Do you believe in a soul?

Wanderer2010

Do you believe that something inside you, a spirit or soul, lives on forever after you pass, whatever plane that may be in? Or do you think when you die, your brain and heart shut down and that's the end of your consciousness, its all over?

Whether or not you believe in God, nothing in the material world is permanent. Cities crumble, civilisations turn to dust. Do you think your inner soul is a permanent thing?

BDI

Nope, but I’m open to being proven wrong.

the beer revolu

No.

Duke of Url

Nope. I believe when you’re dead it’s game over.

El_Duderino 09

No, of course not. Apart from the fact that lots of people want it to be true, there’s absolutely no reason to think it’s true.

Nope. Either everything has a soul or nothing does. Find it hard to believe that there was a day in evolution when the soul appeared and gave a big enough advantage that it stuck around.

ZX7R

The energy in your body can neither be created or destroyed it can change or be transferred,so if you want to call this energy a soul then yes I believe.
It could actually explain a lot when you think about it....

the beer revolu

ZX7R wrote: »

The energy in your body can neither be created or destroyed it can change or be transferred,so if you want to call this energy a soul then yes I believe.
It could actually explain a lot when you think about it....

A cabbage also has calorific energy.
Does a cabbage have a soul?
If not, why not?

Your Face

When it comes to consciousness I tend not to assume the certainty of its nature.

Silentcorner

I think we have deeply innate behaviour's that we are not really cognisant of or have an ability to articulate, the further we drift from the important behaviour's the greater the risk of anxiety or forms of depression or misery, those behaviours can be a concoction of group activites, community participation, the importance of personal responsibility, sexual behaviour, the manifestation of talent...I'm sure there are more, but in a commercialised world full of free choice we are vulnerable to external forces that attempt to force behaviour in manners that are not always healthy!

Would I call it a soul...I don't have an issue calling it a soul...it is where we find deeper meaning in life...it's also beautiful!

Potential-Monke

the beer revolu wrote: »

A cabbage also has calorific energy.
Does a cabbage have a soul?
If not, why not?

Well, lettuce does scream* when you cut/eat it, so if that's true it would indicate a soul, and why wouldn't their leafier cousins have one too?

*As in they release gases which are the equivalent of screaming, apparantly

frag420

Yes, but I'm not a soldier...

Bobblehats

Mmmm... hot buttered soul

El_Duderino 09

ZX7R wrote: »

The energy in your body can neither be created or destroyed it can change or be transferred,so if you want to call this energy a soul then yes I believe.
It could actually explain a lot when you think about it....

Explains things like what? The energy in a body is no different to a carrot. When it dies, it rots.

Are we talking about energy like calories or energy in the spiritual sense?

Silentcorner

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Explains things like what? The energy in a body is no different to a carrot. When it dies, it rots.

Are we talking about energy like calories or energy in the spiritual sense?

You have the depth of a plank of wood!

2pacshakur

I believe the devil has more power than God, giving children and adults cancer.

Should we be worshipping the devil and not God and he might let us live longer?

Bobblehats

I believe in the spirit.
There must be some kind of miracle

ZX7R

the beer revolu wrote: »

A cabbage also has calorific energy.
Does a cabbage have a soul?
If not, why not?

If you read my post I said if you or people want to call this energy a soul ,
Then yes I believe in a soul and yes while energy is in a living thing yes I believe it has a soul.
Where's the problem with that...

ZX7R

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Explains things like what? The energy in a body is no different to a carrot. When it dies, it rots.

Are we talking about energy like calories or energy in the spiritual sense?

Yes as it rots the energy is changed so in essence the soul of the carrot is been transferred to the Earth

igCorcaigh

No one can account for consciousness from a physicalist perspective, so it's an open question.

The word soul is very loaded though.

high_king

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Well, lettuce does scream* when you cut/eat it, so if that's true it would indicate a soul, and why wouldn't their leafier cousins have one too?

*As in they release gases which are the equivalent of screaming, apparantly

Serial Vegan Murderer

Donnielighto

ZX7R wrote: »

Yes as it rots the energy is changed so in essence the soul of the carrot is been transferred to the Earth

Uranium has a soul?

Donnielighto

igCorcaigh wrote: »

No one can account for consciousness from a physicalist perspective, so it's an open question.

The word soul is very loaded though.

You mean like sentience?

Complex enough computer becomes sentient. That's effectively what I see our brains as.

igCorcaigh

Donnielighto wrote: »

You mean like sentience?

Complex enough computer becomes sentient. That's effectively what I see our brains as.

There is no theory of how that happens. It's an assumption. Could very well be the case, but how? I think until we have a convincing theory of consciousness then the question of the soul will always be clouded in superstition.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

The question should be if you believe in an immortal soul.

Soul or psyche is defined the mental abilities of a living being - such as reason, feeling, consciousness, memory, character, perception, thinking and so on. Depending on your philosophical or religious belief, a soul can either be mortal or immortal.

high_king

Mina Attractive Rum wrote: »

The question should be if you believe in an immortal soul.

Soul or psyche is defined the mental abilities of a living being - such as reason, feeling, consciousness, memory, character, perception, thinking and so on. Depending on your philosophical or religious belief, a soul can either be mortal or immortal.

well do you or not ?

Donnielighto

igCorcaigh wrote: »

There is no theory of how that happens. It's an assumption. Could very well be the case, but how? I think until we have a convincing theory of consciousness then the question of the soul will always be clouded in superstition.

Filling in the blanks with something that has no backup would be wrong imo. Plenty of animals have thoughts and reasoning and the higher power brains have self awareness so while he mechanism isn't clear the correlation is there.

Being soulless doesn't mean there is no meaning to life.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

high_king wrote: »

well do you or not ?

Of course I believe I have a soul. It's immortality or otherwise is uncertain.

high_king

Mina Attractive Rum wrote: »

Of course I believe I have a soul. It's immortality or otherwise is uncertain.

Yes but do you believe in it's immortality or not ?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

high_king wrote: »

Yes but do you believe in it's immortality or not ?

Read the reply. :rolleyes:

El_Duderino 09

ZX7R wrote: »

Yes as it rots the energy is changed so in essence the soul of the carrot is been transferred to the Earth

If that all we mean then why not just say that? Why invoke the idea of a soul?

i used to
then i got older and freaked out at the thought of non existence a lot
and realised that i don't really believe it

nocoverart

We are all made of “Star Stuff” and I believe there’s something beyond our understanding out there in the Universe, what that is I do not know.

Tell me how

I believe we are still in a place where we know less than what we don't know.
Does our soul exist? My engineering head says no, probably, but my inquisitive mind says I'm not so sure.
I think that some of the thoughts, emotions and feelings we have are greater than simple physics so maybe they are connected to the validity and viability of there being a soul.

mzungu

Soul died with Otis Redding.

high_king

Mina Attractive Rum wrote: »

Read the reply. :rolleyes:

I did, please answer the question, do you believe in an immortal soul or not.

You said you believed you had soul, but did not specify if you believe you have an immortal soul or not. Of course beliefs are not certain, no belief is, you were asked your belief, not what is certain.

2pacshakur

Gingers do have ...... Souls

**** you south park

MrAbyss

Yes, but not in the Abrahamic or Christian sense.

It is a part of our non material bodies that acts as something of a software program running us. How it works or comes about I do not care. I have just seen enough to know it exists. It is the 'life' essence within us. I can go to the health food store and most body building protein shakes have everything in them to create life. But they are not alive because there is no soul present and that is the underlying incorporeal element behind 'life' and consciousness. Another of the universe's mysteries.

and you do not have to be religious to know this.

branie2

Yes, I do

Mad_maxx

I used to have a soul

Fourier

igCorcaigh wrote: »

No one can account for consciousness from a physicalist perspective, so it's an open question.

The word soul is very loaded though.

This would be my view as well, similar to what Srameen said. There is a soul in the sense of having qualia/first person perceptions and experiences and such first person experiences don't have a scientific explanation as of yet. I have some doubts that it will ever have a precise scientific description, but I'm not certain about that.

I don't think it's obvious that a complex enough computer will automatically have consciousness either. True AI, if it is possible, might require something more than just making the algorithms faster and more general. I don't think the evidence for consciousness being just an algorithm is very strong.

The question then as Srameen said is whether this Soul is immortal. Widespread belief that it is immortal is a fairly recent thing, most ancient peoples either thought it was recycled for new life or simply came apart upon death. Personally I'd side with it not existing after death.

decky1

Have spoken about this before here Mediums etc, i did not believe in this till my daughters visited a medium some time ago , she could tell them things that only the family knew, only last night there was one in our town a sort of public reading --people gathered and if a departed contacted her she would talk in public to them[not ideal i thought] i did not attend but my friend whose brother had died in the last month attended, she told him all about his brother +his departed mother right down to the way she talked[very softly] she also told a family about something that had happened over 30 years ago in connection with their family, they denied it so she spoke off mic to them this seemed to change their attitude. I know a lot of people think this is a set up but from personal experience i think it's true.it's just a mystery to us now , as is 'How did life begin in the first place' i think we'll know someday.

Say my name

ZX7R wrote: »

The energy in your body can neither be created or destroyed it can change or be transferred,so if you want to call this energy a soul then yes I believe.
It could actually explain a lot when you think about it....

And I wonder would emotion be a way of that being, transferring that energy outwards and thoughts be the opposite and transferring that energy inwards.
Then to further complicate it do objects, places, buildings, earth, whatever catch and store some of that emotion, energy given off and give it back again if the correct receptical is nearby and able to transfer it back to thoughts or emotions.


I'm not sure where that came from.
But people do claim to get feelings and emotions from things or whatever.

the culture of deference

If you believe in souls why would you need a physical body?


how much of your personality is tied to your appearance?

ZX7R

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If that all we mean then why not just say that? Why invoke the idea of a soul?

I didn't I didn't invoke the idea of a soul, that idea has been around longer than both of us to be fair.
The op ask do people believe in a soul on what ever plane
My answer is yes I have a soul as in the energy in the body it will never die or be destroyed
Your answer is no witch is a fair belief also,
But why do you feel the need to douth my belief ,
The one thing in life I learned with people if they need to question attack others beliefs it shows insecurities in there own

ILoveYourVibes

Bobblehats wrote: »

Mmmm... hot buttered soul

You are what you eat.

Look after your soul and your soul will look after you.

All day I think about it, then at night I say it. Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing? I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I\'m sure of that, And I intend to end up there.
This drunkenness began in some other tavern. When I get back around to that place, I\'ll be completely sober. Meanwhile, I\'m like a bird from another continent, sitting in this aviary. The day is coming when I fly off, But who is it now in my ear who hears my voice? Who says words with my mouth?
Who looks out with my eyes? What is the soul? I cannot stop asking.
If I could taste one sip of an answer, I could break out of this prison for drunks. I didn\'t come here of my own accord, and I can\'t leave that way. Whoever brought me here will have to take me home.
This poetry. I never know what I\'m going to say. I don\'t plan it. When I\'m outside the saying of it, I get very quiet and rarely speak at all.
We have a huge barrel of wine, but no cups. That\'s fine with us. Every morning We glow and in the evening we glow again.
They say there\'s no future for us. They\'re right.
Which is fine with us.
--Rumi

To the people of redcar who cared about the people of northern ireland ...and understood their representative was needed. THAT IS SOUL.
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Bobblehats

That’s the spirit!

railer201

Yes, and currently I'm stuck inside a robot - let me out ! :eek:

ZX7R

Say my name wrote: »

And I wonder would emotion be a way of that being, transferring that energy outwards and thoughts be the opposite and transferring that energy inwards.
Then to further complicate it do objects, places, buildings, earth, whatever catch and store some of that emotion, energy given off and give it back again if the correct receptical is nearby and able to transfer it back to thoughts or emotions.


I'm not sure where that came from.
But people do claim to get feelings and emotions from things or whatever.

It would definitely explain a lot.

IAMAMORON

I think everyone is another reproduction in the human race. Your fathers fathers fathers father .... you are a direct line on History. You only exist beacuse of it, there is no other way fathomable.

So it is highly possible that your genes carry characteristics that could develop regardless of your phenotype.

Not totally sure about souls, but it is plausible. Instincts exist.

The chan chan man

ZX7R wrote: »

The energy in your body can neither be created or destroyed it can change or be transferred,so if you want to call this energy a soul then yes I believe.
It could actually explain a lot when you think about it....

Absolutely. As much as I would love to believe in the fairytale, and i really do want to, it just makes no sense. We’re probably at this stage too smart for our own good in one sense.

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration”. - Nikola Tesla