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References Help

  • 19-11-2019 1:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭


    So I have passed the 1st round of interviews with a company, 2nd round next week. If that is successful then references and medical...

    My problem is i have only 1 reference...

    My history:
    1st Job 6 years - Have Reference
    2nd Job 6.5 hears - Have no Reference because i left due to an untenable workplace environment(Worked under the same 2 Managers/Team Leads, during my entire time, they were the reason i left)

    Its a job i really want, as its great pay, with good benefits(pension, health insurance, bonuses etc). Also in a field that is growing quiet fast in Ireland so plenty of opportunities down the road...

    Really stressed about the lack of references, despite my prep for the 2nd interview going very well...


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    Does it state it has to be a reference from a previous employer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Does it state it has to be a reference from a previous employer?

    Yeah it states employment references


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    This would be very unusual. Most employers will only state your time there and your role irrespective of how you performed. Either way I would request a letter from the job showing your years there and your role. For actual references could you include a letter from a club or something you volunteer with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    This would be very unusual. Most employers will only state your time there and your role irrespective of how you performed. Either way I would request a letter from the job showing your years there and your role. For actual references could you include a letter from a club or something you volunteer with.

    I do know someone who works for a charity, i could always ask them to provide a character reference...

    In my experience of providing references, I always get asked

    "If you had the opportunity to hire them again would you be happy to do so?"

    I've been asked this 3 times in the last few weeks, a former colleague has me has her reference.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    You don't have to have a supervisor as a reference, it could be someone you worked with on a project or a peer or a manager from another department.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    I do know someone who works for a charity, i could always ask them to provide a character reference...

    In my experience of providing references, I always get asked

    "If you had the opportunity to hire them again would you be happy to do so?"

    I've been asked this 3 times in the last few weeks, a former colleague has me has her reference.

    Might depend on the industry I guess. Part of my contract states I cannot provide references in a personal capacity relating to the time someone worked in the company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Clareman wrote: »
    You don't have to have a supervisor as a reference, it could be someone you worked with on a project or a peer or a manager from another department.

    In my 6.5 years, I've had the same Manager and Business Manager...

    Basically the company is structured like

    Business Manager(Over the Whole Island of Ireland)
    Manager(Responsible for a specific store)
    Me(Deputy Manager for my specific store)

    Have never worked under another manager, as when i worked in different locations, I was the relief manager...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    Not having a reference from your last place of employment may look strange.


    If you are on bad terms and get a reference from them it may be the bare minimum i.e. they'll just confirm your role/dates of employment and no more. This is may be a red flag to your new employer.


    So something to consider: get ahead of it, explain to your new employer that you didn't leave on great terms and why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    In my 6.5 years, I've had the same Manager and Business Manager...

    Basically the company is structured like

    Business Manager(Over the Whole Island of Ireland)
    Manager(Responsible for a specific store)
    Me(Deputy Manager for my specific store)

    Have never worked under another manager, as when i worked in different locations, I was the relief manager...

    Get a reference from a colleague who is prepared to pretend or at least imply that they were your manager.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Get a reference from a colleague who is prepared to pretend or at least imply that they were your manager.

    Was thinking of that, but would rather not lie...But i may have to:(


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    I do know someone who works for a charity, i could always ask them to provide a character reference.

    Don't, as you have had a few jobs, it screams I have a reference problem....


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Get a reference from a colleague who is prepared to pretend or at least imply that they were your manager.

    Don't ask someone to lie for you, it's insulting to them and may get them in trouble with their employer. A simple call to reception asking to speak to Joe Blogs, he is one of your managers is enough to cause issues.

    Simply get them to write a personal reference starting with something along the lines of "I met and got to know Joe Blogs, while working at the Mickey Mouse Company....." and then go on to address all the usual stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Was thinking of that, but would rather not lie...But i may have to:(

    Did your past company have a HR Department?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Did your past company have a HR Department?

    Yes its a small team who will only ever correspond via email...literally took me 3 months to get a small issue sorted a few months before i left...absolute nightmare

    You can ring a customer service number and eventually get them to connect you, but the likelihood of them answering is quiet low...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Contact HR and request a reference to confirm that you were an employee from start date to end date. That should be fine


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