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China builds a 1,000 bed hospital in 6 days

  • 02-02-2020 6:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 18,759 ✭✭✭✭ Muahahaha


    And is now building another one with 1,600 beds expected to be complete within ten days.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51245156
    How is China able to build a hospital in six days?
    "China has a record of getting things done fast even for monumental projects like this," says Yanzhong Huang, a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    He points out that the hospital in Beijing in 2003 was built in seven days so the construction team is probably attempting to beat that record. Just like the hospital in Beijing, the Wuhan centre will be made out of prefabricated buildings.

    "This authoritarian country relies on this top down mobilisation approach. They can overcome bureaucratic nature and financial constraints and are able to mobilise all of the resources."

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Amirani


    They're very loose with their health and safety regulations, and implementation and enforcement of those that exist.

    Ironically, if they were stronger on health and safety than we may not have seen the conditions in the live animal market that lead to the Corona Virus outbreak, and hence probably wouldn't have needed the new hospitals...

    I'd be very cautions before hoping to change our labour or planning laws to model ourselves on China.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ Yellow_Fern


    Mainland Chinese infrastructure and construction is very low quality.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,299 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dravokivich


    The speed of its build is a vanity project for China. They also have an extremely large workforce, with little to no rights.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,646 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    Mainland Chinese infrastructure and construction is very low quality.

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    They built that one sideways


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,817 ✭✭✭ Bullocks


    Be interesting to see how this place holds up over the first while.
    It's a massive achievement either way. Can you imagine Simon Harris taking on a challenge like this haha?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,299 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dravokivich


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Be interesting to see how this place holds up over the first while.
    It's a massive achievement either way. Can you imagine Simon Harris taking on a challenge like this haha?

    Why are you pointing at Simon Harris? No western country would do it at such short notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 Andrew33


    I’m guessing it’s more of a 1000 bed WARD rather than a full surgical hospital.
    Still impressive none the less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭ banie01


    These places aren't meant to hold up or offer long term care.
    Its best equated with a very large M.A.S.H or god forbid ;)
    The standard Irish primary/secondary school prefab of the last few decades.

    This isn't a large scale infrastructure project by the Chinese, it's a glorified triage station that they hope doesn't become a charnel house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭ realdanbreen


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Be interesting to see how this place holds up over the first while.
    It's a massive achievement either way. Can you imagine Simon Harris taking on a challenge like this haha?

    I don’t suppose you'd get very far objecting to it because it was endangering some species of snail?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭ antoinolachtnai


    They also have plans for this ready to go and maybe materials too. The lads in the architects office of the local planning authority didn’t just go out on Wednesday morning before last looking for a suitable field and a man with a few girders.

    When you have a billion people living in close quarters you have to have contingency plans.

    You can’t really complain about poor safety standards in an emergency facility. It’s like complaining about a tent being a bit windy. (These criticisms might be valid for other types of building.)

    You can mobilize a lot of people quick too in Ireland if you have leadership, a plan, money resources and a national scale emergency.

    If we needed this, I fear that where would fall down would be the lack of a plan.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,759 ✭✭✭✭ Muahahaha


    We wouldnt need a facility like this, sure we've all still got our iodine tablets up in the cupboard :pac:

    Joking aside if the Irish gov. did ever have to build a field hospital of that scale in a short time frame would the army even have a plan in place on how to go about it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭ odyssey06


    This is just a temporary emergency measure right?

    The real test is equipping it and staffing it for this crisis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭ JustAThought


    In the city centre in Dublin the army have - ready to go - field accommodation to hold hundreds of people and mobile kitchens, sanitary facilities and treatment units in addition to mobile field coms that can be launched at ‘the drop of a hat’. What begggars belief is that for ancivillian disaster the local county councils have to ask the army for their help and the government does not stop this archiac and union driven nonsense. If it were me, I’d have the engineers in the army out supervising the quality of roadworks and emptying drains and testing the quality of water and doing mountain rescues to maintain their skills and fitness - what exact use are they to our taxpaying Irish citizens on a day to day basis? In Ireland?

    Regarding Chinese hospitals it has long beggered belief that nooone can or will think outside the box in our ongoing HSE crisis where they pull out every health and safety rule to facilitate and enable the crisis to continue. Volunteers in MSF and Goal can jump into disaster zones without roads in third world countries and create life saving temporary field hosputals that can treat and save the lives of thousands, but our administrative ‘experts’ and ‘managers’ on six figure salaries for life cannot think their way out of a room full of open doors - it beggars belief.

    Well done china. Sorry about the snails.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭ plodder


    There's a timelapse video of the construction on RTE. It looks like a lot of prefabricated, modular, units, all linked together. I imagine they had planned for this over many years and the units were probably already built, fitted out with beds and other medical equipment. I know at least one hotel here, built using the same technique, albeit somewhat more slowly :)

    Like the hotel though, the end result is a real building, that should last a long time.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2020/0203/1112934-china-hospital-construction/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ Yellow_Fern


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    We wouldnt need a facility like this, sure we've all still got our iodine tablets up in the cupboard :pac:

    Joking aside if the Irish gov. did ever have to build a field hospital of that scale in a short time frame would the army even have a plan in place on how to go about it?

    You saw this with refugee camps a few years back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭ CrabRevolution


    In the city centre in Dublin the army have - ready to go - field accommodation to hold hundreds of people and mobile kitchens, sanitary facilities and treatment units in addition to mobile field coms that can be launched at ‘the drop of a hat’. What begggars belief is that for ancivillian disaster the local county councils have to ask the army for their help and the government does not stop this archiac and union driven nonsense. If it were me, I’d have the engineers in the army out supervising the quality of roadworks and emptying drains and testing the quality of water and doing mountain rescues to maintain their skills and fitness - what exact use are they to our taxpaying Irish citizens on a day to day basis? In Ireland?

    Regarding Chinese hospitals it has long beggered belief that nooone can or will think outside the box in our ongoing HSE crisis where they pull out every health and safety rule to facilitate and enable the crisis to continue. Volunteers in MSF and Goal can jump into disaster zones without roads in third world countries and create life saving temporary field hosputals that can treat and save the lives of thousands, but our administrative ‘experts’ and ‘managers’ on six figure salaries for life cannot think their way out of a room full of open doors - it beggars belief.

    Well done china. Sorry about the snails.

    I think the public expect better than the hospitals you get in refugee camps.

    The key word you mention is "volunteer". Anyone working in a war or disaster zone does so out of altruism or sense of duty to those who have no other options. You won't have anyone volunteering their services in a functioning health system in a first world country.


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