81 year old FAKE NEWS story.

Jinglejangle69

I'm sure we all have heard about the fictitious 81 year old homeless woman discgharged from hospital and now homeless.

Anyway RTÉ clarified the story to be BS yet the journal.ie still has it up as fact.

Why do people lap this nonsense up every day and believe every stupid nonsensical story they read?

Ubbquittious

I didn't believe it when I read it tbh.



I was hoping this thread would be about a fake news story, published 81 years ago

Trigger Happy

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I didn't believe it when I read it tbh.



I was hoping this thread would be about a fake news story, published 81 years ago

Enjoy.
https://news.gallup.com/vault/226658/gallup-vault-propaganda-fake-news-1939.aspx

humberklog

Orson Welles' radio version War of the Worlds was broadcast in October 1938.

Jinglejangle69

Yessssssssssss!!

Gatling

Any link ?

Stheno

Gatling wrote: »

Any link ?

Must be this one

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/homeless-81-year-old-woman-found-outside-gpo-to-be-prioritised-for-housing-38851373.html

Melania Frump

Knew this was fake the minute I heard it. There is no hospital on earth that would release an 81 year old woman with no forwarding address.

Jinglejangle69

Melania Frump wrote: »

Knew this was fake the minute I heard it. There is no hospital on earth that would release an 81 year old woman with no forwarding address.

https://www.thejournal.ie/81-year-old-dublin-homeless-4961643-Jan2020/

Journal still have it up as gospel.

Absolute rag.

q85dw7osi4lebg

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/81-year-old-dublin-homeless-4961643-Jan2020/

Journal still have it up as gospel.

Absolute rag.

Don’t forget who owns the site or you may forget your login details shortly

Ten of Swords

This is the RTE link which says she was aged in her 60s, not 80s, and had accommodation arranged for 2 nights after her discharge from hospital

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0110/1105529-homeless-woman-dublin/

LaFuton

Jane Muscular Strikeout wrote: »

Don’t forget who owns the site or you may forget your login details shortly

who owns it?

genuine question

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/81-year-old-dublin-homeless-4961643-Jan2020/

Journal still have it up as gospel.

Absolute rag.

Have you a link to the story on RTE?

markodaly

Expect a lot more of this during the upcoming election.

It depresses me that with each passing day, Ireland is following in the footsteps of Brexit Britain and Trump's America swallowing Fake and dishonest news wholesale.

The Satanist

Pfft only in her 60s. She should get a job and be happy to pay €2k a month for an apartment.

Raconteuse

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why do people lap this nonsense up every day and believe every stupid nonsensical story they read?

Because they want to believe it. Love of drama and scandal and being enraged and witch hunting.

Abba987

The Satanist wrote: »

Pfft only in her 60s. She should get a job and be happy to pay €2k a month for an apartment.

Spot on

q85dw7osi4lebg

LaFuton wrote: »

who owns it?

genuine question

Majority stake is by owners of this very site

Assetbacked

markodaly wrote: »

Expect a lot more of this during the upcoming election.

It depresses me that with each passing day, Ireland is following in the footsteps of Brexit Britain and Trump's America swallowing Fake and dishonest news wholesale.

The same people that peddle these sob stories would then laugh at the idea that we should consider leaving the EU. The link I am making is that we will be told FG are failing and Irish society is falling apart but we have lost a lot of sovereignty from being in the EU and arguably do not have sufficient control over our affairs to address housing in a more meaningful way. Irexit = recession = less people and therefore more houses. Accordingly, any type of sob story in the media such as this one must be treated with extreme scepticism and the outrage brigade have agendas.

markodaly

Assetbacked wrote: »

The same people that peddle these sob stories would then laugh at the idea that we should consider leaving the EU. The link I am making is that we will be told FG are failing and Irish society is falling apart but we have lost a lot of sovereignty from being in the EU and arguably do not have sufficient control over our affairs to address housing in a more meaningful way. Irexit = recession = less people and therefore more houses. Accordingly, any type of sob story in the media such as this one must be treated with extreme scepticism and the outrage brigade have agendas.

Well leaving the EU is an extreme notion. Maybe SF may advocate it, as they have always been anti-EU but that is their business.

However, crashing the economy will fix the housing issue, in part. :pac:

You are correct though that the Dail only has so much sovereignty these days.
With all the stuff about the RIC, independence not many realise that we are not really all that sovereign anymore. Hence 1950's style of social housing is impossible for various reasons outside our control.

JustAThought

not to mention the little promoted face that all itinerants irrespective of whether they have a halting site, mobile home paid for by the state and 50k in benefits are automatically classed as ‘ himeless’ as are all their many children. And pensioners in state nursing himes who have and are sleeping in a permanent bed and have a til death do up part place and criminals of course -all lumped together and classed as homeless.

Sciprio

Whatever about this story but it seems like Jinglejangle69 is one of those blueshirts accounts telling us how well we have it. Have a look through it's profile.

jim salter

Jane Muscular Strikeout wrote: »

Majority stake is by owners of this very site

cúnts (and not just because of this)

pinkyeye

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I'm sure we all have heard about the fictitious 81 year old homeless woman discgharged from hospital and now homeless.

Anyway RTÉ clarified the story to be BS yet the journal.ie still has it up as fact.

Why do people lap this nonsense up every day and believe every stupid nonsensical story they read?

Where is your proof that this story is fake??

fritzelly

Am I reading this right - some woman lying about her age refused hostel accommodation (even tho people were working with her to home her) that was available after leaving hospital, some wannabe good samaritan got a councilor involved, secured nice hotel accommodation.
And this makes news, the fake kind - well I guess it does since it satisfies a certain section of societies agenda

pinkyeye wrote: »

Where is your proof that this story is fake??

She wasn't 81 and had accommodation available but refused it

greencap

Melania Frump wrote: »

Knew this was fake the minute I heard it. There is no hospital on earth that would release an 81 year old woman with no forwarding address.

Box 7.
Parcel motel.
Drumcondra maxol.

danger mouse

markodaly wrote: »

Expect a lot more of this during the upcoming election.

It depresses me that with each passing day, Ireland is following in the footsteps of Brexit Britain and Trump's America swallowing Fake and dishonest news wholesale.

Fake news has been around a very long time. Way before the events you mentioned. Didn't a scummy British rag for a paper print a story that Liverpool fans where pissing on dead bodies and stealing wallets during the Hillsborough Disaster. The ultimate fake news?. Its just a new outlet for the same oul same oul. We've swapped ****ty Red tops for ****ty internet media.

Edgware

Probably a sign of how social media will be use in the General election.
As L.B.J. said about an allegation that an election opponent was riding pigs.
" I know its not true but I just want see him deny it"

Fireball81

Scary thing is when people believe what they read online by these 'jounalists' (remember the brexit vote?)

TheChizler

How do we know the lying about her age and having accommodation part isn't false? Why vigorously choose to believe one story over the other? Don't have a clue what to believe here tbh.

ChikiChiki

markodaly wrote: »

Expect a lot more of this during the upcoming election.

It depresses me that with each passing day, Ireland is following in the footsteps of Brexit Britain and Trump's America swallowing Fake and dishonest news wholesale.

Nothwithstanding the fake news, there's still a homeless crisis and still hundreds of people on trolleys each year since FG took over on 2011 and they have had move than enough time to alleviate these issues.

They are just facts.

Kivaro

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I didn't believe it when I read it tbh.



I was hoping this thread would be about a fake news story, published 81 years ago

Hitler did not invade Poland.
Poland invaded Germany.

vriesmays

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Journal still have it up as gospel.

Absolute rag.

What a headline:

https://www.thejournal.ie/brendan-o-connor-marian-finucane-show-4960886-Jan2020/

05eaftqbrs9jlh

TheChizler wrote: »

How do we know the lying about her age and having accommodation part isn't false? Why vigorously choose to believe one story over the other? Don't have a clue what to believe here tbh.

This all day long.

Graces7

Exactly.

Seems when she was discharged she may have been told to go to a hostel as she is homeless but vehemently refused; these are not always good places. Was an interview a while ago with a young pregnant newly homeless woman sleeping in a shop doorway because of what she had been subjected to on a hostel.

She sounds also confused and hence the age confusion?

Fact is that she was in hospital so was ill enough to be there. Which means ill. and far from the first person to be prematurely discharged. Fact also is it was a dreadfully cold night for person let alone a elderly sick person to be wandering the streets, and at that age she needs more than a hostel and be turned out at 10 am

As far as I have seen the hospital are staying quiet.

Hope she is safe

TheChizler wrote: »

How do we know the lying about her age and having accommodation part isn't false? Why vigorously choose to believe one story over the other? Don't have a clue what to believe here tbh.

corner of hells

Graces7 wrote: »

Exactly.

Seems when she was discharged she may have been told to go to a hostel as she is homeless but vehemently refused; these are not always good places. Was an interview a while ago with a young pregnant newly homeless woman sleeping in a shop doorway because of what she had been subjected to on a hostel.

She sounds also confused and hence the age confusion?

Fact is that she was in hospital so was ill enough to be there. Which means ill. and far from the first person to be prematurely discharged. Fact also is it was a dreadfully cold night for person let alone a elderly sick person to be wandering the streets, and at that age she needs more than a hostel and be turned out at 10 am

As far as I have seen the hospital are staying quiet.

Hope she is safe

If you're homeless and in hospital, you must be discharged to some form of accommodation.
Both main Dublin city hospitals have homeless liaison teams of nurse and social workers.
Before discharge, accommodation would've have been sourced and documented where she was placed.
I'm working in homeless services years , sometimes you just have to read between the lines , theres more to that story than meets the eye.

Graces7

corner of hells wrote: »

If you're homeless and in hospital, you must be discharged to some form of accommodation.
Both main Dublin city hospitals have homeless liaison teams of nurse and social workers.
Before discharge, accommodation would've have been sourced and documented where she was placed.
I'm working in homeless services years , sometimes you just have to read between the lines , theres more to that story than meets the eye.

Agree but to wildly accuse as some have done? If they sent her to a hostel and she was scared? I know what I would do in such a situation.

There is indeed more to this than meets the eye. The authorities do not always get it right as I know personally to my cost and pain.

Over and out from me on this. I just hope she stays safe. She is my concern. For safety and peace

Just the attitudes here … Not yours I hasten to say.

Potential-Monke

Seems like something did happen, but it was blown way out of proportion in order to drive home the issue. It's why I'm reluctant to believe anything these days without solid proof. Not a bad way to live really, just means you will be left with only a few stories instead of all the media hysteria.

It's up there with those who put their children on social media in order to prove a point about homelessness, all in an effort to skip the queue and get something before someone else.

Gael23

There are so often more to these stories than meets the eye. This individual has mental health issues and gave an incorrect age to the person that picked her up.

She was discharged from hospital into the care of outreach workers and subsequently refused whatever interventions they had set up. However a hostel was never going to be the right place for such individuals.
I think legislation is needed here to allow for patients to be held in hospital against their will where there are welfare/mental health issues at play.

Jinglejangle69

Gael23 wrote: »

There are so often more to these stories than meets the eye. This individual has mental health issues and gave an incorrect age to the person that picked her up.

She was discharged from hospital into the care of outreach workers and subsequently refused whatever interventions they had set up. However a hostel was never going to be the right place for such individuals.
I think legislation is needed here to allow for patients to be held in hospital against their will where there are welfare/mental health issues at play.

So basically FAKE news as I stated in the OP.

How are the media allowed get away with this every day?

Irish Guitarist

If they saw this their heads would explode trying to decide which agenda they should push. https://twitter.com/rowanwcroft/status/1215738267875913728