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Bit Harsh !?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Necessary. That vast private prison system isn't easy to fill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Crazy sentence. Sure he’s very wild and he shouldn’t have done it but that’s just too severe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    "He was found guilty last month of hate crime harassment, reckless use of fire and being a habitual offender."


    Hope everybody reads this before commenting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I'm sure he's a total and utter prick but that it is beyond harsh, actually feel bad for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Prison is a business in America, you could get 5 years for farting on a bus. Sending people to jail is a money making scheme.

    In Ireland keeping lads out of jail so they can keep coming back to line the free legal aid pockets of their solicitors is the scheme.

    Make America Get Out of Here



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Of course it would be ridiculous if he got 15 years in prison for burning a pride flag.

    But he didn't. See use of "habitual offender".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    "He was found guilty last month of hate crime harassment, reckless use of fire and being a habitual offender."


    Hope everybody reads this before commenting.

    Yep, too many chances given to this repeat offender.

    No loss to society. No miscarriage of justice.

    Zero sympathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Previous convictions, lack of remorse, openly admitting to hatred, you reap what you sow. If it was a once off drunk prank I’m sure he’d have got a fair shake of the system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    After hours logic; complain when habitual offenders are let walk and also complain when habitual offenders are sent to prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    After hour logic; complain when habitual offenders are let walk and also complain when habitual offenders are sent to prison.

    It's an awful pity about him (not)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    "He was found guilty last month of hate crime harassment, reckless use of fire and being a habitual offender."


    Hope everybody reads this before commenting.


    I read it as they were all charges arising from this one incident. Burning the American flag is not illegal and nobody has been convicted of a hate crime for doing so, so I think in this particular instance an example is being made of this individual. I don’t expect the ACLU to be beating a path to his jail cell any time soon to defend his civil rights though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I read it as they were all charges arising from this one incident. Burning the American flag is not illegal and nobody has been convicted of a hate crime for doing so, so I think in this particular instance an example is being made of this individual. I don’t expect the ACLU to be beating a path to his jail cell any time soon to defend his civil rights though.
    He also threatened to burn down the club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Victor wrote: »
    He also threatened to burn down the club.


    I know, and he plead guilty as charged and was still sentenced to 15 years in prison, the first person in the county to be convicted of a hate crime. It’s obvious from the sentence handed down that the Judge wanted to send a message to the wider community that such behaviour will be dealt with harshly, but I think in this particular case the punishment is grossly disproportionate to the scale of the offence committed.

    EDIT: The 15 years was for the hate crime of arson? That makes even less sense, to be honest. The sentences for the other two charges were a year for reckless use of explosives or fire, and 30 days for harassment -


    Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson, as well as a year for the reckless use of explosives or fire, and 30 days for harassment. The sentences are to be served consecutively, Story County court records show.

    https://apnews.com/195d858e100032f445209df50f876040

    Have to admit to a certain admiration for the prosecutions creative use of hyperbole :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Hmmm, kicked out of strip club, takes pride flag, returns to strip club, burns flag. Strikes me as a guy who got rejected by a lesbian stripper.


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