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Galaxy s10 wont do samsung pay BOI

  • 03-01-2020 2:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭


    Why wont samsung pay accept my bank of ireland card for samsung pay??
    Seems to be an issue online too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    sugarman wrote: »
    BOI isn't supported. As it isn't with Google or Apple Pay either.

    Why not though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    BoI dragged kicking and screaming in to the 21st century - Windows 98 doesn't cut it anymorwe

    https://www.independent.ie/business/bank-of-ireland-signals-2020-delay-for-apple-pay-38383580.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    fritzelly wrote: »
    BoI dragged kicking and screaming in to the 21st century - Windows 98 doesn't cut it anymorwe

    https://www.independent.ie/business/bank-of-ireland-signals-2020-delay-for-apple-pay-38383580.html

    Ffs so basically top of the range phone can't pay with it like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Ffs so basically top of the range phone can't pay with it like

    Most Irish banks were using ancient systems til the past few years - remember going into UB just a few years ago and seeing CRT monitors
    Have an N26 account - Google/Apple Pay, restrict card usage based on overseas payments, atm, online etc - about the only thing you can do with Irish banks is lock the card if lost/stolen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Why not though

    After decades of underfunding and bad management of their IT, Bank of Ireland went for the nuclear option and outsourced everything. As a result, for the past decade, you now have the blind leading the blind.

    They started a major programme in 2016 to upgrade their IT systems. It was originally supposed to cost 500 million, be delivered via agile (think "people who know what they are doing, working together as a team, to deliver new functionality every few weeks"). But because nobody in BOI knows what they are doing, they decided to upgrade to a system from the 90's that they bought in and have spent the last few years trying to hack it to make it work for them and do the very opposite to the agile approach. To date, while the scope has been drastically reduced, nothing has yet to be delivered and the overall spend will probably be closer to 2 billion. If anything does eventually get delivered before they abandon this monster, it will be so ancient and ****e, any intelligent person would immediately start a major programme to replace it!

    In terms of projects, it is easily the biggest failure of an IT project in ireland, and could easily be one of the biggest IT disasters in the world. It would make a very interesting book on how not to deliver IT change.

    In short, if you are expecting a modern bank, you really came to the wrong place when you joined BOI. By far the worst bank in Ireland for tech, has been for a very long time and will likely be until the bank collapses.

    On a brighter side, it is very easy to change banks, and likely a lot cheaper for you as well!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Unless I’m mistaken, Samsung pay isn’t supported by any banks in Ireland. I have a gear s3 watch and can’t link any cards via pay to use it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    Unless I’m mistaken, Samsung pay isn’t supported by any banks in Ireland. I have a gear s3 watch and can’t link any cards via pay to use it.

    Yeah and no sign of it coming any time soon. Was supposed to launch in UK last year and would follow shortly here but no go.
    I have it on good info from one of the banks that Samsung pay is supposed to be a shambles and hence why it hasn't rolled out in UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    sugarman wrote: »
    BOI isn't supported. As it isn't with Google or Apple Pay either.

    GooglePay works for me with a BoI account.


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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    GooglePay works for me with a BoI account.

    You should let Google know, even they aren't aware that they support BOI

    https://support.google.com/pay/answer/7352140?hl=en

    If you bank with BOI and want to use Google pay, your best option is to change banks, or to transfer funds to something like Revolut and use Google pay with your Revolut card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    GooglePay works for me with a BoI account.

    No offence but I really don't see how, they haven't launched it and get loads of flack from customers this past 2 years over it. Few threads over in talk to BOI that show the extent of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Ffs so basically top of the range phone can't pay with it like

    Nope, but that's nothing whatsoever to do with your phone.
    It's solely the responsibility of BoI to ensure their system compatibility and to license the requisite technology to allow it.

    BoI have consistently either failed to adopt new tech, or been so far behind the curve in its adoption that any of their account holders who were looking to adopt it, left.

    If you want Samsung Pay, Google pay or a decent banking app BoI are not where you're gonna find it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    banie01 wrote: »
    or a decent banking app BoI are not where you're gonna find it.

    The banking app isn't bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭sentient_6


    Thread is hilarious. Only AIB, KBC and Ulster support Google pay in Ireland. Nothing to do with your phone being top of the range or otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman


    dotsman wrote: »
    After decades of underfunding and bad management of their IT, Bank of Ireland went for the nuclear option and outsourced everything. As a result, for the past decade, you now have the blind leading the blind.

    They started a major programme in 2016 to upgrade their IT systems. It was originally supposed to cost 500 million, be delivered via agile (think "people who know what they are doing, working together as a team, to deliver new functionality every few weeks"). But because nobody in BOI knows what they are doing, they decided to upgrade to a system from the 90's that they bought in and have spent the last few years trying to hack it to make it work for them and do the very opposite to the agile approach. To date, while the scope has been drastically reduced, nothing has yet to be delivered and the overall spend will probably be closer to 2 billion. If anything does eventually get delivered before they abandon this monster, it will be so ancient and ****e, any intelligent person would immediately start a major programme to replace it!

    In terms of projects, it is easily the biggest failure of an IT project in ireland, and could easily be one of the biggest IT disasters in the world. It would make a very interesting book on how not to deliver IT change.

    In short, if you are expecting a modern bank, you really came to the wrong place when you joined BOI. By far the worst bank in Ireland for tech, has been for a very long time and will likely be until the bank collapses.

    On a brighter side, it is very easy to change banks, and likely a lot cheaper for you as well!

    Who did they outsource it to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    quarryman wrote: »
    Who did they outsource it to?

    Same guys that did the RTE player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    quarryman wrote: »
    Who did they outsource it to?

    BOI's main historic outsourcing partner is Accenture.

    But these days, they pretty much have everyone in, Accenture, Deloitte, Capgemini Financial Services, Cognizant, IBM, Version One + a lot smaller ones. Each performing as $hite as the other.

    AIB are with a combo of Accenture, Wipro and Infosys as their main "partners" (although I know they were talking about kicking Wipro out, and Infosys were on their last warning), but haven't really been keeping track in the past year.


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