The Chinese Paddlefish is extinct!

ILoveYourVibes

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/01/chinese-paddlefish-one-of-largest-fish-extinct/

They could grow to 23 ft long!

They had been around 150 million yrs!

Wibbs

Not a shock with the Chinese. Their record on environmental protection is shockingly bad. Never mind they'll eat damn near anything. A few years back I read of a herpetologist(reptile biologist) who found it was useful to trawl Chinese food markets on the look out for species and subspecies unknown to science. He found a couple and also found that other species they used to catch for food had all but vanished in the wild. Then you have their daft Chinese "medicine" ingredients that have directly affected animals including those form overseas. Africans have to protect their rhinos by cutting off their horns because rich Chinese with soft dicks think compressed rhino hair will get them working again and rich Arabs want rhino horn handles for their ceremonial daggers(soft dick syndrome there too I suspect).

SEPT 23 1989

the Chinese keep damming up anything bigger than a stream

ILoveYourVibes

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the Chinese keep damming up anything bigger than a stream

Yeah ..then it floods ...trying to divert a lot of natural flowing water all in the same area never works out well.

Trigger Happy

Not suprised at that Wibbs.
I spent a month and half in a Chinese costal city a good few years back. Have not eaten Chinese food since. Horrific.
The restaurants are all seafood in that place I was in. You go in the door and its an aquarium. That's the menu. You check out the live fish and pick the one you want. You then go upstairs to your table.
Your choice then gets delivered to your table either live (in the case of some eels which they then kill and briefly cook in front of you - it lands on your plate still twitching) or fully cooked.
The Chinese people I was with told me that they don't know what type fish they are eating a lot of the time. The labels in each tank in the aquarium never change but the types of fish do.

10000maniacs

Darn, was just going to Tesco to get some frozen paddlefish.
But seriously, hundreds of species go extinct each year. Some more important to the habitat than paddlefish.

Bob Harris

That's what happens when you're up the creek without a....

Hector Savage

Great bunch of lads...

ILoveYourVibes

This isn't a paddlefish but its a frilled shark and its pretty cool!

10000maniacs

Hector Savage wrote: »

Great bunch of lads...

Thanks.
We are all guilty.
Do you have anything plastic in your house?
The amount energy needed to create a 330 ML spring water plastic bottle is 3.4 megajoules.

Bob Harris

10000maniacs wrote: »

Thanks.
We are all guilty.
Do you have anything plastic in your house?
The amount energy needed to create a 330 ML spring water plastic bottle is 3.4 megajoules.

Only 500ml in my house. More efficient.

_Brian

Wibbs wrote: »

Not a shock with the Chinese. Their record on environmental protection is shockingly bad. Never mind they'll eat damn near anything. A few years back I read of a herpetologist(reptile biologist) who found it was useful to trawl Chinese food markets on the look out for species and subspecies unknown to science. He found a couple and also found that other species they used to catch for food had all but vanished in the wild. Then you have their daft Chinese "medicine" ingredients that have directly affected animals including those form overseas. Africans have to protect their rhinos by cutting off their horns because rich Chinese with soft dicks think compressed rhino hair will get them working again and rich Arabs want rhino horn handles for their ceremonial daggers(soft dick syndrome there too I suspect).

I was speaking to a Chinese chap on my last visit to China about foods and comparing the range of foods earthen here compared to there. He said a really funny thing that is really true.
“Westerners see am animal and think his cute it is, Chinese see the same animal and think, how will I cook that?”
It’s really true, the range of foods available was truly staggering.

I don’t know if it was pollution or over fishing that is responsible in this case, but it’s not like we haven’t overfished fish to extinction here either, or polluted rivers so badly that the fish have disappeared.
Our own rivers are terribly low in fish stocks from pollution from human waste, industrial process, energy production and farming runoff’s.

China is a third world country for the vast majority of its citizens, what’s our excuse ?

Church on Tuesday

10000maniacs wrote: »

Darn, was just going to Tesco to get some frozen paddlefish.
But seriously, hundreds of species go extinct each year. Some more important to the habitat than paddlefish.

Which is still pretty sad TBH.

Hector Savage

10000maniacs wrote: »

Thanks.
We are all guilty.
Do you have anything plastic in your house?
The amount energy needed to create a 330 ML spring water plastic bottle is 3.4 megajoules.

I agree, it's terrible, I do have plastic in my house , it's impossible to get away from.


But ... I don't drive, cycle and walk everywhere, I buy **** all clothes - make them last and last and last - never use dryers (always hang out clothes), have had the same phone since 2015 ..... have a desktop PC that I upgrade by components - same keyboard, mouse, box etc since 2009....

So I think I've earned some carbon credit.


As for my father ted sarcastic reply - well this is AH, I woudn't do the same in an environmental/nature forum..

ILoveYourVibes

Hector Savage wrote: »

I agree, it's terrible, I do have plastic in my house , it's impossible to get away from.


But ... I don't drive, cycle and walk everywhere, I buy **** all clothes - make them last and last and last - never use dryers (always hang out clothes), have had the same phone since 2015 ..... have a desktop PC that I upgrade by components - same keyboard, mouse, box etc since 2009....

So I think I've earned some carbon credit.


As for my father ted sarcastic reply - well this is AH, I woudn't do the same in an environmental/nature forum..

You know what annoys me when they wrap stuff in plastic that is already inside ...wrapped in plastic. Sometimes three times over!

Hector Savage

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You know what annoys me when they wrap stuff in plastic that is already inside ...wrapped in plastic. Sometimes three times over!

I know, I never buy stuff like fruit needlessly wrapped.

PopePalpatine

10000maniacs wrote: »

Thanks.
We are all guilty.
Do you have anything plastic in your house?
The amount energy needed to create a 330 ML spring water plastic bottle is 3.4 megajoules.

To put that in perspective, that's a Bugatti Chiron running at full pelt (1.1MW) for just over 3 seconds.

And that's just to make that bottle, never mind fill it and ship it. :eek:

ILoveYourVibes

Hector Savage wrote: »

I know, I never buy stuff like fruit needlessly wrapped.

We sometimes do.

mookishboy

3.4 MJ is equal to 0.9444 kilowatt hours. so less than 1 unit on the electricity meter. where did 1.1MW come from ?

Ipso

Didn't one of their river dolphins go extinct recently?

PopePalpatine

mookishboy wrote: »

3.4 MJ is equal to 0.9444 kilowatt hours. so less than 1 unit on the electricity meter. where did 1.1MW come from ?

3.4MJ / 3s = 1.1333MW. I just thought in terms of gas-guzzling cars rather than electricity bills.

10000maniacs

mookishboy wrote: »

3.4 MJ is equal to 0.9444 kilowatt hours. so less than 1 unit on the electricity meter. where did 1.1MW come from ?

That's 50 twenty watt energy saving bulbs running for an hour.
But my condolences to the fish, and it's family at this sad time.