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ERCC: Ospreys vs Munster, Sat 16th Nov 5:30pm, BT Sport

  • 15-11-2019 1:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Ospreys:
    15. Cai Evans
    14. Hanno Dirksen
    13. Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler
    12. Scott Williams
    11. Tom Williams
    10. Luke Price
    9. Shaun Venter

    1.Rhodri Jones
    2.Scott Otten
    3. Ma’afu Fia
    4.Marvin Orie
    5. Lloyd Ashley
    6. Dan Lydiate ©
    7.Olly Cracknell
    8. Morgan Morris

    Replacements
    16. Ifan Phillips
    17. Nicky Smith
    18. Gheorghe Gajion
    19. Bradley Davies
    20. Sam Cross
    21.Aled Davies
    22. James Hook
    23. Kieran Williams

    The following players were unavailable for selection:
    Adam Beard, Alun Wyn Jones, Bradley Davies, George North, Justin Tipuric and Owen Watkin.

    The following players were unavailable for selection due to injury:
    Gareth Anscombe
    Harri Morgan
    Cory Allen
    Dan Evans
    James King
    Rhys Henry
    Ben Glynn
    Luke Morgan
    Keelan Giles
    Sam Parry
    Gareth Evans

    Munster:
    Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray;
    Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Tommy O’Donnell, CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Tadhg Beirne, Arno Botha, Alby Mathewson, Sammy Arnold, Dan Goggin.

    Dave Kilcoyne's injury allows Jeremy Loughman to get the start at loosehead in a surprise selection over James Cronin. Kleyn and Holland start in the second row with Beirne in reserve. All eyes on Tyler Bleyendaal who gets the nod at 10 with Carbery and Hanrahan unavailable. Rory Scannell will act as the backup outhalf.

    No internationals available for the Ospreys so this really has to be a BP win for Munster. On paper this should be a routine victory.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Saracens have named a weakened side alright.

    This pool is set up for Munster. BP win tomorrow and a win over Racing next weekend and we're in business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭ aloooof


    Saracens have named a weakened side alright.

    This pool is set up for Munster. BP win tomorrow and a win over Racing next weekend and we're in business.

    Familiar looking name, but Manu Vunipola must be there 5th, 6th choice 10 in practice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ td1


    Hoping for a good start tomorrow to set up a lively 'welcome home' for Zeebs and Donnacha! Slightly off topic, but are any of you MRSC members still waiting on your membership packs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    Munster should be getting a bonus point win, Osprey are a mess at the moment.

    This group is falling apart quickly if Saracens are going to throw it. Munster should be aiming for top spot with home qtr and semi


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭ aloooof


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Munster should be getting a bonus point win, Osprey are a mess at the moment.

    This group is falling apart quickly if Saracens are going to throw it. Munster should be aiming for top spot with home qtr and semi

    From what looked like the group of death when the draw was made, it's quickly become very winnable for Munster. Having Saracens at home first in the back-to-backs is advantageous as well. Throw in Racing's poor start to the season too. A bonus point win this weekend, and a win over Racing next and we'd been in very good shape.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    aloooof wrote: »
    From what looked like the group of death when the draw was made, it's quickly become very winnable for Munster. Having Saracens at home first in the back-to-backs is advantageous as well. Throw in Racing's poor start to the season too. A bonus point win this weekend, and a win over Racing next and we'd been in very good shape.


    It is funny how things work out, Racing and Saracens who would normally be the English and French clubs to concentrate on both competition might swap to concentrate only on their respective leagues, no harm to Osprey but they are not going to do much.



    It's Munster to lose, a HC final in Montpellier v Lsinter would be nice


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,221 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Ospreys lost a home game to the bleedin Kings!! Munster should be looking to win by at least 30.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭ John_Mc


    td1 wrote: »
    Hoping for a good start tomorrow to set up a lively 'welcome home' for Zeebs and Donnacha! Slightly off topic, but are any of you MRSC members still waiting on your membership packs?

    Mine arrived this morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ BIGT4464


    Saracens have named a weakened side alright.

    This pool is set up for Munster. BP win tomorrow and a win over Racing next weekend and we're in business.

    Saracens havent picked that weak a team it seems, although main Internationals are all missing. Racing to win easy.

    Munster BP win


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭ BIGT4464


    A win over Racing next week will not be easy. But I feel we can do it with the crowd behind us. SUAF


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,558 ✭✭✭✭ 2smiggy


    I'd be happy to get a win away this week , before talking about winning next week !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,622 ✭✭✭✭ phog


    In the Heineken Cup you have to win your 3 home games then go looking for any point you can get in the away games.

    A win tomorrow will be a great start to our cup season.

    It's a bit of a kick in the teeth to the Ospreys that they are being forced to sit out their Internationals, no wonder some Welsh fans never got behind the idea of regions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    phog wrote: »
    In the Heineken Cup you have to win your 3 home games then go looking for any point you can get in the away games.

    A win tomorrow will be a great start to our cup season.

    It's a bit of a kick in the teeth to the Ospreys that they are being forced to sit out their Internationals, no wonder some Welsh fans never got behind the idea of regions.

    Tomorrow isn't really looking for any point we can get territory. Ospreys are down a huge amount of players and the forecast looks decent.
    Anything less than 5 points isn't an acceptable outcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    phog wrote: »
    In the Heineken Cup you have to win your 3 home games then go looking for any point you can get in the away games.

    A win tomorrow will be a great start to our cup season.

    It's a bit of a kick in the teeth to the Ospreys that they are being forced to sit out their Internationals, no wonder some Welsh fans never got behind the idea of regions.

    The issue there isnt the regions. It's the stupid and pointless 3rd place playoff. I'd imagine of not for that they'd have at least some back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭ Buer


    I actually thought Munster would have it tough enough tomorrow but I didn't realise that no RWC player would feature for the Ospreys. It makes a mockery of the tournament somewhat but Munster should grab the opportunity with both hands.

    There's a very realistic situation where the Ospreys, Saracens and Racing have all lost 2 of their first 3 games if the selection policies continue.

    I suspect Saracens will improve their selection significantly by round 3, however. Regardless of their comments, they're going to give it a shot and will want to make some sort of effort to defend their title. But two defeats in the opening three rounds seems quite a strong possibility for them giving Munster a huge change of securing qualification and a home knock out match.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,622 ✭✭✭✭ phog


    Tomorrow isn't really looking for any point we can get territory. Ospreys are down a huge amount of players and the forecast looks decent.
    Anything less than 5 points isn't an acceptable outcome.

    If we had the coaching setup in place earlier or if we didn't have the WC this year and the full squad was in preseason I'd be a 100% in agreement with you. But seeing some of the errors we're making and not being able to get a BP win against Ulster last week just has me doubtful that a BP win tomorrow is a gimmie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    phog wrote: »
    If we had the coaching setup in place earlier or if we didn't have the WC this year and the full squad was in preseason I'd be a 100% in agreement with you. But seeing some of the errors we're making and not being able to get a BP win against Ulster last week just has me doubtful that a BP win tomorrow is a gimmie.

    We're 17 point favourites at the bookies for a reason.
    Ospreys are not Ulster. There's a malaise around the team and you only need to read the reactions to the Ospreys' lineup announcement to see it. They are down a crazy amount of players. There's really no excuse why Munster shouldn't secure the maximum today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    phog wrote: »
    If we had the coaching setup in place earlier or if we didn't have the WC this year and the full squad was in preseason I'd be a 100% in agreement with you. But seeing some of the errors we're making and not being able to get a BP win against Ulster last week just has me doubtful that a BP win tomorrow is a gimmie.

    Osprey are a mess, if Munster don’t get a bonus point they shouldn’t be thinking of winning the competition


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭ pappyodaniel


    Loughman's form has been very good of late so it's nice to see him rewarded with a start in a big game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,371 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    Yeah, Ospreys are a shambles. There isnt a huge difference between this Ospreys selection and the one Munster got the TBP win over a few weeks back. The Munster selection on the other hand is markedly stronger with Scannell, Kleyn, Beirne, POM, Stander, Murray, Farrell, Earls and Conway all back. This has to he a 5 pointer. If it isn't then Munster would need to be asking serious questions of themselves. They are more than good enough to win this very comfortably.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭ Bassfish


    Anyone know if highlights are being broadcast free to air anywhere? None on tg4 tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    Bassfish wrote: »
    Anyone know if highlights are being broadcast free to air anywhere? None on tg4 tonight.

    Virgin have the rights now


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭ baas baa


    Good to see Loughman getting a start, thought he was the standout forward in his u20s crop but the attempted shift to TH gave his career a stuttering start. One of the younger crop of looseheads along with Byrne and O'Sullivan I'm hopeful will push on and transition to test level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    Have BT hired all RTÉ people for Ireland province games?


  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭ Bassfish


    Virgin have the rights now

    Just saw there's a highlights show on Monday night on Virgin Media, way too long after the fact!


  • Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭ AlfaZen


    Some strange decisions from the referee already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,558 ✭✭✭✭ 2smiggy


    Warns them against dummying at the base, yet still gives them the penalty. Very odd


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ScrubsfanChris


    Shocking pass from Haley


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,221 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Shocking pass from Haley

    Yep. But not just from him either. There was a pass to Bleyendall that was basically lobbed in the air to him and he did very well to catch it. Slowed down that backline move a lot before it ever got to Haley.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,999 ✭✭✭ kuang1


    Why is Stephen Merchant in the commentary booth?


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