and psychotherapy. The key word is "ENGAGE".
You need to work out the social welfare system, change over to Disability and start to get your life sorted. I am not telling you its going to be easy and you wont want to give up but it does get better and more manageable.
"The NLN is maths", the more you put in the more you get out. You will be one of the smarter ones in there so do your courses, try and talk to people, get on the student committee, try get on the regional committee.
Learn the meaning of the word "opportunity", it is a chance that is given to you for a specific time and then it is taken away from you. You will only get funding for the NLN for a year or two, make the most of everyday.
If you feel like you are wearing concrete boots going in there or feel like quitting on the first few days those are signs you are engaging and making progress.

Best of luck

Wanderer78

skooterblue2 wrote: »

GPs are dopes who often who have HFA themselves and refuse to acknowledge it. You need to learn a little law and learn how to talk to them. I went from a compliant little boy and "Doctor, knows best" to a holy terror "Do you actually know anything about autism?". You do know there is a special line into the HSE for vulnerable people to complain? That makes them sit up in their seat.

Its not like you have enough on your plate with dealing with Autism without having to navigate the HSE. Also antidepressants are no good as they dont work for aspies, but trying to get off antidepressants is near impossible.

my first time on an ssri, tis doing the job for me

skooterblue2

Wanderer78 wrote: »

my first time on an ssri, tis doing the job for me

hmmmm Didnt work for me and horrible withdrawal symptoms same with the SSNI.