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People who hate movies because they are popular

  • 03-01-2020 3:31pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    The sort of people who hate a particular movie just to be different.
    Like the losers who loved that band before they "sold out".

    Thoughts?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ El Duda


    There's a lot of this sort of thing on #FilmTwitter

    People on there seem to all share the same contrary opinions, like how everyone always seems to bang on about how great La La Land is. I've seen pile ons against anyone who dares to tweet negatively about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭ rtron


    I think what is worse is people hating a Movie because everyone else hates it or it gets bad reviews. Then people who say they enjoyed it, get piled on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    El Duda wrote: »
    There's a lot of this sort of thing on #FilmTwitter

    People on there seem to all share the same contrary opinions, like how everyone always seems to bang on about how great La La Land is. I've seen pile ons against anyone who dares to tweet negatively about it.
    I meant more the type of people who wont even bother to go and see a movie as its popular.

    I wouldn't watch a superhero movie as its not my kind of thing rather than the fact its popular.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭ RocketRaccoon


    Snobs, they're in every walk of life unfortunately.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    I'm confused, who the hell are we even talking about here? Cos I've never read a single critic or passionate amateur who has expressed an explicit opinion along the lines of "I hate X because it's popular". And if this is aimed at Twitter, well then more fool you for wading into that ocean & complaining it's full of sharks.

    If an contrary opinion can be expressed in an interesting or thoughtful, expansive way then that's perfectly valid.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭ mikhail


    Sometimes, I am turned off a movie by unrelenting marketing and gushing fans. Or by unrelenting marketing and furious fans. I generally get around to them later, when the hype has moved on and I can enjoy or hate it on its own terms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭ Ipso


    I preferred your earlier threads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    I mean the sort who wont watch Forrest Gump because its popular.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    redmgar wrote: »
    I mean the sort who wont watch Forrest Gump because its popular.

    I've never met this kind of person, so either I'm sheltered or you're reading the wrong parts of the internet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,944 ✭✭✭✭ Del2005


    Just because a film is popular doesn't make it good and even the most popular films are only seen by a tiny minority of people.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,455 ✭✭✭✭ Basq


    I wouldn't consider myself a film snob.. but I will admit I am often liable to be disappointed by a movie when I hear nothing but gushing reviews!

    e.g Joker - performance aside by Joaquin Phoenix, I found it incredibly patchy with a good 30 minutes in the middle where I was just downright bored!

    I wouldn't say I hated it.. but I will say I don't think it was worthy of the acclaim pushed onto it.

    Ideally I'd love to go into a movie cold - without heeding reviews from critics / the general public / social media - but it's nigh on impossible nowadays!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭ Emmalyn Tart Tannery


    Basq wrote: »
    I wouldn't consider myself a film snob.. but I will admit I am often liable to be disappointed by a movie when I hear nothing but gushing reviews!

    e.g Joker - performance aside by Joaquin Phoenix, I found it incredibly patchy with a good 30 minutes in the middle where I was just downright bored!

    I wouldn't say I hated it.. but I will say I don't think it was worthy of the acclaim pushed onto it.

    Ideally I'd love to go into a movie cold - without heeding reviews from critics / the general public / social media - but it's nigh on impossible nowadays!
    Yeah I was going to make the same point - but Joker was excellent imo.

    For me an example of the same thing would be the last two Avengers movies. I was expecting to experience some sort of awe or thrills. I did not so I was disappointed. If I approached them hoping to be mildly entertained they would have been fine.

    It's also more worthy of remark if your opinion contrasts with the consensus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭ Emmalyn Tart Tannery


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,658 CMod ✭✭✭✭ spurious


    Much worse are the ones who don't like a movie and they haven't even seen it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Gwanoman


    I absolutely hated the last jedi from the moment I saw it..

    I wouldn't even talk to my girlfriend walking out of the cinema...

    Critics like it.. fans generally don't..

    Sorry if it is a bit off topic


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    I don't even know what the topic is meant to be.

    "Some people don't like popular movies", but it might be because they're famous. It's unclear who we're meant to be annoyed at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭ S.M.B.


    I'll hold my hands up and say that my taste, in both movies, TV and music, over the years has developed in a way where I get a lot of pleasure from moments, tropes, flourishes, choices etc that are often at odds with what would be normally considered optimal for mass popularity.

    That's very different to "I don't like popular movies" though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    redmgar wrote: »
    I mean the sort who wont watch Forrest Gump because its popular.
    I wouldn't watch Forrest Gump in its entirety because I think it's far too long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,306 ✭✭✭✭ lawred2


    redmgar wrote: »
    I mean the sort who wont watch Forrest Gump because its popular.

    Do they exist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,975 ✭✭✭✭ _Brian


    redmgar wrote: »
    The sort of people who hate a particular movie just to be different.
    Like the losers who loved that band before they "sold out".

    Thoughts?

    Maybe their interests are just outside the norm.

    I know much of what I dislike on tv would be considered “essential” watching but I hate it. Reality tv shows, Mrs Brown, mcGreggor fights, anything celeb based, that’s all trash entertainment to me, not because others like it, but because I hate it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    spurious wrote: »
    Much worse are the ones who don't like a movie and they haven't even seen it.
    Yep that's the ones I'm talking about


  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I don't even know what the topic is meant to be.

    "Some people don't like popular movies", but it might be because they're famous. It's unclear who we're meant to be annoyed at.

    Its OK not to know things, and you don't need to be annoyed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    I'm not saying popularity is a sign of quality, often its not.
    But pre-judge a movie because its popular is the issue.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    redmgar wrote: »
    Its OK not to know things, and you don't need to be annoyed.

    You started the thread dude, I'm just confused who, or what outlet, you're venting about that you feel you can claim they're doing it "just to be different". Not exactly a concept easily pinned down.

    If you just mean people who avoid movies because of hype, then as another poster already mentioned there's nothing wrong with that, as inevitably hype can cause disappointment. Nor anything wrong with possessing a contrary opinion to a popular film if it's genuinely held and expressed authentically.

    Plenty of popular films I've not liked, but not because they're popular, because I just didn't like them (and am always happen to explain in a thread / chat).


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭ Unearthly


    Whenever a film is popular it will attract a large audience with word of mouth. It would be impossible for everyone to all like the same film.

    Some people probably go over board with the disappointment if it doesn't meet their own expectation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭ redmgar


    Maybe I am not explaining it properly.
    Have you seen the movie This is the end?
    There is a scene were Craig Robinson says "I'll bet you hate movies that are universally loved"

    Its more of a movie hipster thing, You dislike commercial movies just to be different.
    Again popularity is not a sign of quality, but some people would be too much of a snob to like a movie as its successful.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    redmgar wrote: »
    Maybe I am not explaining it properly.
    Have you seen the movie This is the end?
    There is a scene were Craig Robinson says "I'll bet you hate movies that are universally loved"

    Its more of a movie hipster thing, You dislike commercial movies just to be different.
    Again popularity is not a sign of quality, but some people would be too much of a snob to like a movie as its successful.

    I understand you completely, I just don't believe the people you are talking about genuinely exist :) nor exist outside of Twitter, which as mentioned, is a clogged drain of cognitive sludge. Some folks are just born contrarians, but as the saying goes, there's nowt so queer as folk. Maybe you'd get some outlets that'd spin intentionally extreme opinions for clickbait purposes, but that's a cynical motivation, not a "hipster" one.

    Disliking commercial movies (or rather, mainstream Hollywood which I presume you mean, as movies are commercial entities) is reductionist but it's not without some justification. I'm finding myself jaded by the Hollywood system and so ... yeah, would start to back off from overly hyped, marketed films. Then equally, I get sucked into a hype spiral and experience disappoint so 🤷 And certainly coming to a movie after near breathless, universal praise is always setting things up for disappointment.

    Except for Paddington 2 of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭ Acosta


    I don't think this really applies to movies, especially nowadays. The cool art house underground stuff is nearly all on TV now anyway.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,515 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sad Professor


    Acosta wrote: »
    I don't think this really applies to movies, especially nowadays. The cool art house underground stuff is nearly all on TV now anyway.

    Can you give an example?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,210 CMod ✭✭✭✭ johnny_ultimate


    Acosta wrote: »
    I don't think this really applies to movies, especially nowadays. The cool art house underground stuff is nearly all on TV now anyway.

    Nah, this isn’t true. Lots and lots of great arthouse film from around the world still being released.

    TV, largely down to its innately commercial nature, is actually quite unfriendly for independent, experimental and arthouse type storytelling - whereas there are a lot of financing models in place for ‘non-commercial’ cinema. Which is not to say there isn’t great TV being made in a lot of different countries - just the ‘independent’ TV scene is small and low-profile compared to the systems long in place to fund, release and exhibit arthouse film.


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