Bad driving venting thread

amadangomor

None of us are perfect on the road but the standards of driving seems to have dropped in recent years. Please post your rants here. Hopefully will keep everyone calm to have an outlet for the frustration of regularly witnessing ****ehawks driving out there.

I'll start - On the main road people pulling out at junctions and going to the other side causing you to slow down, fair enough it happens- but instead of the person realising their mistake and getting across at near enough a right angle they proceed to come up my side of the road a bit totally closing down the space.

Another one is coming up to a junction myself and people turning in cut the angle on to my side of the road causing me to slow/stop to avoid a collision. So common that probably more drivers do this than not.

NSAman

Slow driving, dangerous for everyone is endemic.

Coming back from the west today, the amount of people doing 65-70 in 100kph roads holding up lines of traffic is unreal.

Outside Limerick two way main road and someone doing 60.... people trying to over take were being put in danger due to slow driving, yet this is never tackled by police.

tayto lover

Far too many very poor drivers still driving away on as many as their 10th Provisional Licence.

Bruthal

A lot of bad drivers out there are just plain thick. Not just at driving, likely anything they attempt.

Canyon86

-Drivers Driving too slow

-Drivers who leave it too late to merge and try and cut in at the last minute
This happens a lot on the cork to limerick road
Drivers only overtaking with 100 meters left on the temporary overtaking lane

-people on their phones , doing their make up at traffic lights etc crazy crazy carry on

-drivers overtaking on dangerous bends, a regular occurrence

Canyon86

NSAman wrote: »

Slow driving, dangerous for everyone is endemic.

Coming back from the west today, the amount of people doing 65-70 in 100kph roads holding up lines of traffic is unreal.

Outside Limerick two way main road and someone doing 60.... people trying to over take were being put in danger due to slow driving, yet this is never tackled by police.

Crazy carry on, the roads outside limerick are notorious for slow driving and dangerous overtaking

amadangomor

Canyon86 wrote: »

-Drivers Driving too slow

-Drivers who leave it too late to merge and try and cut in at the last minute
This happens a lot on the cork to limerick road
Drivers only overtaking with 100 meters left on the temporary overtaking lane

-people on their phones , doing their make up at traffic lights etc crazy crazy carry on

-drivers overtaking on dangerous bends, a regular occurrence

Was driving back home from the parents yesterday and came across this twice - First one was driving a little bit slow but would break far too hard on bends, also was crossing the white line a lot. Possibly drunk but who knows, definitely not a competent driver.

The next one close to home and someone doing about 40 in an 80 road. I was averaging about 70 as it is a bit bendy but 40 is dangerously slow. As soon as I approached they moved over but I didn't take them up on the overtake as a bend and a level crossing coming up. They pulled over after that and let me by. Probably shouldn't be on the road with such low levels of confidence.

Before that had an aul lad go straight on to a roundabout into my path without looking to his right. I braked and he went on oblivious. Definitely shouldn't be on the road.

So one hours journey on N and R roads have three people who are totally incompetent. Was similar on trip there with at least two incidents of having to brake to avoid a crash due to other peoples incompetence.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

im guessing we are talking the n69 in limerick ,
its a c*nt of a road

but the fact is , many of these slow ones are old folks ,
and id rather they drove slow and able , than too fast and out of control

but

you get some oldies who hate being overtaken and will speed up or try to block
i personanly think overtake blockers or speeduppers should be shot at the roadside.

let people past- you have no idea if they are trying to get to a doc , or a vet or a hospital

always beware of
micras
yaris
barge sized mercs
crappy looking avensis
little white vans
zafiras
polos
golfs

these are 100% going to be slow or chaotic

NSAman

DaDumTish wrote: »

im guessing we are talking the n69 in limerick ,
its a c*nt of a road

but the fact is , many of these slow ones are old folks ,
and id rather they drove slow and able , than too fast and out of control

but

you get some oldies who hate being overtaken and will speed up or try to block
i personanly think overtake blockers or speeduppers should be shot at the roadside.

let people past- you have no idea if they are trying to get to a doc , or a vet or a hospital

always beware of
micras
yaris
barge sized mercs
crappy looking avensis
little white vans
zafiras
polos
golfs

these are 100% going to be slow or chaotic

No it wasn’t the N69 it was the N21. Seriously slow driving and I am not a fast driver, but this was taking the p1ss. Coming into Newcastlewest I kid you not..down the large hill someone was doing 50 in a 100kph zone, in the 60 they were doing 70 and then 50 they did 60 and then slammed on the brakes to pull into a garage.... 30 cars behind them??? Madness.

tea and coffee

People who have zero awareness that their DRL leave them with no rear lights on.

The running of red lights is becoming chronic. Driving through blatantly red lights when the pedestrian or other junction has turned green and still gunning for it.

Epidemic proportions in Dublin at the moment.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

n21 , ah yes, and me old fav the n24 between waterford and tipp ,
jesus what a road

Canyon86

Driving from cork to killarney earlier and seen two ridiculous overtakes at bends

The car coming opposite was in the hard shoulder I was sure they d be a smash

X111111111111

For me I always keep an eye on Audi drivers. Hands down the most lethal drivers on the road.

Dubl07

Drivers of Volvos, Mercs, Audis are the worst for selfishness and ignorance.

PukkaStukka

M1 between airport and Junction 4 is a three lane motorway. As sure as night follows day, you will always get someone blundering along in the middle lane, with nothing on their left, and doing well below the speed limit. This without doubt is premeditated stupidity at its finest

Comhrá

Dubl07 wrote: »

Drivers of Volvos, Mercs, Audis are the worst for selfishness and ignorance.

What brands do you reckon the most considerate enlightened motorists drive?

jellybear

tea and coffee wrote: »

The running of red lights is becoming chronic. Driving through blatantly red lights when the pedestrian or other junction has turned green and still gunning for it.

Epidemic proportions in Dublin at the moment.

This x 100! It's unbelievably bad lately!

Lily_Aldrin7

I don’t know if that’s considered bad driving and it’s probably not that big of a deal but I get very irritated when I’m driving on the outer Ring Road in Waterford and cars going straight go into the right lane instead of the left just because the line might be a little shorter. There are arrows showing left or straight in the left lane and right in the right lane. I was convinced this is not right but then I saw a Guarda car doing the same so I’m not so sure

Better Than Christ

NSAman wrote: »

Slow driving, dangerous for everyone is endemic.

Coming back from the west today, the amount of people doing 65-70 in 100kph roads holding up lines of traffic is unreal.

Outside Limerick two way main road and someone doing 60.... people trying to over take were being put in danger due to slow driving, yet this is never tackled by police.

Nope. People trying to overtake were putting themselves (not to mention others) in danger due to their impatience. If you can't get past someone who's not driving the way you want to drive, it's your responsibility to hold back and be patient. Also, plan your journey better if you're in such a rush.

Jimmy74

Lily_Aldrin7 wrote: »

I don’t know if that’s considered bad driving and it’s probably not that big of a deal but I get very irritated when I’m driving on the outer Ring Road in Waterford and cars going straight go into the right lane instead of the left just because the line might be a little shorter. There are arrows showing left or straight in the left lane and right in the right lane. I was convinced this is not right but then I saw a Guarda car doing the same so I’m not so sure

Have a good look at the the
Road markings on the Waterford Ring Road, they've been updated & on the vast majority of those roundabouts you can now legally go straight ahead on the righthand lane & in fairness the vast majority of the time it helps alot in keeping the traffic flowing

Lily_Aldrin7

Jimmy74 wrote: »

Have a good look at the the
Road markings on the Waterford Ring Road, they've been updated & on the vast majority of those roundabouts you can now legally go straight ahead on the righthand lane & in fairness the vast majority of the time it helps alot in keeping the traffic flowing

You might be right! I’ll pay attention next time I drive there, I’m a new driver and I was even thinking to text my instructor to ask her 😀

****ers that won’t get in their lane for a turn or exit in time because it might cost them 10 seconds.

So many people not dimming lights on motorways now.

Middle lane dwellers that end up boxing you in to the left lane because they follow each other like sheep.

The vast majority of people with zero idea how merging onto a road works.

VW drivers, especially Touaregs and Golfs.

Jimmy74

Lily_Aldrin7 wrote: »

You might be right! I’ll pay attention next time I drive there, I’m a new driver and I was even thinking to text my instructor to ask her 😀

Depending on which way you look at it I spent over 3 months recently heading to the hospital at least 3 time a week for appointments & believe me once I realised I could use the righthand lane it saved a fair chunk of time, only the roundabout at the hospital & the one before Tescos this isn't legally allowed, obviously the markings at the Tesco's roundabout are differenent.

Best of luck with the rest of your driving career!!

Pythagorean

Drivers who brake constantly, and without any obvious reason, often when another vehicle is approaching. Erratic driving, where they slow down and then suddenly speed up, and slow down again, this usually indicates that they are paying more attention to their mobile phones than their driving. I have noticed too, a growing tendency not to bother with indicators, I was riding my motorcycle today, and a driver stopped suddenly to turn right ahead, without bothering to indicate, what a prat. Anybody driving something flash with blacked out windows, and/or young VW Golf drivers in a mad rush, they are the types who will cut you up.

Cantona's Collars

If you are turning right at a junction,try to keep right. Don't swing to the left as if you are driving an artic.

Special mention goes to the Audi driver who believed he had the right of way coming off the M11 near Oylegate yesterday and just gave us the look as he nearly took the front off our car having not even braked when deciding to enter the roundabout.

almostover

Canyon86 wrote: »

-Drivers Driving too slow

-Drivers who leave it too late to merge and try and cut in at the last minute
This happens a lot on the cork to limerick road
Drivers only overtaking with 100 meters left on the temporary overtaking lane

-people on their phones , doing their make up at traffic lights etc crazy crazy carry on

-drivers overtaking on dangerous bends, a regular occurrence

Saw a lad brushing his teeth in traffic in the Jack Lynch tunnel one morning!

FAMLEE

Drivers not indicating
Drivers who come to a dead stop approaching roundabouts for no reason
Drivers who drive 40/30/20kph below the speed limit - especially on main roads! Grrr
Drivers constantly braking/boosting/braking while behind others

Cantona's Collars

FAMLEE wrote: »

Drivers who drive 40/30/20kph below the speed limit - especially on main roads! Grrr
Drivers constantly braking/boosting/braking while behind others

And then drop anchors when they see a speed van despite already crawling along.

Absolute cretins not indicating when taking the first exit (left) off a roundabout forcing you to stop when you didn’t need to. They all need a firing squad.

Pythagorean

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Absolute cretins not indicating when taking the first exit (left) off a roundabout forcing you to stop when you didn’t need to. They all need a firing squad.

Another species of cretin are those who indicate right when proceeding straight through the roundabout, so prevalent that I distrust nearly all indicator use these days, particularly on roundabouts. :mad:

Larbre34

I find distrusting all indicators (and none) everywhere, everytime has served me well.

I've noticed a lot of not bothering to yield at left filters around Dublin recently, folk just staring straight ahead and risking it. I nearly got cleaned out of it last night on the Leopardstown Road, some old hag in a Citroen van breezed straight out of Central Park on the left filter as I was on top of it on a green light. Gave her the full hairdryer at the next lights, could've killed a cyclist or motorbiker.

tallaghtfornia

Since the recession finished I notice the standard of driving is gone worse.
I drive a lot up and down the country and some of the things I see are shocking.

Tailgating
Drivers using mobile phones.
Speeding
Audis/Land Rovers/SUVs and Northern regs cars behaving like they own the road.

I have a rule of thumb as I don't engage with idiots when I'm on the motorway on a long stretch of road.

If an Audi, Land Rover, Northern Reg or SUV is tailgating I pull in when its safe to let them pass my life is not worth one of these idoits killing me to save 5 minutes.

NSAman

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Nope. People trying to overtake were putting themselves (not to mention others) in danger due to their impatience. If you can't get past someone who's not driving the way you want to drive, it's your responsibility to hold back and be patient. Also, plan your journey better if you're in such a rush.

Ahhh, but that driver is holding up 30-40 other vehicles. Yes you have to be patient. You should always be a courteous driver, someone holding the road, who does 40kph under the speed limit is being inconsiderate and is a danger on the road.

In most other countries they would be charged with driving too slow. But this is Ireland, only speed kills!

1123heavy

Larbre34 wrote: »

I find distrusting all indicators (and none) everywhere, everytime has served me well.

This. I remember being told by my instructor a few years back to never ever use indicators as a signal for you to go onto a roundabout, because if that person doesn't turn where they indicated they would and you go onto it, any insurance claim/court ruling will rule that the other person had the right of way regardless.

I see it all the time but still wait until I can see they actually are going off before moving in.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

Tish top tip :

avoid the roads from 9.30 to 1030 am as all the old folk go out once the rush is over
you think you are being smart beating the rush , only to end up in a sea of zombie micras and yaris

wingnut

People driving at night who jam on the brakes when a car comes against them.

I live in the country and boils my blood people stop on the side of the road when there could be a farm gate or spot to pull off the road within 10 or 20 meters.

I've been saying for years failure to indicate should carry penalty points.

Dakota Dan

FAMLEE wrote: »

Drivers not indicating
Drivers who come to a dead stop approaching roundabouts for no reason
Drivers who drive 40/30/20kph below the speed limit - especially on main roads! Grrr
Drivers constantly braking/boosting/braking while behind others

Coming to a dead stop at a roundabout? Probably because there was traffic approaching from the right on the roundabout, perish the thought.

Bruthal

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Coming to a dead stop at a roundabout? Probably because there was traffic approaching from the right on the roundabout, perish the thought.

Lots of drivers come to complete stop with nothing coming. Or if they see a car approaching 100 meters on opposite side. Often see them sitting stopped when it's clearly safe to go.

73bc61lyohr0mu

Well I drive for a living all over the country. This morning I drove from home in Limerick to Dungannon in Tyrone. And my god I've seen some horrible stuff in my time. Mentioned before but some for me..
-Not dipping headlights on the motorway. I drive a van that's higher up than a car and people think a waist high concrete barrier is impenetrable to light.
-Sitting in the middle lane of a 3 lane motorway doing 80kmph.
-Driving well below the speed limit on standard roads and not pulling in to let cars pass even though there's a 5km tailback behind you.
-The cars with no lights on at night, low light or fog. Special mention to the dopes with drls that have zero rear lights.
-No indicatiors at roundabouts or anywhere for that matter.
-People who speed up when you go to overtake them.
-People who park in loading bays when you need to deliver 20 boxes in the city centre.

bren2001

Drivers in the left lane going right (3rd exit) on a roundabout. Happened to me twice in the last two days, they enter the roundabout and flick on the right indicator. Luckily I spotted it twice but it can be very hard to see. It'd be my fault as well if we crashed.

How these people avoid accidents baffles me...

65535

It always amazes me:

No indicator when changing lanes
However, when in that left turning lane they turn on the left indicator - they can only turn left !

Rodney Disgusting Backpacker

Rodney Disgusting Backpacker wrote: »

-People who speed up when you go to overtake them

The M6 is absolutely brutal for this.

Acquiescence

People who bunch up behind slow moving traffic and don't leave adequate room to overtake thus creating an unnecessary traffic jam and leading to dangerous passing manoeuvres.

It's not the lead car driving at whatever speed they feel appropriate that I take issue with; its the five idiots up their backside.

Bruthal

Rodney Disgusting Backpacker wrote: »

-Not dipping headlights on the motorway. I drive a van that's higher up than a car and people think a waist high concrete barrier is impenetrable to light.

The problem is more likely that they just don't think at all.
Another one with the dipped lights, the complete morons who put high beams back on just before they pass you oncoming.

CrankyHaus

Bruthal wrote: »

The problem is more likely that they just don't think at all.

Another one with the dipped lights, the complete morons who put high beams back on just before they pass you oncoming.

They'd learn quick enough when an oncoming truck puts it's high beams on them to cop them on.


I'll add:


People watching video behind the wheel. Is this the next big thing after blatant mobile use? Some SUV passed me the other day with a tablet mounted on his dash above the wheel playing video.


Motorcyclists playing chicken with you by coming at you on the wrong side of the road.

CrankyHaus

CrankyHaus wrote: »

They'd learn quick enough when an oncoming truck puts it's high beams on them to cop them on.


I'll add:


People watching video behind the wheel. Is this the next big thing after blatant mobile use? Some SUV passed me the other day with a tablet mounted on his dash above the wheel playing video.


Motorcyclists playing chicken with you by coming at you on the wrong side of the road.

The “your side is blocked so you wait” unwritten rule really has gone out the window in the past years.

FAMLEE

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Coming to a dead stop at a roundabout? Probably because there was traffic approaching from the right on the roundabout, perish the thought.

Should have clarified.. coming to a dead stop when there is NO traffic approaching from the right..

kirving

If it weren't for motorcyclists being vulnerable, I would advocate for motorway hatching, to have spike strips.

Anyone who crosses it except in an emergency should be banned from driving. Usually people who think their 2.0L diesel can get from 50-120 in 2 seconds flat.

Average speed cameras on motorways would clear up the vast majority of tailgaters who cruise at 180kph, but should also target anyone who does below 100kph (except if towing).

PukkaStukka

A possible solution: replace horns with machine guns and watch the immediate improvement in all standard of driving

micar

I know cyclist receive a lot of negativity.......but try bring a cyclist when motorits

Don't indicate when turning left
Turn right against you
Move lanes without looking or indicating
Parking in cycle lanes
Using cycle lanes as an under taking lane
Over taking and then turning left
Using bus lane as an undertaking lane
Over taking with a car coming in the opposite direction
Overtaking with a foot of space
Pulling out from the left
Overtaking then cutting across your path.
Inching past when you're at a red light getting ready to gun it.

Before anyone starts....I've front and back light flashing, helmet and bright red jacket with reflective section.

You cannot miss me.

BTW....I have a car which is taxed and insured.

I choose to cycle to work cos it takes 20-25 mins