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Christmas Turkeys

  • 15-12-2019 9:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭


    When are you sending them off to the factory?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭3 the square


    Gael23 wrote: »
    When are you sending them off to the factory?

    Where is the factory??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Where is the factory??

    Do you kill them yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Gael23 wrote: »
    When are you sending them off to the factory?

    Are you looking to buy a Turkey or?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    gozunda wrote: »
    Are you looking to buy a Turkey or?

    Would you have any idea on price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    gozunda wrote: »
    Are you looking to buy a Turkey or?

    Have ordered one already. Just curious to know if it’s still alive or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    We kill our generally on the 19th or 20th Dec. Chances are your lad is still walking around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    We kill our generally on the 19th or 20th Dec. Chances are your lad is still walking around.

    Is there much work with them? Is there a market for them live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Is there much work with them? Is there a market for them live?

    We only keep a small few. Around 20 this year. Plenty of work and no money. Like a lot of farming 😀
    We keep a very traditional breed , single breast and reared outside. They taste like no other Turkey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    We only keep a small few. Around 20 this year. Plenty of work and no money. Like a lot of farming 😀
    We keep a very traditional breed , single breast and reared outside. They taste like no other Turkey!

    If a lad reared 50, would a butcher buy them live? I’ve a son with DS and he loves his hens and pigs. Trying to diversify 😉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    If a lad reared 50, would a butcher buy them live? I’ve a son with DS and he loves his hens and pigs. Trying to diversify 😉

    I don't know. But I'll hazard a guess that a butcher will only want them New York dressed. That would be dead, plucked and ready to chill.
    There'd be a nice bit of work turning out 50 Turkeys NY dressed. It all has to happen in a fairly small time frame.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Do I need a license for that? Or maybe your man in Kildare with the poultry abattoir on the farm might do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Do I need a license for that? Or maybe your man in Kildare with the poultry abattoir on the farm might do.

    You certainly have to be registered with the Dept. Outside of this requirement I can't advise you. I'm not at that level here so I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    They are handy enough reared and were good for the cash flow around Christmas. we used keep 100 in the sheep shed a couple of barrels on truck tyres halved a few drinkers and fresh straw every couple of days. 2 people would process 20 a day at there ease and customers would order and call to the house to pick up the bird. We packed it up over 20 years ago, we got lazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    kerryjack wrote: »
    They are handy enough reared and were good for the cash flow around Christmas. we used keep 100 in the sheep shed a couple of barrels on truck tyres halved a few drinkers and fresh straw every couple of days. 2 people would process 20 a day at there ease and customers would order and call to the house to pick up the bird. We packed it up over 20 years ago, we got lazy.

    Any idea what you'd make per bird ding a 100 or so?

    Thinking of doing it here next year. Had a few this year to see what they're like and was pleasantly surprised. Can't beat the taste of them either.

    Was told by another farmer that does around 100 turkeys and geese that he gets them killed and prep'd etc somewhere in Galway for €9/bird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Don't think there is a great market for large turkeys any more family's are smaller That was our USP. People want small turkeys now that will be done quick and eaten quicker and you can buy them for 20 quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Do most farmers kill their own turkeys or are they sent to
    meat processors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    It's an important life skill here to be able to kill and clean out a chicken or a turkey same as a fish. I could do sheep and pigs too if I was left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Sillycave


    We used to do between 100-150...plucking was the slow job, cleaning them out was quick enough but by jaysus your hands would be falling off ya and ur feet too...gave it up after the real hard freeze as it was a bloody nightmare...used to do card game for birds at the start which was great craic....used to boil a huge pot of spuds outside and mix barely when cook...the smell was unreal and the turkeys would eat you to get to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Do most farmers kill their own turkeys or are they sent to
    meat processors?
    Anyone keeping/rearing any types of fowl must be registered with DAFM - Dept of Agriculture.

    AFAIK if you sell turkeys to the public they have to be killed, plucked and eviscerated/cleaned out at a DAFM licenced butcher/abattoir.
    You can rear your own turkeys for your family and friends but they cannot be sold to the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Aldi selling turkeys this year for as little as €8.99......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Aldi selling turkeys this year for as little as €8.99......

    British turkeys last I checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    _Brian wrote: »
    British turkeys last I checked.

    According to their website, turkeys are Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner



    2016 that was. We gotten our turkey from there for last 3 years since our butcher closed down. Have to say it's really good.
    Veg will come from our allotment so that's the hard part left for me:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Ya a turkey is a turkey at the end of the day hard to tell the difference between 100 euro turkey and a 20 euro turkey, of course we don't know what they are feeding the 20 euro bird I can only imagine the junk they are being fed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Ya a turkey is a turkey at the end of the day hard to tell the difference between 100 euro turkey and a 20 euro turkey, of course we don't know what they are feeding the 20 euro bird I can only imagine the junk they are being fed.

    Wouldnt pay 20 or 100 for a turkey.
    I would want all the paper work to prove the turkey had the best diet possible if spending a 100 on it. Only feeding 4 adults and two kids that won't eat it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I would pay more than the frozen Tesco ones but not top of the range either. Would go free range more for animal welfare reasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    According to their website, turkeys are Irish.

    100% the fridge I checked was full of nothing but British turkey and goose.

    Maybe they have changed since, that was 6th Dec, Aldi in Cavan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Are many lads here selling turkeys? I remember there used to be live auctions in Maynooth years ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Auctions are gone more than 10-15 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Ganly and Craigie - Ashbourne Livestock Mart used to have one of the largest turkey sales in Ireland for NYD birds. A lot of the Dublin city and county butchers would buy there. I used to sell heavy cock turkeys there that nobody wanted - 28lb+ birds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Is it feasible to rear turkeys and sell live? If I could rear 50 or 100 I’d do it. A market is required before I’d try it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Simple answer is NO - the days where you could sell live turkeys/poultry at the local market square are long gone.

    You can rear and slaughter your own turkeys/broilers for home/other family members/friends but you cannot sell them. Also if you wish to keep poultry you have to be registered with DAFM as a poultry flock irrespective of how many you keep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I think you can own 5 un-registered. I read that in a defence of a planning objection, so presume it's correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    No, if you keep poultry irrespective of numbers you need to register for a flock no from DAFM. It costs nothing and its a simple form to fill out.

    "Legislation

    All poultry premises, regardless of size or whether or not they are kept on a commercial basis, must be registered with the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine. All persons involved in owning, keeping, dealing or trading in poultry must be registered under the Diseases of Animals Act 1966 (Registration of Poultry Premises) Order 2008 (S.I. No. 42 of 2008 as amended by S.I. No. 57 of 2011) and adhere to the disease prevention and control requirement set out by this legislation. See DAFM for more."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    The objection was in 2016, permission was sought for a chicken run & coop for 5 hens Neighbour across road from them objected. Permission was granted. They're a touchy lot at that side of the parish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    How much is a day old turkey or a 6 week one now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    They were 7.50 euro this Yr. We do a good few for people they have being buying from us years. No flock number here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Someone was talking about turkeys for €18.99 in one of the supermarkets. No way would that cover costs to the farmer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    There were 2 left in one of the local butcher's this morning, priced at €73 I'd reckon they were about 16-18 lbs wt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    18.99 would cover the cost of buying the chicks at a month old and then the cost of cleaning them out on the other end.

    In between the turkeys would have to live off fresh air and then figure out how to kill and pluck themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Can’t believe the variation in price between Dunnes and SuperValu.

    Post edited by memorystick on


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