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Boil Water Notice

  • 22-10-2019 5:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭


    A boil water notice has been issued. Apparently an issue with the Leixlip water treatment plant.


    It was just on the tv news.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭wench


    Their website is down, but their twitter has a map of the affected area.
    Looks to be most of north Dublin & surrounds

    https://twitter.com/IWCare/status/1186698394930167808


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Expect water shortages in shops... mad thing is Celtic Pute, that supplies a lot of own brand stuff, was hit by a recall notice yesterday.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't!

    I reckon many people will be totally unaware of this notice.
    No real indication as to what levels of what substances could be int the supply or what harm it could do, especially to more vulnerable people (babies, pregnant etc...).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭CucaFace


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Expect water shortages in shops... mad thing is Celtic Pute, that supplies a lot of own brand stuff, was hit by a recall notice yesterday.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't!

    I reckon many people will be totally unaware of this notice.
    No real indication as to what levels of what substances could be int the supply or what harm it could do, especially to more vulnerable people (babies, pregnant etc...).

    Could it be that Celtic Pure was just bottled tap water from the effected area's which is why its being recalled...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    My mum just rang me to say there is no bottled water to buy in the Lidl or Tesco beside them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    gazzer wrote: »
    My mum just rang me to say there is no bottled water to buy in the Lidl or Tesco beside them.
    Where does she live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭castle_lover


    Thanks for the interactive map, I was close to the border of the other maps but when zoomed in it was distorted so at least you can see on an interactive map.

    Lots of water in Tesco and Lidl in Prussia Street beside Cabra cause we got some there just in case, yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,158 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    CucaFace wrote: »
    Could it be that Celtic Pure was just bottled tap water from the effected area's which is why its being recalled...

    No, they are using the identified source on the bottle. It's just not a very good one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Think the boil water notice has been lifted...
    https://www.thejournal.ie/bail-water-notice-lifted-4867806-Oct2019/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    What's the story with our water tanks? Will they hold the contaminated water? I'm no plumber, and I've a pregnant wife who's obviously not willing to take any chances.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    What's the story with our water tanks? Will they hold the contaminated water? I'm no plumber, and I've a pregnant wife who's obviously not willing to take any chances.

    I'm no plumber either but the water tank in attic is for toilet/showers and hot water...immersion will fill from that. She won't be drinking any of that.

    Cold water tap in kitchen comes direct from mains.

    She could wash her teeth in kitchen sink if worried about bathroom taps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'm no plumber either but the water tank in attic is for toilet/showers and hot water...immersion will fill from that. She won't be drinking any of that.

    Cold water tap in kitchen comes direct from mains.

    She could wash her teeth in kitchen sink if worried about bathroom taps.

    Ah.. ok, thanks PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Same boil notice again just reissued.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Odd question. Are dogs immune to cryptosporidium or whatever it is? My mutt is spoiled enough without introducing her to Evian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Collie D wrote: »
    Odd question. Are dogs immune to cryptosporidium or whatever it is? My mutt is spoiled enough without introducing her to Evian.

    Yes they are. And even if not, why not do as they suggest and boil and cool water?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Collie D wrote: »
    Odd question. Are dogs immune to cryptosporidium or whatever it is? My mutt is spoiled enough without introducing her to Evian.

    No dogs are not immune. You need to offer her safe water, either bottled or boiled and cooled tap water.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Odelay wrote: »
    Yes they are. And even if not, why not do as they suggest and boil and cool water?

    No they are not immune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Irish water said on Twitter today that if your dishwasher doesn't heat the water to 82 degrees Celsius it's not safe to use during a boil water notice. Surely it's safer than handwashing dishes? Mine has a sterilise setting that only heats it to 70 degrees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,158 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I don't think dishwashers made in the past 30 years are allowed go that hot! Mine caps out at 65 and that bakes food on sometimes so I never use it that high normally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    I noticed some places not selling tea or coffee.
    Why not if it's boiling water anyway?
    Or does it not boil it?

    I saw earlier that many pubs have 'no tap water' notices up, so you need to buy bottled water if you want a drink or even drop with your whiskey.
    Could the pubs not have stocked up on a few 2 or 5L bottles from Aldi / Lidl and at least cover that cost?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bren2001


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I noticed some places not selling tea or coffee.
    Why not if it's boiling water anyway?
    Or does it not boil it?

    I saw earlier that many pubs have 'no tap water' notices up, so you need to buy bottled water if you want a drink or even drop with your whiskey.
    Could the pubs not have stocked up on a few 2 or 5L bottles from Aldi / Lidl and at least cover that cost?

    You don't boil water for coffee. If you want to use the tap water for tea you need a 1 minute rolling boil. I assume when you boil water in a kettle for tea, you're not boiling it long enough to sanitize it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭adox


    bren2001 wrote: »
    You don't boil water for coffee. If you want to use the tap water for tea you need a 1 minute rolling boil. I assume when you boil water in a kettle for tea, you're not boiling it long enough to sanitize it.

    I doubt that. Both at home and in work through both boil water notices we have been drinking tea and coffee from a boiled kettle without issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bren2001


    adox wrote: »
    I doubt that. Both at home and in work through both boil water notices we have been drinking tea and coffee from a boiled kettle without issue.

    Well the coffee bit is correct. You're not supposed to boil water for coffee as you burn the beans. It's also the reason I was given by a coffee shop during the last boil water notice.

    For tea, the explanation makes sense. The guidelines from water.ie clearly state it should be a 1 minute rolling boil. I'm assuming kettle's don't boil water for a minute and is why shops won't serve it. I'd imagine most offices don't know that and is the reason why it's still in operation. Plenty of people using it for tea (myself included) and have suffered no issues but shops can't take that chance.

    The 1 minute rolling boil information can be found here:
    https://www.water.ie/water-supply/water-quality/boil-water-notice/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Apparently a kettle is enough for boiling the water so tea should be fine - the Irish water website states water must be "brought a vigorous rolling boil (eg with an automatic kettle)".

    But a lot of places use those Burco boilers that nearly always fail to boil properly - hence tea being disgusting from them anyway - so they couldn't stand over it being safe.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    This second boil water notice, affecting nearly all of North Dublin city and county, shows just how poorly managed and resourced our water treatment system is.

    I wonder might it change some minds about the aborted water charges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    This second boil water notice, affecting nearly all of North Dublin city and county, shows just how poorly managed and resourced our water treatment system is.
    I wonder might it change some minds about the aborted water charges?

    It wouldn't change mine as I have no expectation it would mean a better service at the end of the day, rather than feather bedding.
    Governments supposedly couldn't find money for essential funding of water services over decades but could magic up hundreds of millions for meters...

    If people make it a priority on the door steps come election time, politicians will take note when it comes to funding from taxation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    This second boil water notice, affecting nearly all of North Dublin city and county, shows just how poorly managed and resourced our water treatment system is.

    I wonder might it change some minds about the aborted water charges?

    Be great if it did, but argument (already made above) is "shure they just waste our money anyway"..."useless civil/public serpents" etc etc.
    Unfortunately there is some justification to that but it is a chicken and egg situation. The whole water supply and treatment system for Dublin is (obviously) in a mess with multiple issues that need fixing if you judge it by standards of a city in a wealthy 1st world country. This disgrace is just latest manifestation. It needs massive investment and money for that has to to come from somewhere.

    edit: I wonder if this will last quite a bit longer than previous notice. Messages being given out this time are not encouraging. It sounds like the plant literally cannot purify the (too cloudy?) source water it is receiving at the moment as opposed to their being any fault in the plant that could be fixed somehow. Could be just me being gloomy/pessimistic...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Heavy rain forecast on Thursday so I doubt the notice will be lifted for a few days after it.


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