2020 Golden Globes

Boredstiff666

Dots1982 wrote: »

Subjugation of the individual’s rights and freedoms through the crushing of any opposition

Well I have never heard that before, but communists do that. Take Russia or USSR and China, then North Korea etc are perfect examples.

Socialists try to stop free speech by labeling it as racist or homophobic or even hate speech when all the time they are doing exactly what they say you shouldnt do like attacking Trump is a perfect example.

So free speech should be just that and not politicised, because if you do then you are guilty of your own crime........like trying to stop Ricky Gervais saying what he thinks for example.

alchemist33

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

Regardless ..........what he told them was the truth. Basically he told them they are no one special and know nothing about the real world which is true.

So before anybody comments on a subject it is best to have some knowledge of what you are rattling on about before opening mouth. Unfortunately most celebs are not intelligent enough to work that out when they lecture us on what we must do, think, behave, etc, etc, etc.

Does this apply to people on internet forums too?

Boredstiff666

alchemist33 wrote: »

Does this apply to people on internet forums too?

I think so but internet forums have rules so........

Dots1982

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

Well I have never heard that before, but communists do that. Take Russia or USSR and China, then North Korea etc are perfect examples.

Socialists try to stop free speech by labeling it as racist or homophobic or even hate speech when all the time they are doing exactly what they say you shouldnt do like attacking Trump is a perfect example.

So free speech should be just that and not politicised, because if you do then you are guilty of your own crime........like trying to stop Ricky Gervais saying what he thinks for example.

Gervais is free to express his opinion and I’m free to believe that his opinion is a dangerous one if taken to it’s ultimate conclusion.

Boredstiff666

Dots1982 wrote: »

Gervais is free to express his opinion and I’m free to believe that his opinion is a dangerous one I’d taken to it’s ultimate conclusion.

Agreed but what if what he said was true? Then you have a problem.

johnny_ultimate

Mod note: There are other forums for all your takes on current affairs and political ideologies. This is a film forum, so please keep the discussion focused on that, thanks!

pixelburp

Well, I guess this is what the Golden Globes wanted; they knew full well what Gervais would bring - again - and sure enough he was as obnoxious as always, within ones given reservoir of patience for his brand of comedy. Fool me once, shame on you is how the saying goes, but at this stage we're the bigger fools for even acknowledging this very public trolling.

TBH, I found it rich that someone happy to mouth off about all topics, court his celebrity friends in productions, and working for Netflix, would have the brass neck to stand in front of Hollywood and rap knuckles for talking on politics, or working for streaming services. Gervais is not the hurler on the ditch anymore, he's as much part of the Hollywood system as any of those being poked.

El Duda

What Gervais did last night was daring, ballsy and brilliant.

@Pixelburp

Your last paragraph says to me that you're missing the point that it was just jokes. I wouldn't take his comments about Amazon etc... seriously. He wasn't trying to take a moral high ground, just setting up his material.

My twitter feed this morning had a lot of my favourite stand ups applauding his efforts. That's the way to do that type of comedy in 2020. No holds barred. Straight for the jugular. Be as offensive as possible.

Ipso

Dots1982 wrote: »

Subjugation of the individual’s rights and freedoms through the crushing of any opposition

He's a private individual not a government, subjugation doesn't come into it. Given Rose McGowan's and Ava DuVernay's recent tweets, a bit of advice from Rick wouldn't have went astray.

The White Wolf

The media are such ****; Phoenix wins best actor but instead of the coverage being about his achievement, it's about how his speech was **** and other digs to cover their bitterness over him winning over their preferred pick.

JP Liz V1

Tom Hanks gets the Cecil B. DeMille Award (Presented by Charlize Theron)

Charlize is a strange choice to present to Tom, why not Meryl, Sally, Julia, Ron, Robin, Tim or Denzel

BorneTobyWilde

Not a frown on a single forehead, the Botox alone for the Golden Globes must have cost a fortune.

blue note

AllForIt wrote: »

From all accounts Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is just average. I was never a Tarantino movie fan anyway. Blokey movies !

Not all accounts. I thought it was great and spoke to a few people who share that view. My sister being one, but mainly blokes. His films do appeal more to boys, but I don't see much wrong with that.

Fleabag is very much a girls show. I've only seen a couple of episodes and I have to admit I thought it was brilliant, a rare example of something that lives up to the hype. But it's definitely a girls show.

And I think Ricky is brilliant at these awards. Hollywood is an incredibly hypocritical industry and it's hard to listen to them preaching at times. I'd heard all about Harvey weinstein and I'm an accountant in Dublin. The chances of everyone in Hollywood not knowing about him are zero. But for years he was a route up success so they turned a blind eye, or even played the casting couch game to get ahead. And for the past couple of years they're all shocked and appalled and now that they've officially heard about it they can't do nothing. It's hilarious to see it thrown in their faces.

santana75

Joaquin Phoenix's speech was painful to watch. He was baked off his box. Brad pitt on the other hand was the epitome of class. He came across like an absolute gentleman.
Loved Ricky Gervais jokes, he made most people in that room very uncomfortable which is a great thing. The truth can be a painful thing to hear and a lot of them do not like the truth.

JP Liz V1

santana75 wrote: »

Joaquin Phoenix's speech was painful to watch. He was baked off his box. Brad pitt on the other hand was the epitome of class. He came across like an absolute gentleman.
Loved Ricky Gervais jokes, he made most people in that room very uncomfortable which is a great thing. The truth can be a painful thing to hear and a lot of them do not like the truth.

Was Angelina Jolie there, a few of Brad's exs were he looked good too

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

CatFromHue wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KermodeMovie/status/1204519135226552324

Kermode giving his 2pence

Kermode really needs to learn how to form an opinion. What a wallflower. :pac:

pixelburp

He's right though, the competition is a farce, Gervais there purely for the viral element & controversy his known brand of humour would generate.

It's worth reminding that The Martian won a Globe in 2016 for "best comedy or musical". These awards ceremonies are pure puffery at the best of times, but the Golden Globes arguably the lesser of the two big American ones.

trashcan

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Not a frown on a single forehead, the Botox alone for the Golden Globes must have cost a fortune.

Just on that, Quentin Tarantino looked basically plastic faced to me.

santana75

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Not a frown on a single forehead, the Botox alone for the Golden Globes must have cost a fortune.

How they'll all look in 20 years time is the stuff of nightmares.

pixelburp

pixelburp wrote: »

He's right though, the competition is a farce, Gervais there purely for the viral element & controversy his known brand of humour would generate.

It's worth reminding that The Martian won a Globe in 2016 for "best comedy or musical". These awards ceremonies are pure puffery at the best of times, but the Golden Globes arguably the lesser of the two big American ones.

I would have shared that view before at least after the last few years, but having seen most of the stuff nominated and seeing Crow, Succession and Brian Cox win for shows that were by far the best of the year in my opinion, gives me faith that at least the TV results were legit and very much worthy of the awards. Coleman was outstanding in the crown, Zellweger gave a career best as Judy. The awards pretty much hit the mark this year.

PressRun

Brian Cox's win was the best of the night for me. He said in the press room after getting his award that it was the best moment of his career. A man who had a really tough upbringing, truly came from nothing, and as he said himself, felt his time had passed. He got the role of a lifetime in his 70s. It is a great moment for him, even if the Golden Globes are bs.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

PressRun wrote: »

Brian Cox's win was the best of the night for me. He said in the press room after getting his award that it was the best moment of his career. A man who had a really tough upbringing, truly came from nothing, and as he said himself, felt his time had passed. He got the role of a lifetime in his 70s. It is a great moment for him, even if the Golden Globes are bs.

It was like Ruth Gordon winning an Oscar for her part in ‘Rosemary’s Baby’ in her 70s and saying in her speech: “I can't tell you how encouragin' a thing like this is.” :pac:

fryup

santana75 wrote: »

Joaquin Phoenix's speech was painful to watch. He was baked off his box.

was he high? or just nervous?

El Duda

fryup wrote: »

was he high? or just nervous?

Worse. He was in character.