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Annual Leave and Maternity Leave

  • 24-11-2019 7:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭


    Hi Everyone,

    My wife is currently on maternity leave. She went on her 26 weeks paid maternity in March and is now on unpaid. She has agreed with her employer to return to work in January.

    She didn't take any annual leave in the months this year prior to starting maternity leave, and as such has her 20 days plus bank holidays owed to her.
    She asked her employer if she could carry these days and take them next year (at least some days if all isn't an option) , but she was told no, she would be paid for them at the end of the year.

    I understand you cannot be paid off for annual leave, under normal circumstances at least. I also understand a lot of companies have a policy that you cannot carry annual leave.
    The two things seem to clash here in this instance.


    I have searched a bit on Google but I cannot find anything regarding this situation.

    Has anyone experienced this, it must be quiet common?
    Any advice would be great.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    Why not take some holidays instead of unpaid leave?

    The employer is not supposed to buy leave off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    You cannot be paid for accrued PTO you must take it in the year that it is earned/accrued

    What you (she) should have done was take the PTO before the unpaid mat leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭171170


    Why not ask the experts?

    https://www.workplacerelations.ie/en/what_you_should_know/leave/annual-leave/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    ELM327 wrote: »
    You cannot be paid for accrued PTO you must take it in the year that it is earned/accrued

    What you (she) should have done was take the PTO before the unpaid mat leave.

    16 weeks unpaid leave must start immediately after the statutory leave, you can't take annual leave in between.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    16 weeks unpaid leave must start immediately after the statutory leave, you can't take annual leave in between.
    Ah. I didnt know that... another reason to ask the experts in the post above :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Do I lose annual leave?
    No. Your annual leave continues to build up as normal while you’re
    on both the standard maternity leave and the additional unpaid
    maternity leave.

    Do I lose public holidays?
    No. If you are on maternity leave and additional unpaid maternity
    leave you are entitled to be credited for any public holiday that occurs
    during your leave.

    You must be given either an extra day’s pay or a set paid day off
    within a month, or an extra day’s annual leave for every public holiday
    that occurred during your leave. This also applies if your employer
    continues to give you full pay during your leave.

    see here
    https://www.workplacerelations.ie/en/publications_forms/guide_to_maternity_protection_acts.pdf



    It doesn't specifically answer your question but I'd be surprised if employers could just void annual leave of a woman on maternity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    ELM327 wrote: »
    You cannot be paid for accrued PTO you must take it in the year that it is earned/accrued

    What you (she) should have done was take the PTO before the unpaid mat leave.

    That’s not allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭hickory


    I did what your wife wants to do as in I carried some of the leave rather than get paid for it. I think I got paid for 75% and carried the rest. I think it depends on how much your wife wants to carry alot of employers dont want someone to have 40 days holidays. At first Hr didnt want to let me but I argued given maternity leave was protected leave I couldnt be forced to take them. They agreed but then I had to ensure they didnt expire them so our work place let's u carry 5 but they expire at 31st of March so again I had to ensure they didnt apply that rule in this case. I eventually got there with them but not sure if they had to let me or I just argued well. It definitely seemed like no one had requested this before


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