Speed van question

Don199 · 08-01-2020 12:16pm #1

This could be a stupid question but I’m just trying to settle an argument with a friend in work, are these vans there just to check you’re speed or can they be used to detect other road offences?

punisher5112 · 08-01-2020 12:17pm

Don199 wrote: »

This could be a stupid question but I’m just trying to settle an argument with a friend in work, are these vans there just to check you’re speed or can they be used to detect other road offences?

Speed....

Landr · 08-01-2020 12:28pm

Wearing of seat belts

Don199 · 08-01-2020 12:30pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Speed....

He said in England they can be used for other offences but it must be different here?

punisher5112 · 08-01-2020 12:45pm

Don199 wrote: »

He said in England they can be used for other offences but it must be different here?

Yes in the UK they can zoom in for all sorts of offences as the operator actually has input not like here as the gosafe are civilian.

The UK also use anpr and do for tax, insurance, mot etc...

Don199 · 08-01-2020 12:58pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Yes in the UK they can zoom in for all sorts of offences as the operator actually has input not like here as the gosafe are civilian.

The UK also use anpr and do for tax, insurance, mot etc...

so you’re saying legally in Ireland they can only do you for speed nothing else?

Don199 · 08-01-2020 1:49pm

Landr wrote: »

Wearing of seat belts

you sure?

veryangryman · 08-01-2020 1:55pm

Don199 wrote: »

you sure?

I fukcing hope thats the case. Even if it isn't i would like to spread this rumour. The amount of deaths i've heard of from people not wearing them (or sitting over them so that the warning bell doesn't go off on the car).

punisher5112 · 08-01-2020 2:14pm

Don199 wrote: »

so you’re saying legally in Ireland they can only do you for speed nothing else?

Yes for the go safe vans that is all the equipment is equipped to deal with.
Civilian people can't police the road as this would be nuts.

The Gardai did have approximately 10 white transits some have symbols on them and others not.... Saying this it's quite a long time since I've seen any but these would have a gaurd onboard.

The UK has been using a lot of different type equipment and do catch depending on the van dangerous drivers, crossing white lines, passing over hills etc etc....

They have a huge anpr set up over there and many of there police cars are equipped with these too.

They can even clock you coming towards them while they're moving.

Our vans you have to be extremely close to be caught...

punisher5112 · 08-01-2020 2:15pm

veryangryman wrote: »

I fukcing hope thats the case. Even if it isn't i would like to spread this rumour. The amount of deaths i've heard of from people not wearing them (or sitting over them so that the warning bell doesn't go off on the car).

Natural selection.... Darwin award.... Etc etc....

It's nowhere near as bad as it once was...

Effects · 10-01-2020 7:33pm

Don199 wrote: »

you sure?

And tax, they can zoom in and read your tax disc. That's that I always have my tax disc in upside down. I've never been done for having no tax so far.

punisher5112 · 10-01-2020 9:42pm

Effects wrote: »

And tax, they can zoom in and read your tax disc. That's that I always have my tax disc in upside down. I've never been done for having no tax so far.

What the f

Darc19 · 11-01-2020 8:24am

Effects wrote: »

And tax, they can zoom in and read your tax disc. That's that I always have my tax disc in upside down. I've never been done for having no tax so far.

LOL

Darc19 · 11-01-2020 8:27am

Not sure what offences they detect aside from speeding, but the civilian in the van is there to set it up and monitor the equipment.

The civilian has no role whatsoever in determining fines/offences

The entire file is sent to thurles and a garda determines the parameters for sending the fines

Isambard · 12-01-2020 10:09am

Effects wrote: »

And tax, they can zoom in and read your tax disc. That's that I always have my tax disc in upside down. I've never been done for having no tax so far.

dammit, if only they had a computer they could tap into that held the tax details, they could make a fortune , and save a lot of zooming and neck craning.

Hard to see how you could be done for no tax if you had a disc but displayed it upside down.

flazio · 12-01-2020 10:13am

So, if gosafe send the photo of a speeding car to the Gardaí, and the driver can clearly be seen holding a mobile phone to their ear. The Gardaí can't go after the phone offence?

Don199 · 15-01-2020 10:39am

flazio wrote: »

So, if gosafe send the photo of a speeding car to the Gardaí, and the driver can clearly be seen holding a mobile phone to their ear. The Gardaí can't go after the phone offence?

Apparently not! I thought they only snap the reg plate anyway no?

L1011 · 15-01-2020 10:43am

Don199 wrote: »

Apparently not! I thought they only snap the reg plate anyway no?

Photo is taken of the entire vehicle in case of a query about who was driving

Don199 · 15-01-2020 10:45am

L1011 wrote: »

Photo is taken of the entire vehicle in case of a query about who was driving

How can they tell who’s driving by the back of a car? Thought it was up to owner of car to nominate whoever was driving

punisher5112 · 15-01-2020 11:50am

Don199 wrote: »

How can they tell who’s driving by the back of a car? Thought it was up to owner of car to nominate whoever was driving

Takes photo of the front. Mostly

L1011 · 15-01-2020 1:01pm

Don199 wrote: »

How can they tell who’s driving by the back of a car? Thought it was up to owner of car to nominate whoever was driving

Photo is of the front for this reason.

jammiedodgers · 15-01-2020 1:09pm

Is there any leeway with the speedvans or is it at the Garda's discretion when sent on to them? ie. 52 in a 50 zone?

Don199 · 15-01-2020 2:12pm

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Is there any leeway with the speedvans or is it at the Garda's discretion when sent on to them? ie. 52 in a 50 zone?

Allowed a small bit over as far as I know

veryangryman · 15-01-2020 2:57pm

Don199 wrote: »

Allowed a small bit over as far as I know

Never heard of anyone charged with a fine for being < 10% over

This is all anecdotal of course. Theoretically the limits the limit. However i guess someone borderline could successfully appeal alot given the small margin for error on these machines

Don199 · 15-01-2020 3:19pm

veryangryman wrote: »

Never heard of anyone charged with a fine for being < 10% over

This is all anecdotal of course. Theoretically the limits the limit. However i guess someone borderline could successfully appeal alot given the small margin for error on these machines

You’d have to be doing 56 km in a 50 zone I’d say before you get a ticket based on what I’ve heard

Don199 · 15-01-2020 8:19pm

Anyone with experience ever got a ticket for anything less than 10% over? Also I heard the ticket process has been sped up, a friend in work received one just 4 days after being caught, is it all automated now?

Darc19 · 15-01-2020 9:35pm

Don199 wrote: »

Anyone with experience ever got a ticket for anything less than 10% over? Also I heard the ticket process has been sped up, a friend in work received one just 4 days after being caught, is it all automated now?

A colleague got one for 105 in 100.

The garda checking the photo file must have been in foul mood that day.

Didn't believe it til I saw it

Don199 · 16-01-2020 9:51am

Darc19 wrote: »

A colleague got one for 105 in 100.

The garda checking the photo file must have been in foul mood that day.

Didn't believe it til I saw it

hard to believe

WishUWereHere · 18-01-2020 7:06pm

A friend of mine is a Garda & he told me the gatso’s cameras can cover 5 lanes and they can trap a vehicle on the other side of a dual carriageway - ala the old Naas to Newbridge D way where there used to be gatsos almost permanently trapping on.

Wishbone Ash · 19-01-2020 10:41am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

... and they can trap a vehicle on the other side of a dual carriageway - ala the old Naas to Newbridge D way where there used to be gatsos almost permanently trapping on.

Do they throw out a huge net to trap these vehicles?

WishUWereHere · 19-01-2020 12:20pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Do they throw out a huge net to trap these vehicles?

Look at a gatso next time you pass one, they have cams mounted on the sides of the vans.

punisher5112 · 19-01-2020 2:53pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Look at a gatso next time you pass one, they have cams mounted on the sides of the vans.

That's for to catch people that were damaging the vans.

Darc19 · 19-01-2020 3:49pm

Only the camera at the back is used for recording of vehicles.

Yes it can cover up to four or five lanes and the usual distance of detection is up to 100m from the van but it can detect further away too.

For it to detect across a dual carriageway there would need to be no median and the median would need to be quite narrow. I know there's no barrier on the Newbridge road, but it may be just too wide for both directions to be detected - however I'd err on the cautious side just in case.

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