They're back. First if the election posters have appeared.

kneemos

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Wexford_by-election

The runners and riders.

Eggs For Dinner

What a miserable choice. However, the winner will be better than what is being replaced

kneemos

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

What a miserable choice. However, the winner will be better than what is being replaced

Wallace has disappeared into MEP black hole,never to be heard of again...till the next election.

is_that_so

So is this Byrne v Mythen or do the Greens have a hope?

is_that_so

kneemos wrote: »

Wallace has disappeared into MEP black hole,never to be heard of again...till the next election.

Next election will be inside of 6 months. I'd say he's gone completely. Taxes to be paid you know!

Del.Monte

is_that_so wrote: »

So is this Byrne v Mythen or do the Greens have a hope?

Karin Dubsky is well known in Dublin but I can't see the Greens having a prayer as country people don't seem get the whole climate change/environment thing. It will be between Mythen and Byrne i.e. more of the same old ****e.

gmurphy70

Del.Monte wrote: »

Karin Dubsky is well known in Dublin but I can't see the Greens having a prayer as country people don't seem get the whole climate change/environment thing. It will be between Mythen and Byrne i.e. more of the same old ****e.

Country people do get the whole Climate change/environment ****e,that’s why we don’t want the Greens ,a despicable bunch,weren’t they part of a government that brought in the IMF And forced so much debt on us citizens that it will take generations to pay back? You right Wexford keep electing wasters leaving us as an economic black hole...

ShamNNspace

gmurphy70 wrote: »

Country people do get the whole Climate change/environment ****e,that’s why we don’t want the Greens ,a despicable bunch,weren’t they part of a government that brought in the IMF And forced so much debt on us citizens that it will take generations to pay back? You right Wexford keep electing wasters leaving us as an economic black hole...

+ "country people" have been recycling long long before it before it became fashionable. We understand Too well that's the thing

McLoughlin

People Before Profit are also running a candidate Cinnamon Blackmore

RadioRetro

The first canvassers knocked on my door half an hour ago, Byrne's boys. Leaflet's in the recycling bin.

Marhay70

I can see I'll only have one preference this time too, what a miserable choice we have. Who are this "Irish Freedom" crowd, another fcuking dissident rabble I presume?

Del.Monte

Marhay70 wrote: »

I can see I'll only have one preference this time too, what a miserable choice we have. Who are this "Irish Freedom" crowd, another fcuking dissident rabble I presume?

Just a bunch of nutters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Freedom_Party

Eggs For Dinner

You shouldn't have to resort to picking the lesser gob****e on the ballot paper. Politics in Ireland is broken

gmurphy70

Marhay70 wrote: »

I can see I'll only have one preference this time too, what a miserable choice we have. Who are this "Irish Freedom" crowd, another fcuking dissident rabble I presume?

Don’t know who they are but we do need something different/new,especially in Wexford,an economic black hole and the establishment parties and candidates here need to get a kick up the arse,be it a protest vote. Various parts of the Country is beginning to turn into an anti social ****hole. Cork last night was shocking,mob of 100 of new Irish organizing on social media to Rob JD Sports?especially this week in Cork after a bus driver got threatened with rape for asking for the fare.This will be coming to Wexford as well and we need people to stand up for the Citizens as Mainstream media and politicians don’t want to know.RTE never reported this incident,Times are a changing and we need politicians with a back bone.Establishment parties don’t want to rock this boat.

gmurphy70

McLoughlin wrote: »

People Before Profit are also running a candidate Cinnamon Blackmore

and this party is certainly not needed in Wexford

Eggs For Dinner

gmurphy70 wrote: »

Don’t know who they are but we do need something different/new,especially in Wexford,an economic black hole and the establishment parties and candidates here need to get a kick up the arse,be it a protest vote. Various parts of the Country is beginning to turn into an anti social ****hole. Cork last night was shocking,mob of 100 of new Irish organizing on social media to Rob JD Sports?especially this week in Cork after a bus driver got threatened with rape for asking for the fare.This will be coming to Wexford as well and we need people to stand up for the Citizens as Mainstream media and politicians don’t want to know.RTE never reported this incident,Times are a changing and we need politicians with a back bone.Establishment parties don’t want to rock this boat.

If you're talking about the type of rabble Gemma O'Doherty is trying to stir up, I'd rather have the crims take over than have that lot with any sort of say in Government

Marhay70

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

If you're talking about the type of rabble Gemma O'Doherty is trying to stir up, I'd rather have the crims take over than have that lot with any sort of say in Government

What do you mean take over? The crims are already there.

Eggs For Dinner

Marhay70 wrote: »

What do you mean take over? The crims are already there.

They haven't taken over. Yes, there is significant organised criminality going on, but we are still fundamentally lawful

Marhay70

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

They haven't taken over. Yes, there is significant organised criminality going on, but we are still fundamentally lawful

The crims are in the Government is my point. They make the laws, but only for us.

McLoughlin

gmurphy70 wrote: »

and this party is certainly not needed in Wexford

They didn't get much votes either in the local elections the three PBP candidates got around 1000 first preference votes in County Wexford with Cinnamon Blackmore getting less than 500 and they were all one by the 3rd count. Hardly a great template to launch a General Election on.

Corvo

The absolute state of that Irish Freedom Party.

Big Vern

Corvo wrote: »

The absolute state of that Irish Freedom Party.

I seen their election launch on twitter, pictures of the speakers but none of the crowd! Anyone any idea which hotel held this launch? Its just says it was in Wexford.

McLoughlin

Big Vern wrote: »

I seen their election launch on twitter, pictures of the speakers but none of the crowd! Anyone any idea which hotel held this launch? Its just says it was in Wexford.

Had a quick look it's Kilmore don't know name of hotel though

Big Vern

Had a look on their FB page, was in Coast Hotel in Kilmore. I'm pretty sure they would be completely unaware of the type of party IFP are.

Corvo

On the Irish Freedom Party

"Some outlets have linked party leader Hermann Kelly with alt-right ideologies, pointing to a video which Kelly recorded with far-right British Loyalist and former British National Party member Jim Dowson.[3] In the video Kelly endorsed the white nationalist "grand replacement" conspiracy theory.[3][24] This followed a similar interview, in January 2019 with LifeSiteNews, in which Kelly denounced what he called the "great replacement of our children"

Jesus wept.

Big Vern

Strongly thinking of emailing the Hotel to let them know the type of people these are.

vicwatson

Big Vern wrote: »

Strongly thinking of emailing the Hotel to let them know the type of people these are.

It’s owned by Michael Heffernan of Dunnes Stores fame

bruschi

Big Vern wrote: »

Strongly thinking of emailing the Hotel to let them know the type of people these are.

to be honest, I wouldnt bother. I didnt even hear of this crowd nor any launch at a hotel. If something like this was cancelled, it would be all over the media and would increase their profile. As it is, they seem to be still under their rock and majority of people are none the wiser of them. Best leave them there and not give them any exposure.

edit: I see the launch already happened. Just highlights how little exposure they did get so.

Big Vern

bruschi wrote: »

to be honest, I wouldnt bother. I didnt even hear of this crowd nor any launch at a hotel. If something like this was cancelled, it would be all over the media and would increase their profile. As it is, they seem to be still under their rock and majority of people are none the wiser of them. Best leave them there and not give them any exposure.

edit: I see the launch already happened. Just highlights how little exposure they did get so.

Never heard anything about it before or after! As you say, they are prob looking for events to be cancelled to get publicity...their right to free speech is being impinged on!

McLoughlin

Hotels around Wexford don't really care of the politics of an event as long as they are paying customers but recently the Ferrycarrig Hotel cancelled an event by a anti vaccine groups due to public pretest prior to it happening.

bruschi

I think we can safely exclude Verona from winning this one.

is_that_so

bruschi wrote: »

I think we can safely exclude Verona from winning this one.

There is a pattern emerging OK, in two constituencies, candidates who just can't help themselves!:p

woohoo!!!

bruschi wrote: »

I think we can safely exclude Verona from winning this one.

I think she has done herself no harm.

ShaneODub

bruschi wrote: »

I think we can safely exclude Verona from winning this one.

Can we though? A couple of anti-traveller comments boosted Peter Casey from an also-ran to 23% of the national vote. If unemployment in Wexford is as high as I'm reading in these threads, would there not be a sizeable anti-immigration vote for her? Added to that, she's impressive when she's talking about Brexit and haulage issues. (Although now I'm doubting everything she's ever said and wondering if it was just spin and exaggeration to further her arguments.)

Eggs For Dinner

Never underestimate what the silent voter casts on election day. The easily offended PC snowflakes may be vocal but it's still one person, one vote

kneemos

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

Never underestimate what the silent voter casts on election day. The easily offended PC snowflakes may be vocal but it's still one person, one vote

The conservative older vote is even more dominant in by elections due to the normal low turnout.

Might be worth a punt. She's gone to 5/1 or something I think.

Big Vern

Wondering if many have had any callers to their doors. We haven't had one, not even a sorry i missed you!

It all seems so low key and no-one has a interest, seen Jim Codd campaigning on Wexford's Main St on Sat afternoon and that is all ive really seen.

I expect a low turnout

McLoughlin

Big Vern wrote: »

Wondering if many have had any callers to their doors. We haven't had one, not even a sorry i missed you!

It all seems so low key and no-one has a interest, seen Jim Codd campaigning on Wexford's Main St on Sat afternoon and that is all ive really seen.

I expect a low turnout

In Wexford town only answered to Labour but calls from FG and Shinners postal leaflets from FF and Green that's it. I'm conflicted though I want to give Gorgeous George and auld vote but if he does get elected chances are we will get Joe Ryan in the council which isn't what I want nor does Wexford given how he failed to get a local win for the past two local elections.

Malcolm Byrne seems to be concentrating in North Wexford, Jim Codd concentrating in South Wexford targeting the rural FG and FF vote.

I doubt that much of the Wallace protest voter will turn out and Johnny Mythen did well last time in general but did bad in local so gawd knows hoe he will do this time.

McLoughlin

bruschi wrote: »

I think we can safely exclude Verona from winning this one.

She is saying in public what quite a few say in private.

Del.Monte

Only ones I've seen campaigning in Enniscorthy were Aontú. I got cornered by Peadar Tóibín outside Dealz - the closest contact that I've ever knowingly had with an SF supporter or politician - but being a Unionist/Brexiteer/and pro choice I am not his demographic. Instead I'll be going with Karin Dubsky as she's the only worthwhile candidate in the field.

ShamNNspace

Del.Monte wrote: »

Only ones I've seen campaigning in Enniscorthy were Aontú. I got cornered by Peadar Tóibín outside Dealz - the closest contact that I've ever knowingly had with an SF supporter or politician - but being a Unionist/Brexiteer/and pro choice I am not his demographic. Instead I'll be going with Karin Dubsky as she's the only worthwhile candidate in the field.

Imv the greens would fare a lot better if they could somehow get rid of eamon Ryan I think they need a clean out of the old guard

An Claidheamh

Del.Monte wrote: »

Only ones I've seen campaigning in Enniscorthy were Aontú. I got cornered by Peadar Tóibín outside Dealz - the closest contact that I've ever knowingly had with an SF supporter or politician - but being a Unionist/Brexiteer/and pro choice I am not his demographic. Instead I'll be going with Karin Dubsky as she's the only worthwhile candidate in the field.

Good to see a unionist Brexiteer accepting Green and a German are a better choice than foolishness.

An Claidheamh

Corvo wrote: »

On the Irish Freedom Party

"Some outlets have linked party leader Hermann Kelly with alt-right ideologies, pointing to a video which Kelly recorded with far-right British Loyalist and former British National Party member Jim Dowson.[3] In the video Kelly endorsed the white nationalist "grand replacement" conspiracy theory.[3][24] This followed a similar interview, in January 2019 with LifeSiteNews, in which Kelly denounced what he called the "great replacement of our children"

Jesus wept.

Spoiler alert of the "Irish Freedom" party is they are actually set up by British loyalists who hate Irish freedom, including orange bigots.

Farage, who they adore, is actually against a united Ireland, as are all their other allies.

Gemma and her scangers think the Irish people give a sh@&e about foreigners in England, councils in England, English stuff in England.

Poor dear

vicwatson

Lawlor probably quakes in his shoes every time he goes outside the ring road of Wexford town.

Marhay70

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Imv the greens would fare a lot better if they could somehow get rid of eamon Ryan I think they need a clean out of the old guard

IMO the Greens would fare better if they got policies other than taxing the working man to the hilt for having the audacity to drive to work to feed his family and heat his home. Bunch of PC Liberal attention seekers, there is a better chance of me casting a vote for FG than for a carpetbagger like Dubski and I can assure you there is a less than zero chance of me ever casting a vote for FG.

ShamNNspace

Marhay70 wrote: »

IMO the Greens would fare better if they got policies other than taxing the working man to the hilt for having the audacity to drive to work to feed his family and heat his home. Bunch of PC Liberal attention seekers, there is a better chance of me casting a vote for FG than for a carpetbagger like Dubski and I can assure you there is a less than zero chance of me ever casting a vote for FG.

Excellent... That's what I like to hear

Big Vern

McLoughlin wrote: »

In Wexford town only answered to Labour but calls from FG and Shinners postal leaflets from FF and Green that's it. I'm conflicted though I want to give Gorgeous George and auld vote but if he does get elected chances are we will get Joe Ryan in the council which isn't what I want nor does Wexford given how he failed to get a local win for the past two local elections.

Malcolm Byrne seems to be concentrating in North Wexford, Jim Codd concentrating in South Wexford targeting the rural FG and FF vote.

I doubt that much of the Wallace protest voter will turn out and Johnny Mythen did well last time in general but did bad in local so gawd knows hoe he will do this time.

Actually had callers last night from Labour! Will give George a vote somewhere along the list, but the thoughts of Joe Ryan getting back into the council is a huge draw back! But at same time i cant see George getting enough or much support outside of Wex town to get elected.

Nokia6230i

Anyone watch tonights debate?

Verona Murphy empty chaired them; Jim Codd's at home lamenting this without realising the criteria TV3 used to select candidates

Of those on air PBP & GP candidates were p**s poor when it came to give their pitches at the end; indeed PBFP candidate was brutal throughout; they want free public transport but won't say, Apple excluded, who'll pay for it; fairytale politics.

Overall Malcolm beat them all hands down; may've been no harm #VoteVerona wasn't there; he may've eviscerated her; I'd be shocked if he doesn't romp home though her tallies will be interesting.

In his slipstream will be VM 2, George 3, Johnny 4, Cinnamon/Karin will be fighting for 5th I imagine and ex KK Co. Cllr. (SF then Ind.) Melissa O'Neill & the man who runs in any & every election Charles Reddy.

That said Melissa O'Neill might poll higher based on traction Verona Murphys comments get; she'd be of a similar bint (I didn't say she IS a similar bint!!!).

Eggs For Dinner

People will vote along the lines they always have. TV debates, controversy and incompetence rarely have an effect. We get what we deserve and love a good aul moan when the inevitable ensues.

kneemos

Verona keeping the head down.

https://wexfordtoday.com/2019/11/27/fine-gael-missing-in-action/

RadioRetro

I've seen some posters here and elsewhere being somewhat scathing of Labour's Joe Ryan. May I ask what it is about him that arouses such derision? I slightly know him but am not a supporter, and I'd just like to know more.