Should I move to security job from my current job?

Biodegradable

I currently work in a deli and I'm considering moving to a security role. I've basically been told that I have the job. The area manager is telling me that he just wants to do a few trial days to see if I like the job, more so than to see how well I fit.

For my first trail day (yesterday) I was left in charge of a store. I'm getting paid for this trial and it's €11:65/hr as opposed to minimum wage, where I'm at. But the thing I don't like about the security is that it involves a lot of standing. I mean I've worked jobs where I've been on my feet all day, but this is different. It just involves walking from one entrance of the store to the other... and to spice things up a bit, I sometimes try just standing near one of the entrances! It was fine for the first 6 hours, but the final two hours were a killer!

On the other hand, in the deli the shifts I get are quite inconsistent. Sometimes I start at 3 pm, and sometimes I start at 6 am! Sometimes I'm on weekends, sometimes I'm not. The work-tops are too low for me and are killing my upper back from all the stooping. I feel like it's affecting my posture long term. If I'm to move to security I might want to get some shoes with a softer sole. The shoes I had on did have a hard sole, but after all the standing I really felt it in my hips towards the end of the day.

By the time I got home last night one of my hips felt more sore than the other, and I had to walk with a limp to avoid the discomfort in that hip. If I could've done something else for just 5 % of my time, it would have been enough to made the difference. I was okay again the next morning but I don't know if I could manage all the standing with such a job. Are there any tricks you can use while standing in order to take weight off the hips? Or are there ways that you can lean without being noticed?

C3PO

Maybe you could pass the time by dreaming up schemes as to how you could sue your previous employers or landlords? :rolleyes:

John Hutton

Supportive, proper shoes and walking more will massively help OP.

Also, learning how to stand properly (bear with me) will help. I.e proper posture not taking all weight on one leg etc

DonnieCorko

I did security for a while and absolutely hated it. Boring out and my feet were killing me at the end of the day. If you could stick it out and maybe get night shifts somewhere (building site for eg) you could easily upskill while at work. Learn to code or figure out life plan etc.

Biodegradable

C3PO wrote: »

Maybe you could pass the time by dreaming up schemes as to how you could sue your previous employers or landlords? :rolleyes:

A low blow!

Biodegradable

DonnieCorko wrote: »

I did security for a while and absolutely hated it. Boring out and my feet were killing me at the end of the day. If you could stick it out and maybe get night shifts somewhere (building site for eg) you could easily upskill while at work. Learn to code or figure out life plan etc.

Why would night shifts be better?

heffo500

Biodegradable wrote: »

Why would night shifts be better?

A lot of night shifts in security mean monitoring CCTV in a locked down building which gives plenty of scope to do other things such as studying.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Biodegradable wrote: »

Why would night shifts be better?

They wouldn’t. Might be well meaning, but in my opinion, it’s bad advice. Night shifts wreck your health, I’ve done enough of them. Never again.

The best way of dealing with it is comfortable shoes, and walking around. Is there no opportunity to sit down for a bit, watch monitors etc?

DonnieCorko

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

They wouldn’t. Might be well meaning, but in my opinion, it’s bad advice. Night shifts wreck your health, I’ve done enough of them. Never again.

The best way of dealing with it is comfortable shoes, and walking around. Is there no opportunity to sit down for a bit, watch monitors etc?

Night shifts defo arent good for your health but IMO its worth the temporary suffering to gain a skill while also being paid. Now, this would be dependent on OP wanting to upskill in an area that could be done on your own time.

Biodegradable

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

The best way of dealing with it is comfortable shoes, and walking around. Is there no opportunity to sit down for a bit, watch monitors etc?

There is in anyone store the company provides for, but the area manager told me that he wants to get me used to that particular store because it's the hardest!

OMM 0000

I think your body will adapt to standing all day.

C3PO

C3PO wrote: »

Maybe you could pass the time by dreaming up schemes as to how you could sue your previous employers or landlords? :rolleyes:

Previous? OP sounds like he's lining up his future employer.

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I think your body will adapt to standing all day.

... with Varicose Veins.

scudzilla

OP, You're obviously working in Retail Security, IMO one of the most difficult areas in the industry, it is probably one of the only security positions where you have to stand for a majority, if not all, of your shift.

Commercial Security is a TOTALLY different ball game, a lot of the time will be spent at a desk, monitoring cctv/alarms, issuing badges, welcoming visitors with the occasional patrol.
Night shifts are a lot quieter and will entail a few more patrols due to not many/no other staff on site

I've been in the industry for 20+yrs and am at a pretty decent level now, if you wanna chat about which security you'd prefer just drop me a pm, could also hook you up with said position (well, guaranteed interview and a good word) if you'd want that.

There are some poor security firms out there and some excellent ones, it's a small industry as in the amount of companies so most get to know what companies to avoid.

Just thinking, to do retail security (dealing with the public), do you not need a PSA licence?!?

scudzilla

Deleted User wrote: »

Just thinking, to do retail security (dealing with the public), do you not need a PSA licence?!?

yes, you need a PSA license for ALL types of security, any firm who sticks a security officer onto a site, especially retail, is opening a huge can of worms for themselves should anything go wrong (false arrests etc in retail)

scudzilla

scudzilla wrote: »

yes, you need a PSA license for ALL types of security, any firm who sticks a security officer onto a site, especially retail, is opening a huge can of worms for themselves should anything go wrong (false arrests etc in retail)

Just confirms suspicions of OP's posts. :rolleyes:

scudzilla

Deleted User wrote: »

Just confirms suspicions of OP's posts. :rolleyes:

Hmmmm, just re-read the OP and it seems that this security company have given him a few days trial to see if he likes it, so probably doesn't have a PSA License.

If he makes a false arrest, which is highly likely with inexperience, and if it goes to court the security company will be in deep shit for using an unregistered officer, pretty sure the OP will be to for working unlicensed

the whole year inn

scudzilla wrote: »

Hmmmm, just re-read the OP and it seems that this security company have given him a few days trial to see if he likes it, so probably doesn't have a PSA License.

If he makes a false arrest, which is highly likely with inexperience, and if it goes to court the security company will be in deep shit for using an unregistered officer, pretty sure the OP will be to for working unlicensed

False arrest , they will be none of that even when he has the license . Hes will be there more of a deterrent, he wont be able to touch anyone.

scudzilla

the whole year inn wrote: »

False arrest , they will be none of that even when he has the license . Hes will be there more of a deterrent, he wont be able to touch anyone.

Ok then :rolleyes::rolleyes:

the whole year inn

scudzilla wrote: »

Ok then :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hes not aloud to touch anyone with out there consent . If they see someone stealing they have to ask them to the security room and call the cops they will make the arrest. He is not aloud to search anyone bag , he is just a deterrent.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

scudzilla wrote: »

yes, you need a PSA license for ALL types of security, any firm who sticks a security officer onto a site, especially retail, is opening a huge can of worms for themselves should anything go wrong (false arrests etc in retail)

Security guards have powers of arrest?

scudzilla

the whole year inn wrote: »

Hes not aloud to touch anyone with out there consent . If they see someone stealing they have to ask them to the security room and call the cops they will make the arrest. He is not aloud to search anyone bag , he is just a deterrent.

yet security officers do it a lot, hence why they call it a false arrest, they've detained someone on suspicion of shoplifting. More money to be made by scumbags in 1 false arrest than shoplifting

scudzilla

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

Security guards have powers of arrest?

It's not an arrest as such, it's called that though, if you detain someone against there will on suspicion of shoplifting.

GalwayGrrrrrl

To help with the sore legs while standing buy some knee high compression socks - sold as flight socks in Boots. They will help with circulation while you are standing for long periods.

Biodegradable

scudzilla wrote: »

Hmmmm, just re-read the OP and it seems that this security company have given him a few days trial to see if he likes it, so probably doesn't have a PSA License.

If he makes a false arrest, which is highly likely with inexperience, and if it goes to court the security company will be in deep shit for using an unregistered officer, pretty sure the OP will be to for working unlicensed

I have a license.

McCrack

scudzilla wrote: »

It's not an arrest as such, it's called that though, if you detain someone against there will on suspicion of shoplifting.

It would be an arrest

Any person (which obviously includes a security person) can make an arrest under section 4 of the criminal law act 1997 for an arrestable offence and hand them over to the Gardai as soon as practicable

the whole year inn

McCrack wrote: »

It would be an arrest

Any person (which obviously includes a security person) can make an arrest under section 4 of the criminal law act 1997 for an arrestable offence and hand them over to the Gardai as soon as practicable

It's an arrest in the way you have to ask the person to follow you to the security room while you wait for the guards to come .
Security guard wont be jumping or man handling anyone and dragging them to the security room.

McCrack

the whole year inn wrote: »

It's an arrest in the way you have to ask the person to follow you to the security room while you wait for the guards to come .
Security guard wont be jumping or man handling anyone and dragging them to the security room.

Any person is entitled to use reasonable force to make an arrest under section 4

iamtony

Starting any new job takes a lot of energy and using different muscles. You'll be used to standing in a few weeks. Anytime I start a new job I end up sick from getting run down it's normal.

the whole year inn

McCrack wrote: »

Any person is entitled to use reasonable force to make an arrest under section 4

The security guard wont be , I done the PSA training and only on private property can you remove /detain people..
If your chasing someone for stealing a pair of Jean's and start using section 4 your going to get in trouble fast .

He best not to touch anyone , monitor what's going on and give over info when asked .