Is this generation weaker emotionally than the previous one?

mr_fegelien

The "snowflake" generation as they call it, do you agree? I'm a millenial and talked to people who lived in the 60s and 70s, they seem to mostly agree.

Could we not attribute it to a rising population of people? There were three billion 50 years ago and now 7 billion. They'll always be a percentage of people in a society who can't handle life so more people on earth will mean more of these statistically speaking as they'll be the same percentage of a higher number.

Also social media/the media highlights the worst of the worst. 50 years ago, you wouldn't here of the worst behaving people across the world just in your locale.

mr_fegelien

Texas Sunshine wrote: »

What does "this generation" mean? 10 year olds, 30 year olds, 50 year olds?

Young teens and adults (16-25). Anyone born after 1990.

Pinch Flat

Which generation are you Mr F?

Because they're WOKE? OP, you COULD have had the makings of a good thread. You flubbed it. 3/10

eviltwin

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Young teens and adults (16-25). Anyone born after 1990.

So young people. I'm an aul one and people that age have always been over emotional drama llamas, it's just they have an outlet to share their thoughts that previous generations didn't have. It's an age thing mostly, mentally you're still developing for your teens and early 20's. They will grow out of it, they always do.

Hercule Poirot

mr_fegelien wrote: »

The "snowflake" generation as they call it, do you agree? I'm a millenial and talked to people who lived in the 60s and 70s, they seem to mostly agree.

Could we not attribute it to a rising population of people? There were three billion 50 years ago and now 7 billion. They'll always be a percentage of people in a society who can't handle life so more people on earth will mean more of these statistically speaking as they'll be the same percentage of a higher number.

Also social media/the media highlights the worst of the worst. 50 years ago, you wouldn't here of the worst behaving people across the world just in your locale.

OK Boomer

Montage of Feck

I'll leave it to Tony....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvjYuIBy-oQ

Say Your Number

I can't wait till I reach the age where I can lament how soft the youth of the day are and blather on about how much tougher we had it.

ILoveYourVibes

I feel i am much weaker than everyone else. That is all i know.

Leg End Reject

I think parents molly coddle to a much greater extent so teenagers are more dependent.

We were all sensitive though as we muddled our way through teenage angst.

HalloweenJack

I think people are more comfortable talking about their feelings these days and that can only be a good thing. Social media also makes it seem like it is going on a lot more whereas previously we wouldn't have heard as much about it.

I'd go in to more detail but I don't think the thread is going to last very long...

Woke Hogan

I’m almost in my 60s and I think the people aged between 35-50 are far softer than the young people who came after them.

Young people are active politically, they don’t drink as much as people used to and they look after their health far more than older people.

Men aged 35-50 are weak from indulging their urges constantly and consistently. Their fat fingers yellow from smoking fags, their fat arses oozing over their smelly worn recliners as they inhale yet another disgusting takeaway lathered with creams and sauces washed down with cheap cans of lager. Their fat double chins and fat tits jiggling as they laugh obnoxiously at episodes of Top Gear, their yellow teeth bared like a chimpanzee’s.

It’s people like this who take pride in themselves on being “blokes” and “real men” even though they have so little testosterone their stubble grows in in little patches. Lazy, fat, weak men.

Church on Tuesday

OSI wrote: »

Despite supposedly being the “emotionally stronger” generations, older folk sure are obsessed with how the “snowflake” generation think and perceive the world around them.

More like emotionally repressed.

Still waters

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I’m almost in my 60s and I think the people aged between 35-50 are far softer than the young people who came after them.

Young people are active politically, they don’t drink as much as people used to and they look after their health far more than older people.

Men aged 35-50 are weak from indulging their urges constantly and consistently. Their fat fingers yellow from smoking fags, their fat arses oozing over their smelly worn recliners as they inhale yet another disgusting takeaway lathered with creams and sauces washed down with cheap cans of lager. Their fat double chins and fat tits jiggling as they laugh obnoxiously at episodes of Top Gear, their yellow teeth bared like a chimpanzee’s.

It’s people like this who take pride in themselves on being “blokes” and “real men” even though they have so little testosterone their stubble grows in in little patches. Lazy, fat, weak men.

Did you get a horn writing that

Leg End Reject

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

More like emotionally repressed.

Actually this is probably the crux of the matter. Previous generations were brought up to just get on with things and not complain, particularly men. I'd imagine a lot of older men can't talk about their feelings because they'd feel ashamed or weak.

Woke Hogan

Still waters wrote: »

Did you get a horn writing that

No.

Andrew00

Yes the teenagers now and early 20s are weak in every sense.

Crying about everything, out protesting about abortion, climate change and gay marriage.

Dying their hair green and purple (even the "males" are doing it)

Its gone to the dogs and most ppl will agree with me

Your Face

I think people of older generations are weaker emotionally. Repression of feelings isn't strength, it's a cowardice.

Church on Tuesday

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Actually this is probably the crux of the matter. Previous generations were brought up to just get on with things and not complain, particularly men. I'd imagine a lot of older men can't talk about their feelings because they'd feel ashamed or weak.

Pretty much.

From conversing with older men, there's a certain facade there but after a while that gets eroded away gradually.

It's simply the way they were brought up.

Us men, well a lot of men, are just like that though. I certainly think there's a lot to be said for being stoic in certain situations but I really feel you have to be clued in emotionally as well. It's just more healthy in the long run.

Still waters

Woke Hogan wrote: »

No.

Impotent ?

Woke Hogan

Andrew00 wrote: »

Yes the teenagers now and early 20s are weak in every sense.

Crying about everything, out protesting about abortion, climate change and gay marriage.

Dying their hair green and purple (even the "males" are doing it)

Its gone to the dogs and most ppl will agree with me

I disagree with you emphatically.

Climate change is the most important issue concerning the human species right now and it’s correct that young people are out protesting the ambivalence shown towards it by the elites.

This website is full of middle aged climate change deniers who think that they’re showing how savvy they are by declaring that climate change is just a ruse to raise taxes. They think proclamations that “sure they’re only after your money” through their sweaty jowls actually makes people think that they are canny and clued-in political commentators. Weak men running away from the problem.

Woke Hogan

Still waters wrote: »

Impotent ?

Your auld lady didn’t think so last night, she was able to count my pulse on the ****ing thing.

SEPT 23 1989

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I disagree with you emphatically.

Climate change is the most important issue concerning the human species right now and it’s correct that young people are out protesting the ambivalence shown towards it by the elites.

This website is full of middle aged climate change deniers who think that they’re showing how savvy they are by declaring that climate change is just a ruse to raise taxes. They think proclamations that “sure they’re only after your money” through their sweaty jowls actually makes people think that they are canny and clued-in political commentators. Weak men running away from the problem.

Putting a roof over ones head on an working mans wage

A health service that works when you get sick

A place for your child in a school local to you

Things that actually matter

Climate change is for the ones who have very little else to worry about

One eyed Jack

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Actually this is probably the crux of the matter. Previous generations were brought up to just get on with things and not complain, particularly men. I'd imagine a lot of older men can't talk about their feelings because they'd feel ashamed or weak.

I’d imagine the vast majority of people of either sex just don’t want to talk about their feelings. I don’t think it’s that they can’t, it’s that they just don’t want to, and not because they’d feel ashamed or weak, but simply because they don’t want to express their feelings in the way a small minority of people think they should.

Still waters

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Your auld lady didn’t think so last night, she was able to count my pulse on the ****ing thing.

Good for her, lucky to have someone woke to be hoppin off her

seannash

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I’d imagine the vast majority of people of either sex just don’t want to talk about their feelings. I don’t think it’s that they can’t, it’s that they just don’t want to, and not because they’d feel ashamed or weak, but simply because they don’t want to express their feelings in the way a small minority of people think they should.

I kinda agree with this but maybe a slightly different way of looking at it.
I'm 38 and can and do talk about my feelings....sometimes. i dont have an urge to share everything but its not from a fear of looking weak or vulnerable. And this assumption that older men dont talk because they are embarrassed is what bugs me.
Some people like to work things out on their own. Some people can let things go easily. I personally dont need to let everyone know my every feeling.
And i think a lot of my friends of similar age are the same. With all my good friends i have had deep and meaningful conversation throughout our whole lives.
And we also have kept stum about a lot of things.
I'm not saying its better but i dont think its wrong or harmful to some people not to talk about your feelings if you dont want to.
And these types of people i don't find as frequently in the younger generation

Every generation thinks that the youth of the day are away with the fairies.

They will grow up and (hopefully) form their own opinions. Social media and fake news have a lot to answer for.

Having spent some time with a group of secondary school students recently, I’m of the opinion that they’re no different to their counterparts of previous generations. They will mature and the rosy scales will fall from their eyes.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Your auld lady didn’t think so last night, she was able to count my pulse on the ****ing thing.

That sounds a joke made by somebody who enjoys Top Gear.

Austria!

Andrew00 wrote: »

Yes the teenagers now and early 20s are weak in every sense.

Crying about everything, out protesting about abortion, climate change and gay marriage.

Dying their hair green and purple (even the "males" are doing it)

Ah the stoic elder, bravely complaining about the new hair dye colours they have now. Unflappable.

screamer

Life toughens you up, the school of hard knocks will do the same to the younger ones, so that when they’re ould wans they’ll be tough too. Leave them to enjoy their snowflakery as just like real snow.... it won’t last long.

LaFuton

loada shyte, much more to b dealz wit these days but suppose its relative as nobodz i kno can speak from outside their experience.
i think nietzsche said it best when he said phuckAll'yall
the whole human thing is a work in progress anyway, constantly adapting or you know, dying n stuff
multi dimensional transgression is upon us now from sin to sat nav, hows a person to cope
might dye my hair blonde and get a blowjob of an Italian who identifies as pasta

literally a figurative post

Blaizes

mr_fegelien wrote: »

The "snowflake" generation as they call it, do you agree? I'm a millenial and talked to people who lived in the 60s and 70s, they seem to mostly agree.

Could we not attribute it to a rising population of people? There were three billion 50 years ago and now 7 billion. They'll always be a percentage of people in a society who can't handle life so more people on earth will mean more of these statistically speaking as they'll be the same percentage of a higher number.

Also social media/the media highlights the worst of the worst. 50 years ago, you wouldn't here of the worst behaving people across the world just in your locale.

Don’t know that they are more emotionally weak, you could even argue that they are stronger because they share their experiences and are more open. I’m not in the age range ( too old ) but realise the technology revolution means that the world had changed big time. Things previously undiscussed or seen as taboo are all regularly discussed now.

LaFuton

and they still haven't tapped gravity... eh duh its time (motion, vibration) its the future source of energy but we way too busy sniffing each others arses

Reviews and Books Galore

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Actually this is probably the crux of the matter. Previous generations were brought up to just get on with things and not complain, particularly men. I'd imagine a lot of older men can't talk about their feelings because they'd feel ashamed or weak.

Or strong



Eh, people are different. I don't like talking about my feelings tbh as I tend to wallow. I prefer to have a nice angry rant about the situation.


And, to say something controversial, those emotionally repressed men did achieve quite alot in their time, as did the women who were equally told to bottle it all up and 'soldier/mother on'.

LaFuton

im drunk right now
and its feckin dedly

Signore Fancy Pants

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I’m almost in my 60s and I think the people aged between 35-50 are far softer than the young people who came after them.

Young people are active politically, they don’t drink as much as people used to and they look after their health far more than older people.

Men aged 35-50 are weak from indulging their urges constantly and consistently. Their fat fingers yellow from smoking fags, their fat arses oozing over their smelly worn recliners as they inhale yet another disgusting takeaway lathered with creams and sauces washed down with cheap cans of lager. Their fat double chins and fat tits jiggling as they laugh obnoxiously at episodes of Top Gear, their yellow teeth bared like a chimpanzee’s.

It’s people like this who take pride in themselves on being “blokes” and “real men” even though they have so little testosterone their stubble grows in in little patches. Lazy, fat, weak men.

LOL

Monokne

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I think people are more comfortable talking about their feelings these days and that can only be a good thing. Social media also makes it seem like it is going on a lot more whereas previously we wouldn't have heard as much about it.

I'd go in to more detail but I don't think the thread is going to last very long...

Far too sensible a take for this thread. I agree.

In terms of the topic at hand, the reality of it is most people will always filter the world through their lens. Things should be as they were when they grew up etc. If this is the way you think, then you're going to be left behind.

I'm 37. I'm thrilled that my kids are coming into a world where it's not only ok but encouraged for them to express their feelings & share their mental, spiritual and emotional journeys with one another more freely then they could have 30 years ago. And I feel great sympathy for my parents before me who had to tolerate even more of the stiff upper lip, 'you just get on with it' bullsh*t than I did.

I believe societally there needs to be as much focus on mental health as there is on physical health and that as we pass through generations, more and more awareness will develop and that can only be a good thing.

Junkyard Tom

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I feel i am much weaker than everyone else. That is all i know.

Ur stronger then u kno hun xxx

Irish Guitarist

work

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I’m almost in my 60s and I think the people aged between 35-50 are far softer than the young people who came after them.

Young people are active politically, they don’t drink as much as people used to and they look after their health far more than older people.

Men aged 35-50 are weak from indulging their urges constantly and consistently. Their fat fingers yellow from smoking fags, their fat arses oozing over their smelly worn recliners as they inhale yet another disgusting takeaway lathered with creams and sauces washed down with cheap cans of lager. Their fat double chins and fat tits jiggling as they laugh obnoxiously at episodes of Top Gear, their yellow teeth bared like a chimpanzee’s.

It’s people like this who take pride in themselves on being “blokes” and “real men” even though they have so little testosterone their stubble grows in in little patches. Lazy, fat, weak men.

Jesus that is some description. Perhaps the local youth where you live take time to become scumbags. I'm in my 40s and don't know a single person that meets your suggested brief but then again I don't know anyone that watches top-gear the mindless monologue self indulgent guttural climate denying trash.

To be honest we are all the same just living in different times. The age group you do refer to are considered the least happy group due to pressure from younger and older dependents, high work loads, high repayments and a knowledge the welfare they pay for (esp OAP, travel healthcare etc) will never be afforded to them at least not in its current form.

NewRed2

100% without any doubt we are weaker psychologically than previous generations.
Not emotionally but psychologically.
We're more in touch with emotions, deeper thinkers about how we feel just not sure what to do with it.
This is why anxiety is rife in our society.

Older generations you have a more structured way of life. Do your apprenticeship, get a job, support your family, rinse and repeat.
Kids watch it and repeated it, as kids do.

These days, kids are on I-phones checking for popularity on facebook in their teens, then off to college and again, more time to think, more time to be popular or unpopular, more free time to think about their place in the world. And now you need 2 degrees to stand out due to educational inflation so you stay in the bubble longer and longer, even living with parents til early 20's.

It's not a snowflake generation its a generation crippled with anxiety.

Woke Hogan

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Putting a roof over ones head on an working mans wage

A health service that works when you get sick

A place for your child in a school local to you

Things that actually matter

Climate change is for the ones who have very little else to worry about

A mealy mouthed reply.

Climate change is the most pressing issue concerning the human species, bar none. All of this “I’m just a regular Joe, I don’t have no time to be thinking about no climate change down t’pit” is just privileged people being proud of their ignorance.

smilerf

Yes they are
Suicide is a very sad thing but the amount of times I've read an article about someone committing suicide because of people they don't even know bashing them on the Internet is staggering

If that is not the biggest indicator I don't know what is

mikemac2

Whisper about your neighbour “they are in bed with their nerves, they need a break”

At one stage there were over 20,000 people in asylums, some for a “rest” and some never released.

People always had anxiety and depression but only recently is it something you can talk about in the community

LirW

I think the generations can't relate to each other's problems a lot. I'd be bang on a Millennial, my parents had me young so they're in their 50s.
I have to admit I have a hard time relating to problems they had when they were young because I never really experienced them, they were mostly eradicated by the time I was officially an adult.
In return they have a hard time relating to my generation's problems.
We're in the middle of a digital revolution and this impacts our lives a lot more than many would like to admit. Our generation has easy access to education and this makes it a requirement. While older generations had huge problems on their own, having a secure and stable work and living situation wasn't one of them. Many of us were raised with this philosophy and are still somehow held to this standard while things changed fundamentally.
Work isn't a lifetime gig anymore, round-the-clock flexibility is an unspoken requirement and despite pay being better than ever it's also harder to have a stable and affordable living situation.
The tale of working your way up in one place doesn't apply anymore the way it did 30 years ago. For many young people the only way to get ahead is by jumping ships regularly.
School and third level achievements are held to an incredibly high standard because alternative educational paths are not held to the same standard college education is. The workload for both is crazy and often difficult to combine with work commitments.

It's funny in a way, young people's lives are required to be digital, competitive and full of consumerism. For young people social media isn't a novelty, it's short of a requirement.
On the other hand we have more options than ever before and our society is highly developed. We're more open with our emotions and it's okay to not be okay. Former stigmas are broken down. We worry about things and have future challenges that differ vastly from our parents challenges.

I think the digital world developed so fast that people in their last stretch of their working life see it differently than young ones at the start of their career.
This huge shift certainly caused a lot of generational detachment.

BeerWolf

Ok Boomer

NewRed2

mikemac2 wrote: »

Whisper about your neighbour “they are in bed with their nerves, they need a break”

At one stage there were over 20,000 people in asylums, some for a “rest” and some never released.

People always had anxiety and depression but only recently is it something you can talk about in the community

Disagree. Anxiety is rife in modern society, youngsters & teenagers & college students are reporting it at ever increasing levels.
20,000 wherever you got that figure from is nothing compared to nowadays.
It's not that we talk about it more these days just for the sake of it, we talk about it more because it's a rapidly increasing problem.
Social media exposure at young ages is playing a massive part in this.
It's an unnatural thing for kids to be obsessing with what their peers say about them on facebook and living on their phones etc.
Nevermind sexting and all that malarky.
It matters far too much these days about what others think about you at a young age and that's feeding anxiety which a lot of people don't recover from and end up having to live with it long term.


Yes there were always mental health issues through the ages, absolutely, but to deny it's getting wrose is just burying your head in the sand.

Wanderer78

There was far less mental health issues in previous generations, as alcohol cured everything!

BeerWolf

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There was far less mental health issues in previous generations, as alcohol cured everything!

Information and study is alot easier since the Internet, along with progress in diagnostics. That being said, the spectrum of mental issues has been broadened too much over the most trivial of things to be, for example, considered autistic and such to what was "normal" back in the day.

Dakota Dan

OSI wrote: »

Despite supposedly being the “emotionally stronger” generations, older folk sure are obsessed with how the “snowflake” generation think and perceive the world around them.

Really? What study did you do to come to that conclusion other than a random thread on boards?