Further Tractor Protests This Week

Skill Magill

Haven’t heard much on this, is it going ahead?
Midwest Radio :

Farmers from across the West will make their way to Dublin again next Wednesday for a tractor protest in the city centre.

Individual farmers are taking the action to again highlight the poor prices being paid for beef, compared to prices in the UK, and say enough progress is not being made at the Beef Task Force meetings.

The tractor protest will get underway at 2pm on Wednesday in Merrion Square, and is being supported by a number of farming organisations.

Ballyhaunis-based farmer Enda Lyons says that this protest will be bigger than the one that brought traffic to a standstill in Dublin before Christmas, with over 400 farmers expected

wrangler

Skill Magill wrote: »

Haven’t heard much on this, is it going ahead?
Midwest Radio :

Farmers from across the West will make their way to Dublin again next Wednesday for a tractor protest in the city centre.

Individual farmers are taking the action to again highlight the poor prices being paid for beef, compared to prices in the UK, and say enough progress is not being made at the Beef Task Force meetings.

The tractor protest will get underway at 2pm on Wednesday in Merrion Square, and is being supported by a number of farming organisations.

Ballyhaunis-based farmer Enda Lyons says that this protest will be bigger than the one that brought traffic to a standstill in Dublin before Christmas, with over 400 farmers expected

RTE is expecting Leo to dissolve the dail on Wednesday so there's likely to be no one at home in the Dail on Wed/Thurs

Keepgrowing

wrangler wrote: »

RTE is expecting Leo to dissolve the dail on Wednesday so there's likely to be no one at home in the Dail on Wed/Thurs

Ah feck, I hoped no one would tell them

toleratethis

wrangler wrote: »

RTE is expecting Leo to dissolve the dail on Wednesday so there's likely to be no one at home in the Dail on Wed/Thurs

It'll save Charlie calling out the RIC to quash the peasants I suppose

_Brian

If the Dail is dissolved today and not sitting tomorrow during the protest.

Is there any point going and just inconveniencing ordinary punters ??

Outside the “yellow vest” types is there any public support for choking up the capital ??

Good loser

Repeating the same mistake over and over - the definition of ma*ness!

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

If the Dail is dissolved today and not sitting tomorrow during the protest.

Is there any point going and just inconveniencing ordinary punters ??

Outside the “yellow vest” types is there any public support for choking up the capital ??

Factories are probably delighted that they are blocking Dublin rather than their gates.

Anto_Meath

No point driving tractors to the Dail tomorrow, there will be no one there now..

_Brian

In fairness Leo has pulled a master stroke on this.

Dail will be empty tomorrow so the tractorcade will be to nothing.

Better than that it will inconvenience ordinary punters and damage the reputation of farming communities round the country, because with no government sitting why go there and protest.

The protest is dead and meaningless before the first tractor is even started. Leo wins this time.

bogman_bass

I think you are being a bit flattering there Brian that that even came into his thinking.
It is very convenient however.

Jb1989

bogman_bass wrote: »

I think you are being a bit flattering there Brian that that even came into his thinking.
It is very convenient however.

Yea, I'm sure the health service slander was more on Leo's mind to dodge, than farmers slowing traffic.

K.G.

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness Leo has pulled a master stroke on this.

Dail will be empty tomorrow so the tractorcade will be to nothing.

Better than that it will inconvenience ordinary punters and damage the reputation of farming communities round the country, because with no government sitting why go there and protest.

The protest is dead and meaningless before the first tractor is even started. Leo wins this time.

Do you really think leo said"if i dissolve the dail ill avoid the tractor proteat".didnt cross his mind for one second

Sierra Oscar

I’m assuming this has been called off? Madness to grind the city to a halt when there aren’t even any TD’s or Ministers in their offices. Efforts better placed in individual constituencies at this stage.

Effects

_Brian wrote: »

Outside the “yellow vest” types is there any public support for choking up the capital ??

Yeah. I like seeing them protest in the capital. Frees up some streets so it's nicer to walk and cycle on them.

Base price

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I’m assuming this has been called off? Madness to grind the city to a halt when there aren’t even any TD’s or Ministers in their offices. Efforts better placed in individual constituencies at this stage.

Apparently it is still going ahead.
https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/tractor-protest-dublin/23928618
https://www.joe.ie/news/gardai-issue-warning-ahead-large-scale-protest-dublin-wednesday-morning-690928?fbclid=IwAR1jj_sLUZc6jCF-TpyFC2BZqG6Is8BCHtKTIRKVhj1pdcL8URq2FPgjaf0

veetwin

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/tractor-protest-dublin/23928618

What language is this ad written in? Serious question. Also what do they hope to achieve?

Farmer_3650

Tractors gone up from the west tonight

dohc turbo2

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

Tractors gone up from the west tonight

Who is organising it , makes no sense with no dail , only pising off the public when you want there support

Farmer_3650

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

Who is organising it , makes no sense with no dail , only pising off the public when you want there support

I agree with ya waste of time going up but I think the eu commissioner is there today

bogman_bass

On newstalk now

funkyouup

His "civic right to do so" just listening to that now and hes thinks its his civic right to block up the city with tractors, absolute pricks.

patsy_mccabe

https://twitter.com/ajwwoods/status/1217368505785470976

Farmer_3650

funkyouup wrote: »

His "civic right to do so" just listening to that now and hes thinks its his civic right to block up the city with tractors, absolute pricks.

Don't think that's a fair comment to make. The organisers of this protest notified all relevant authorities well in advance so they would cause minimal disruption to people getting to work. This allowed gardai to have streets blocked in advance too. The same cant be said about alot of protests such as the water charges protests for example, where roads were blocked and cars not let out, with no warning or proper planning.

funkyouup

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

Don't think that's a fair comment to make.

Whats not fair about it?, it was what he said.
And arent they wonderful for letting the Gardai know in advance so as to cause minimal disruption blocking up the middle of Dublin with 60 tractors for 24 hours in the middle of the week:rolleyes:

Farmer_3650

funkyouup wrote: »

Whats not fair about it?, it was what he said.
And arent they wonderful for letting the Gardai know in advance so as to cause minimal disruption blocking up the middle of Dublin with 60 tractors for 24 hours in the middle of the week:rolleyes:

There's 5 streets blocked not the full city. Public transport is not being blocked. Not like people cant get into the city and get to work. Any delays caused are unfortunate but people knew about this protest well in advance

gerryirl

funkyouup wrote: »

His "civic right to do so" just listening to that now and hes thinks its his civic right to block up the city with tractors, absolute pricks.

when you open your fridge every day try to remember,Its them "absolute pricks" that produced alot of what you have in it

Cattlepen

The biggest stupidest tractor run in Ireland. A day out for wildcat gob****es with an agenda so diverse that they would remind you of the people’s front of judea and the judean people’s front from the life of brian

K.G.

Looks like the fci are hijacking these protests to highlight the carbon tax on contractors

Grueller

K.G. wrote: »

Looks like the fci are hijacking these protests to highlight the carbon tax contractors will pass on to farmers

Finished you post there for you K.G

richie123

Beef farmers are their own worst enemy.we keep producing something that is practically worthless,and we keep doing it.

valtra2

Never heard anything about this today.

richie123

richie123 wrote: »

Beef farmers are their own worst enemy.we keep producing something that is practically worthless,and we keep doing it.

Any ideas for alternative produce though

funkyouup

gerryirl wrote: »

when you open your fridge every day try to remember,Its them "absolute pricks" that produced alot of what you have in it

I dont see that myself, but im not seeing that protest as a representation of irish farmers as a whole, just a very small number with tractors big enough to block a road when ever the mood takes them.

Bleating Lamb

Today’s protest not getting too favourable of a feedback from ‘The Tonight Show’......Ivan Yates emphasising the fact that it was a ‘wildcat action’.

Bleating Lamb

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Today’s protest not getting too favourable of a feedback from ‘The Tonight Show’......Ivan Yates emphasising the fact that it was a ‘wildcat action’.

Ivan is a wind up merchant, a chip on his shoulder because of his own failures

richie123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any ideas for alternative produce though

Swallow the pride lease the farm and get a job.give your head a break
from banging a wall..I've yet to listen to my own advice unfortunately.

valtra2

richie123 wrote: »

Swallow the pride lease the farm and get a job.give your head a break
from banging a wall..I've yet to listen to my own advice unfortunately.

Unfortunately this is the best advice going and also I have yet to listen to it. Another year of this and I will seriously consider it.

Allinall

Lease the farm to who, exactly?

_Brian

Allinall wrote: »

Lease the farm to who, exactly?

There seems to be an ever lasting list of lads waiting to lease land and pay more than sucklers farming does.

If one was looking at income alone it’s the sensible solution. You could stack shelves in Tesco or Aldi amd rent the land, much better income level regular hours etc.

richie123

Allinall wrote: »

Lease the farm to who, exactly?

Dairy men most likely.only show in town for the last 30 year.

K.G.

Do lads that organised this tractor thing realise just how badly yhey have played their hand.they are just showing politicans just how little support they have.its the same fellas just more brought their tractors this time.would it have a better strategy to field candidates in the general election to use the momentum of the factory protests to get a few extra votes.not that i think they would get elected but a 1000 votes would really pressurize the other candidates to get elected and would be a show of power.theres lots of people wouldnt travel to Dublin but would give a old scratch in an election

Sheep breeder

K.G. wrote: »

Do lads that organised this tractor thing realise just how badly yhey have played their hand.they are just showing politicans just how little support they have.its the same fellas just more brought their tractors this time.would it have a better strategy to field candidates in the general election to use the momentum of the factory protests to get a few extra votes.not that i think they would get elected but a 1000 votes would really pressurize the other candidates to get elected and would be a show of power.theres lots of people wouldnt travel to Dublin but would give a old scratch in an election

If two fellas say ran in creeds area and done a deal for no transfers to him would put him under pressure to get re-elected, the same could be said for Doyle in Wicklow and deering in Carlow and boxer Moran who propped up the government. Would be better than above in Dublin sleeping in tractors and upsetting the buyers of beef.

K.G.

Sheep breeder wrote: »

If two fellas say ran in creeds area and done a deal for no transfers to him would put him under pressure to get re-elected, the same could be said for Doyle in Wicklow and deering in Carlow and boxer Moran who propped up the government. Would be better than above in Dublin sleeping in tractors and upsetting the buyers of beef.

You got to hit them all because no one knows whos going to be in next and in what job

richie123

K.G. wrote: »

Do lads that organised this tractor thing realise just how badly yhey have played their hand.they are just showing politicans just how little support they have.its the same fellas just more brought their tractors this time.would it have a better strategy to field candidates in the general election to use the momentum of the factory protests to get a few extra votes.not that i think they would get elected but a 1000 votes would really pressurize the other candidates to get elected and would be a show of power.theres lots of people wouldnt travel to Dublin but would give a old scratch in an election

What would that achieve?there's far too much beef being produced fullstop.factories will not be forced to pay anymore than they need to.changing over 30 month/ movement etc..specifications is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Farmers have more control than they think.
Stop producing a product that does not cover it's cost.
Stop blaming everyone else.stop looking for handouts.

ruwithme

richie123 wrote: »

What would that achieve?there's far too much beef being produced fullstop.factories will not be forced to pay anymore than they need to.changing over 30 month/ movement etc..specifications is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Farmers have more control than they think.
Stop producing a product that does not cover it's cost.
Stop blaming everyone else.stop looking for handouts.

Agree. We already have the handouts. some just can't resist reinvesting it in cattle farming

_Brian

Saw on Twitter there they are en route to Dublin port, what’s the plans when there ??

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

Saw on Twitter there they are en route to Dublin port, what’s the plans when there ??

Slow drive on the M50

funkyouup

any idea how long their on the m50 for?

richie123

Jjameson wrote: »

I agree. when you take out 3000 family owned abattoirs and butchers and gift control of an industry to a cartel of 8 families it’s hard to really know when the the market is at saturation point and poor prices ensue. The answer to poor prices we are educated to believe is higher output and more efficient production.

The opposite may well be the case.

The opposite is most definitely the case ,a decent scarcity is what's going to recover prices.

wrangler

funkyouup wrote: »

any idea how long their on the m50 for?

They say they're going to the port for a couple of hours, it might be easier to get them into the port than get them out of it. :rolleyes:
Damien O reilly on the Journal said that it's like a bad sequel to John Dillons 2003 Tractorcade

gerryirl

funkyouup wrote: »

I dont see that myself, but im not seeing that protest as a representation of irish farmers as a whole, just a very small number with tractors big enough to block a road when ever the mood takes them.

you dont see it.. Who produces the food you buy in the shop do you think ?.. the Easter Bunny or a bunch of Fairies.

Every part of society has the right to protest and each and everyone of us has been put out by a strike at some stage id imagine, but most of us get on with it and realise they are not striking because they want too so the "mood" as you put it did not take these farmers. They all didnt get up someday and think you know what 'Ill drive to Dublin in my tractor and block a road just because I can. They did it for a reason and a bloody good one at that. If you went to work and come every friday you expect a few pound to be put in the bank for you and every friday you go and theres not much in it. Would you do nothing ?. Its a similar thing here. Farmers are producing food at below the cost of production.

Yes rant and rave about big tractors but again farmers buy the size of tractor their farm requires so if its big/ small its whatever it is , Its not like buying a car for the sake of it. I have a 100hp tractor cause it does what I need it to do . My contractor has a 200 hp . again becasue that does what he needs it to do

So maybe before you come on a public forum and call people pricks, educate yourself on the whole story first