Things you just "don't get"?

Huntergonzo

SuperGrover wrote: »

Yes, they are the only two options.

Two options?

SuperGrover

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Two options?

Yes

Huntergonzo

SuperGrover wrote: »

Yes

Haha ok so, whatever you say chief.

SuperGrover

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Haha ok so, whatever you say chief.

Indeed

Bruthal

Greyfox wrote: »

Your first paragraph is talking about things that make a significant difference.

So, it has to make a huge difference, or else its a gimmick.

And, the point is, when cars first came, there would certainly have been people saying they are no good, they need roads etc.

I seen a few on here say the same about electric cars, saying they are gimmicks etc.

Your 2nd paragraph is talking about a completely unnecessary gimmick so I take it you accept the poster your quoting is correct.

I guess posting that was more necessary than a timer which is easily setup and monitored.

New tech is cool but a lot of the industr is inventing solutions to things that didn't really need to be solved and are there just to save a lazy person a few minutes

So what do you think should happen, no progress unless we can come up with something as revolutionary as the wheel? Perhaps we should have went straight from the abacus to windows 10, as all the small improvement steps were not needed. (although they were, to make progress, im sure you understand)

And, an immersion timer is a crude device in many cases. Where as the wifi controlled ones can be just as cheap, and hugely more versatile. So yes, get the wall mounted one because having the phone controlled one is lazy:pac:

Wilfuler.

Wilfuler. wrote: »

I'm in the electrical business but still..

Why would u need to turn on an immersion heater at random times?

I have full smart heating system controls not the immersion and it is an absolutely brilliant system. You simply don’t realise how good it is if you think it’s not useful.

We are always arriving home at random times and can turn the heat on 20 mins before home to have the house heated, or turn on the hot water when showers or hot water is needed for other reasons.

On top of that the scheduling etc can all be done from an app and you can set as many on/off timers as you wish, set all different target temperatures, do it all from the app which is so much handier than leaning into a poorly layout timer in the back hall. You can also monitor everything when away and never worry “did I turn off the heat”?

Then on top of that you can just ask Alexa to boost the heat from bed with just even opening your eyes so you arrive down stairs and it’s nice and warm or similar for boosting the water. In short it’s an absolutely fantastic system to have.

Anyone comparing about smart home stuff are just doing it out of ignorance, they are anti-progress/tech or simply want to stir things.

Bruthal

Rex Scary Tendinitis wrote: »

Anyone comparing about smart home stuff are just doing it out of ignorance imo, they are anti-progress/tech or simply want to stir things.

One or both I`d say.

Jamsiek

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Haha I've heard all that before.

Maybe that's the case if you go out in a city for new year's but I don't, I stick to the local pubs (do about 2 or 3, maybe 4 at a push). Good crowds but never uncomfortably packed, no admittance charges at all, you just walk straight in, get a taxi home handy enough and have a good night out.

Or sit at home depressed trying to convince yourself you made the correct decision, while drawing up all the 'new year, new me' plans :-)

House parties and street parties have been the best ways to spend NYE in my experience.
Not sure why you think, local pub or home alone are the only 2 viable options.

Huntergonzo

Jamsiek wrote: »

House parties and street parties have been the best ways to spend NYE in my experience.
Not sure why you think, local pub or home alone are the only 2 viable options.

I don't think they're the only 2 options, I've celebrated new year's eve in plenty of different ways, the locals happen to be personal favourites though.

Rex Scary Tendinitis

Rex Scary Tendinitis wrote: »

I have full smart heating system controls not the immersion and it is an absolutely brilliant system. You simply don’t realise how good it is if you think it’s not useful.

We are always arriving home at random times and can turn the heat on 20 mins before home to have the house heated, or turn on the hot water when showers or hot water is needed for other reasons.

On top of that the scheduling etc can all be done from an app and you can set as many on/off timers as you wish, set all different target temperatures, do it all from the app which is so much handier than leaning into a poorly layout timer in the back hall. You can also monitor everything when away and never worry “did I turn off the heat”?

Then on top of that you can just ask Alexa to boost the heat from bed with just even opening your eyes so you arrive down stairs and it’s nice and warm or similar for boosting the water. In short it’s an absolutely fantastic system to have.

Anyone comparing about smart home stuff are just doing it out of ignorance, they are anti-progress/tech or simply want to stir things.

ye, when we buy a house, i'm gona smart home the **** out of it
no point installing the heat where we are now but at least we've smart plugs for the fan heater and electric blanket

bluewolf

bluewolf wrote: »

ye, when we buy a house, i'm gona smart home the **** out of it
no point installing the heat where we are now but at least we've smart plugs for the fan heater and electric blanket

We got the smart heating installed for free, fully covered by the seai smart heating grant. Worth looking into.

wakka12

Bruthal wrote: »

Who needs cars when we had horses. Or electricity. Or mobiles when we already had phone boxes everywhere. Or email when we had postal services.

One regularly asked question is about immersion timers. Add in a sonoff WiFi switch and you now have a programmable timer and status viewable setup with phone. No more wondering has someone left the immersion on.

Electricity and email literally transformed almost all aspects of society for the better when they were invented and you think its comparable to an immersion timer?

Pawwed Rig

wakka12 wrote: »

Electricity and email literally transformed almost all aspects of society for the better when they were invented and you think its comparable to an immersion timer?

I think the point was that electricity and email were not invented in a vacuum. There was a thousand immersion timer sized steps involved in the development of both.

Bruthal

wakka12 wrote: »

Electricity and email literally transformed almost all aspects of society for the better when they were invented and you think its comparable to an immersion timer?

Well we did not jump from the cave to the email and electrified house over a weekend. People who dismiss home automation as unnecessary gimmicks are likely the ones who would have said the same about the big "inventions" you mention, when they were just being discovered.

So it is not about comparing the immersion timer to the national grid, it is a point that there will always be people who dismiss progress when they can only visualize great leaps from a century later.

Im guessing you think an immersion timer is useless then.

Bruthal

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I think the point was that electricity and email were not invented in a vacuum. There was a thousand immersion timer sized steps involved in the development of both.

Exactly.

CrankyHaus

Bruthal wrote: »

Well we did not jump from the cave to the email and electrified house over a weekend. People who dismiss home automation as unnecessary gimmicks are likely the ones who would have said the same about the big "inventions" you mention, when they were just being discovered.

So it is not about comparing the immersion timer to the national grid, it is a point that there will always be people who dismiss progress when they can only visualize great leaps from a century later.

Im guessing you think an immersion timer is useless then.

Technology has pros and cons. There is a debate to be had as to whether the intrusion of barely accountable mega corporations into your home and private life is a fair exchange for sightly greater convenience. That's not to mention the risk of this intrusion being hijacked by other parties, whether foreign intelligence services or criminals.

Adoption of a new technology is not a zero sum game either, as one may adopt it in a safer or more cautious manner. Eg French Nuclear Power as opposed to Soviet Nuclear Power. European mixed transport models with cars and excellent public transport as opposed to the US model of ripping up good streetcar and rail networks and replacing them with superhighways and dispersed suburbs.

I mean right now one of the biggest political issues in the developed world is how over the last 100 years we sleep walked into potential environmental disaster by adopting unsustainable ways of living driven by new technologies. Surely it behoves us to act with a little caution rather than shouting down any naysayers as conspiracy theory freaks and luddites.

cryptocurrency

People in the UK going on about the NHS. It's rubbish.

Bruthal

CrankyHaus wrote: »

I mean right now one of the biggest political issues in the developed world is how over the last 100 years we sleep walked into potential environmental disaster by adopting unsustainable ways of living driven by new technologies. Surely it behoves us to act with a little caution rather than shouting down any naysayers as conspiracy theory freaks and luddites.

If someone says a convenient timer is just for lazy people, i don`t think the CO2 count was their worry really. If everyone had easy monitored and controlled timers on their immersions, home heating etc, it might reduce wastage.

I love all the smart home stuff, absolutely game-changing in terms of convenience. Plus I never have to spend a day in work wondering if I really did switch on the slow cooker or if I just think I did. My OH turns on the coffee machine before he opens his eyes. I get notified when the dryer is finished so I can go fold things (and avoid ironing, most importantly) as soon as it's finished instead of getting distracted when I'm working from home.

One thing I really don't get is the fashion for 'Rose Gold'. Anything metal seems to come in a rose gold option now, not just jewellery. I hate it. I saw a side table with rose gold legs the other day, it just looks tacky. It's a hideous color, makes things look cheap and nasty, and when the fashion inevitably dies out people will be wondering what on earth they were thinking.

Wayne Jarvis

Candie wrote: »

One thing I really don't get is the fashion for 'Rose Gold'. Anything metal seems to come in a rose gold option now, not just jewellery. I hate it. I saw a side table with rose gold legs the other day, it just looks tacky. It's a hideous color, makes things look cheap and nasty, and when the fashion inevitably dies out people will be wondering what on earth they were thinking.

I work in the jewellery industry and while I don't know about tables, decorations etc.. I can tell you that we have in our job sold a hell of a lot more rose gold items in the last 2 years than ever before. It is basically just gold and copper whereas gold itself is made up of gold, copper and silver to prevent the colour changing. It think it costs less to manufacture rose gold than standard gold but it gets sold for quite a lot more. I don't think the trend is going anywhere yet in the jewellery industry at least. May I suggest you do a 180 and embrace it all full on? Get yourself a rose gold kitchen table or some such? It may just grow on you Candie!

iamwhoiam

I genuinely don’t get inconsiderate people . Do all people not actually realise that if we were all considerate to each other that life would be much nicer ?

iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I genuinely don’t get inconsiderate people . Do all people not actually realise that if we were all considerate to each other that life would be much nicer ?

I think most people realise that if you’re considerate to everyone and you see what way people are back to you that you’re basically a doormat.

Guy Person

Guy Person wrote: »

I work in the jewellery industry and while I don't know about tables, decorations etc.. I can tell you that we have in our job sold a hell of a lot more rose gold items in the last 2 years than ever before. It is basically just gold and copper whereas gold itself is made up of gold, copper and silver to prevent the colour changing. It think it costs less to manufacture rose gold than standard gold but it gets sold for quite a lot more. I don't think the trend is going anywhere yet in the jewellery industry at least. May I suggest you do a 180 and embrace it all full on? Get yourself a rose gold kitchen table or some such? It may just grow on you Candie!

How dare you suggest such a thing!

I'm fine with another year of rose gold saturation, it just means there'll be ever more of it around and people will tire of it sooner. And hopefully at that point, it'll retreat into the depths of Lucifers bowels, from whence it surely came!

iamwhoiam

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I think most people realise that if you’re considerate to everyone and you see what way people are back to you that you’re basically a doormat.

Which is my point . If all people were nice to each other it would make life so much nicer

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Candie wrote: »

I love all the smart home stuff, absolutely game-changing in terms of convenience. Plus I never have to spend a day in work wondering if I really did switch on the slow cooker or if I just think I did. My OH turns on the coffee machine before he opens his eyes. I get notified when the dryer is finished so I can go fold things (and avoid ironing, most importantly) as soon as it's finished instead of getting distracted when I'm working from home.

One thing I really don't get is the fashion for 'Rose Gold'. Anything metal seems to come in a rose gold option now, not just jewellery. I hate it. I saw a side table with rose gold legs the other day, it just looks tacky. It's a hideous color, makes things look cheap and nasty, and when the fashion inevitably dies out people will be wondering what on earth they were thinking.

It depends on the hue. Some rose gold looks very gaudy but it can be very delicate too and look beautiful. It most definitely doesn’t always look cheap. My friend’s engagement ring is rose gold with a pearl as the stone and it’s by far the nicest engagement ring I’ve seen. Rose gold that veers towards coppery in colour is also lovely, IMO.

B0jangles

I don't hate rose-gold as a colour at all, but I find the level of saturation it has hit to be pretty insane - for the last couple of years everything in both jewellery and fashion seems to be some variation on it. I just worry that in a couple of years it'll be like avocado bathrooms - they seems like a really good and cool idea at the time, but we all know how well they aged.

iamstop

The "Interview the person below you" thread. And it's the second one! Pointless drivel IMHO.

Huntergonzo

Happy new misers, hope yous enjoyed the miserable (I hate new years just cause) night at home, hehe :-)

the beer revolu

Fancy baking.
All these home cooks baking really complicated, decorated cakes. Swiss merangue butter cream, Russian butter cream, ganache, glazes, rolled fondant.
Amateur bake offs and Instagram obsession.

I just don't get it.

And popular desserts.
Malteesers are a cheap crappy sweet - they don't make high end desserts - same goes for crunches and marathons.

I just don't get these desserts.

Also, Bailey's cheesecake seemed innovative and fancy in the 80s. Can it please fcuk off now!

If the alternative to baileys cheesecake is any kind of citrus then the liqueur can stay.