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Attic Conversion Planning

  • 24-01-2020 11:51am
    #1
    ShayC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭


    I've been advised from an architectural designer that : The max allowable extended area at first floor level/attic conversion is 20sqm for a detached dwelling, so we will need planning.

    I can't find any information on this online so wondered if anyone else was aware. It was my understanding that so long as there was no change to the shape of the roof, planning was not required.

    Thanks.


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  • #2
    TheW1zard
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    Youre attic is 2nd floor. He means ground floor.
    Crack on


  • #3
    rayjdav
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    ^^^^ :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    There have been recent cases where converted attics have been refused by ABP. The reason is that planning was granted for area x and the house gross internal area has now increased to y, so therefore you have actually increased your allowable permitted floor area, especially if there are other extensions to the original footprint, beyond the exemption limits as set out under class 1(1)(c) of the regs. 20msq for detached and 12msq for semi/terraced.

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/legislations/planning_and_development_regulations_2001_-_2019unofficial_consolidationannotated12.11.19.pdf

    Your arch is right.


  • #4
    TheW1zard
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    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-planning/frequently-asked-questions-planning#If%20I%20build%20an%20attic%20conversion%20do%20I%20need%20permission?


  • #5
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Youre attic is 2nd floor. He means ground floor.
    Crack on

    Could be a bungalow.
    The OP says their first floor/attic which to me means it could be one in the same.

    Maybe the OP can confirm.

    But I would of the school that would agree that attic conversions within the original roof are exempt from planning.

    Obviously building regulations are required.


  • #6
    ShayC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭ShayC


    kceire wrote: »
    Could be a bungalow.
    The OP says their first floor/attic which to me means it could be one in the same.

    Maybe the OP can confirm.

    But I would of the school that would agree that attic conversions within the original roof are exempt from planning.

    Obviously building regulations are required.

    Thanks all for the replies.

    Yes, we have a bungalow and want to convert the attic.
    I'm aware of lots of friends with converted attics who didn't get planning. I can't find anything online which contradicts the understanding that planning is only needed if changing the roofline.


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  • #7
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    ShayC wrote: »
    Thanks all for the replies.

    Yes, we have a bungalow and want to convert the attic.
    I'm aware of lots of friends with converted attics who didn't get planning. I can't find anything online which contradicts the understanding that planning is only needed if changing the roofline.
    the conversion of the attic to provide accommodation would not come
    within the scope of Section 4 (1)(h) of the Planning and Development
    Act, 2000, as amended, as it would not consist of the carrying out of
    works for the maintenance, improvement or other alteration of the
    structure, but would rather involve the extension of the residential
    floorspace of the existing dwelling,

    from the attached ABP decision


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