Will be getting brighter each day from Sunday on

Spanish Eyes

We are on the up soon. The other side of darkness.

Lovely.

Thelonious Monk

Yes it's the 22nd this year, most people seem to think it's the 21st erry year

bmc58

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's the 22nd this year, most people seem to think it's the 21st erry year

Roll on the "stretch in the evenings".And the "Cock step" on the 6th January will show us that spring is close.

Spanish Eyes

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's the 22nd this year, most people seem to think it's the 21st erry year

Hi fellow traveller into the light :P

Thelonious Monk

bmc58 wrote: »

Roll on the "stretch in the evenings".And the "Cock step" on the 6th January will show us that spring is close.

And the inevitable threads about the clocks changing, blurgh

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

By the end of December we'll have over a minute more daylight each day.

Signore Fancy Pants

Jenna Tart Crayon wrote: »

By the end of December we'll have over a minute more daylight each day.

I don't like the sound of that.

Spanish Eyes

Jenna Tart Crayon wrote: »

By the end of December we'll have over a minute more daylight each day.

My old man used to say it was a hens trot every day into the light. Will never forget it. Bless him.

Thelonious Monk

I actually like the dark evenings until the new year then it kind of gets a bit old and depressing. The light today was beautiful, before it got dark!

Quantum Erasure

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

We are on the up soon. The other side of darkness.

Lovely.

the earliest sunset of the year was on the 14th (or thereabouts), so the evenings have been getting brighter for about a week, the latest sunrise isn't till the 30th though, so the mornings are still getting darker for a while yet...

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/ireland/dublin?month=12&year=2019

Bruthal

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's the 22nd this year, most people seem to think it's the 21st erry year

It will be the shortest time between sunrise and sunset, but not the earliest sunset which has already occurred.

Naggdefy

bmc58 wrote: »

Roll on the "stretch in the evenings".And the "Cock step" on the 6th January will show us that spring is close.

A phrase of my Mam's, nice to hear as it's not often heard.

Thelonious Monk

Bruthal wrote: »

It will be the shortest time between sunrise and sunset, but not the earliest sunset which has already occurred.

Isn't it called the Winter Solistice?

Spanish Eyes

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I actually like the dark evenings until the new year then it kind of gets a bit old and depressing. The light today was beautiful, before it got dark!

The blue skies are wonderful at this time of year. But are rare. Anyway we are moving on to longer days by the minute very soon.

I’m happy with that.

Snow posts incoming possible too.

Thelonious Monk

This is from the roof of my partner's office today at around 1530

dxhound2005

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Isn't it called the Winter Solistice?

Not quite.

4068ac1elhodqr

Book your tickets from your local Driud or whatnot for 22 Dec 04:19 to 08:38 for sunrise at Newgrange.

The increase in daylength is only 5secs from 22-23rd, then 7 secs occur after that around 24-25-26th.
Can't expect the Earth to handbrake and turn it all about too quickly.

The Celts cut mistletoe that grew on the oak tree and give it as a blessing, they reckoned the Sun died for 12 whole days (but they didn't have googlebot back then).

Romans were far more more woke: Their 'Saturnalia' ran for seven days from the 17th of December. It was a time when the ordinary rules were turned upside down. Men dressed as women and masters dressed as servants. The festival also involved decorating houses with greenery, lighting candles, holding processions and giving presents.

Blaizes

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

We are on the up soon. The other side of darkness.

Lovely.

Amen! Love the stretch in the evenings waking up to darkness and going home in darkness isn’t nice.Roll on spring!!

Bruthal

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Isn't it called the Winter Solistice?

It is. Which is probably more an actual moment rather than a day.

But the solstice happens a couple of days after the earliest sunset, and before the latest sunrise.

Spanish Eyes

Itzel Spicy Speaker wrote: »

Book your tickets from your local Driud or whatnot for 22 Dec 04:19 to 08:38 for sunrise at Newgrange.

The increase in daylength is only 5secs from 22-23rd, then 7 secs occur after that around 24-25-26th.
Can't expect the Earth to handbrake and turn it all about too quickly.

The Celts cut mistletoe that grew on the oak tree and give it as a blessing, they reckoned the Sun died for 12 whole days (but they didn't have googlebot back then).

Romans were far more more woke: Their 'Saturnalia' ran for seven days from the 17th of December. It was a time when the ordinary rules were turned upside down. Men dressed as women and masters dressed as servants. The festival also involved decorating houses with greenery, lighting candles, holding processions and giving presents.

Christmas without Amazon

4068ac1elhodqr

At this time of year the Druids & Nordics used to enjoy a nice yule log.
An entire tree trunk was lashed into the aul fireplace (other end sticking out the front door), lit for a 'bit of heating' and burnt for 12days.

Don't try this in modern times due to flaming elf 'n safety concerns.

The French approached this with a bit of whola, and used cherry trees sprinked with wine. Eng=Oak Scot=Birch etc.

The Flemish had more sense than risking burnt huts, and later started smaller yule logs made of a chocolate sponge roll layered with cream.

The Christians have stolen most of ye olde stuff e.g. the Son(Sun) dies for 3 days (22-25), and rises, born again, with a glimmering crown of thorns (sunrays).
Likely also stole the bit about the 3 Kings (Orions Belt) rising in the East, which all 'pointed' East to the rising star: Venus (I think).

ILoveYourVibes

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's the 22nd this year, most people seem to think it's the 21st erry year

Same day as the start of Hanukah (the festival of lights). Very fitting for the solstice.

HAPPY YULE AND CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!

Ninthlife

Such a racist thead..shame on you all

Putting the darker evenings behind you, brushing them aside and welcoming lighter days with open arms..

gw80

Itzel Spicy Speaker wrote: »

At this time of year the Druids & Nordics used to enjoy a nice yule log.
An entire tree trunk was lashed into the aul fireplace (other end sticking out the front door), lit for a 'bit of heating' and burnt for 12days.

Don't try this in modern times due to flaming elf 'n safety concerns.

The French approached this with a bit of whola, and used cherry trees sprinked with wine. Eng=Oak Scot=Birch etc.

The Flemish had more sense than risking burnt huts, and later started smaller yule logs made of a chocolate sponge roll layered with cream.

The Christians have stolen most of ye olde stuff e.g. the Son(Sun) dies for 3 days (22-25), and rises, born again, with a glimmering crown of thorns (sunrays).
Likely also stole the bit about the 3 Kings (Orions Belt) rising in the East, which all 'pointed' East to the rising star: Venus (I think).

Its almost like Europe had its own, more natural costoms and traditions before the bastardised version of some middle eastern mythology arrived on our shores,
It makes me sad sometimes when kids go into one class and are told about ancient irish myth and folklore and that it was all make believe, and then go to another class ( religion) and be told about ME mythology and that its all true and it really happened,

ILoveYourVibes

Harry Palmr

I look forward to RTE's annual filming of a barely visible chamber at Newgrange tomb as the cloud/fog spoils the party.

After last winter being so good weather wise - dry and mild I'll be glad to see the back of this one already.

mikecope

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I look forward to RTE's annual filming of a barely visible chamber at Newgrange tomb as the cloud/fog spoils the party.

After last winter being so good weather wise - dry and mild I'll be glad to see the back of this one already.

Nonetheless pretty astonishing that the inhabitants of this island were watching the same event during the winter solstice 5000 years ago. How many countries can claim something so unique.

Harry Palmr

and sure enough a no show at Newgrange!

tara73

had some ridiculous stupid fight with my parents a few years ago. they insisted after the 21.12 the time of sunset stays for about two weeks the same. I said that could not be as the earth is angled to the sun (or however to explain it, I'm no astrologist) and that no sunset or sunrise in a year can be at the same time.

sunset in this two weeks after the 21.12. is actually only measurable in seconds, and not in minutes like it starts end of december or january. And because they don't show seconds on a 'normal' calender, they were convinced of their BS..:rolleyes:.

Bruthal

tara73 wrote: »

had some ridiculous stupid fight with my parents a few years ago. they insisted after the 21.12 the time of sunset stays for about two weeks the same. I said that could not be as the earth is angled to the sun (or however to explain it, I'm no astrologist) and that no sunset or sunrise in a year can be at the same time.

sunset in this two weeks after the 21.12. is actually only measurable in seconds, and not in minutes like it starts end of december or january. And because they don't show seconds on a 'normal' calender, they were convinced of their BS..:rolleyes:.

Did you explain the soltice sunset being later than previous days to them as well?

scamalert

yes days will get longer, but in most cases if not working from early morning to evening wont be much noticeable until like march.

is_that_so

scamalert wrote: »

yes days will get longer, but in most cases if not working from early morning to evening wont be much noticeable until like march.

No, you'll see it from the end of January as it'll be after 5.

Harry Palmr

You can see the difference pretty quickly - if the skies are clear. That's the big proviso in an Irish winter.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

My old man used to say it was a hens trot every day into the light. Will never forget it. Bless him.

We always said A cock's step.

So I looked it up

The Feast of the Epiphany is also called coir-ceim-coilleach, which means 'the cocks step'; the first noticeable lengthening of the daylight hours.


From Twelfth Day, the day begins to lengthen by a male hen's span or stride. ~Breton Proverb~

Bobtheman

Thank God. The darkness out there reflects the darkness within...

ILoveYourVibes

Let the sunshine in !

ILoveYourVibes

Although the upside to it being the shortest day of the year is its the longest night of the year

Quantum Erasure

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I look forward to RTE's annual filming of a barely visible chamber at Newgrange tomb as the cloud/fog spoils the party.
.

Ironically, It was bright and clear this morning on the actual solstice, but thats yesterdays news so there were no cameras there....