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Liming

  • 04-10-2019 9:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭


    Soil tested entire farm couple of weeks ago. Results came back showing average pH of 5.8 and a lime requirement of 11.25 tonnes/Ha. Is it correct to say that the maximum ammount of lime applied can not exceed 7 tonnes/Ha? Whens the best time to spread lime, is it gone too late this year? How long must stock (sheep) be kept off fields after spreading? Also plan on reseeding some fields/paddocks next spring, when would be the best time to lime these? Sorry for all the questions. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Soil tested entire farm couple of weeks ago. Results came back showing average pH of 5.8 and a lime requirement of 11.25 tonnes/Ha. Is it correct to say that the maximum ammount of lime applied can not exceed 7 tonnes/Ha? Whens the best time to spread lime, is it gone too late this year? How long must stock (sheep) be kept off fields after spreading? Also plan on reseeding some fields/paddocks next spring, when would be the best time to lime these? Sorry for all the questions. Thank you.

    You can spread lime anytime of the year.
    3 t /acre was the usual figure not to go over in an application. Which would be 7.5 t/ha. So you'd be fine with your 7 per ha.
    You could graze the sheep the next day if it washed off a bit. But if it didn't I doubt there'd be issues. No issues with cattle anyway.
    Maybe someone with sheep will chime in?

    Just to confuse you. There's two types of lime. Dolomitic lime and Calcite lime or commonly referred as Magnesium lime and Calcium lime.
    Magnesium lime is spread if your ground is low in magnesium and Calcium lime is spread if your ground is high in magnesium.

    It's not the end of the world which you spread if you don't know your magnesium status. Whichever is better than none.

    If you're reseeding. Spread it at reseeding. No point ploughing it down if you won't be ploughing it up again in the year/year's after. If not ploughing, spread it at reseeding anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Would use 2 ton/acre. That's 5 ton/Ha.
    Not too late to spread.
    On the reseeding, if you're ploughing, plough and level then spread lime and harrow in.
    Check lime status in 2 years and go again if necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    I would say depending on your land/soil 2t/ac may be enough in one go. It can leave the place a bit wet on heavy soil/clay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭DJ98


    How long after spreading lime before fertiliser can be applied?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    DJ98 wrote: »
    How long after spreading lime before fertiliser can be applied?

    Dont think theres a limit after lime. Could be wrong. We always add the two nearly at the same time for reseeding


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Dont think theres a limit after lime. Could be wrong. We always add the two nearly at the same time for reseeding

    Could you go with fertiliser first and then lime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Could you go with fertiliser first and then lime?
    Yes just give it a week.
    Don't use urea after lime, for 6 months I think.

    Lime has effects but is over rated, and 2 ton is loads.
    Came across an old saying lately from a German "Lime without manure, makes the father rich and the son poor".

    It makes "locked up" P and K available by flushing them from the soil, having a well functioning soil microbiology to access soil nutrients would be the ideal aim, but that's another challenge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭CaoinDory


    DJ98 wrote: »
    , is it gone too late this year?

    My hubby works delivering lime and they are run off their feet at the moment with it. Everyone's getting it now so defo not too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Soil tested entire farm couple of weeks ago. Results came back showing average pH of 5.8 and a lime requirement of 11.25 tonnes/Ha. Is it correct to say that the maximum ammount of lime applied can not exceed 7 tonnes/Ha? Whens the best time to spread lime, is it gone too late this year? How long must stock (sheep) be kept off fields after spreading? Also plan on reseeding some fields/paddocks next spring, when would be the best time to lime these? Sorry for all the questions. Thank you.

    I am not sure how it would affect sheep if they grazed newly limed grazing. but it will give cattle the scour and I suspect that it would likely do the same to sheep. So it would be best to wait until the lime has washed into the ground before grazing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭DJ98


    How many tonnes of lime would be in one lorry load? 20 is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Around that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Any one know if you spread lime (ground) now on pasture could you take a cut of hay of it later in the year ?

    I am aware that silage won’t preserve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Any one know if you spread lime (ground) now on pasture could you take a cut of hay of it later in the year ?

    I am aware that silage won’t preserve.

    You can but is it not risky in case you don't get hay and have to wrap or let got if the weather changed or wasn't as good as predicted.

    Granlime might be a safer option for that field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    You can but is it not risky in case you don't get hay and have to wrap or let got if the weather changed or wasn't as good as predicted.

    Granlime might be a safer option for that field.


    Thanks JO - don’t think I’ll chance it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Rise the cutter bar a bit by tilting if the lime isn't washed down, if having to make silage bales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    There seems to be a few different suppliers of lime over in west of Ireland here. Is there anyone that stands out as been better quality of lime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Omallep2


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    There seems to be a few different suppliers of lime over in west of Ireland here. Is there anyone that stands out as been better quality of lime?

    Mc graths come well recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Katie 2018


    Got ground lime spread on grassland couple weeks ago.2.5 ton to acre.question is I spread 18.6.12 about a week before an grass seems to have stopped growing.poor response to fertilizer.would the two spread together caused a reaction??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,127 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Katie 2018 wrote: »
    Got ground lime spread on grassland couple weeks ago.2.5 ton to acre.question is I spread 18.6.12 about a week before an grass seems to have stopped growing.poor response to fertilizer.would the two spread together caused a reaction??

    Lime after CAN is OK. See attached.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Katie 2018 wrote: »
    Got ground lime spread on grassland couple weeks ago.2.5 ton to acre.question is I spread 18.6.12 about a week before an grass seems to have stopped growing.poor response to fertilizer.would the two spread together caused a reaction??

    Did you do a soil test on the ground first and what did it say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Katie 2018


    Did you do a soil test on the ground first and what did it say?
    yes done soil test through teagasc pH of 5.6 recommended 2.4ton of ground lime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Katie 2018 wrote: »
    yes done soil test through teagasc pH of 5.6 recommended 2.4ton of ground lime

    Get some Boron on in some shape or form.

    Actually what were the B soil test results?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Get some Boron on in some shape or form.

    Actually what were the B soil test results?

    How can you apply Boron?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    How can you apply Boron?

    People can get it as a fertilizer granule.

    There's a school of thought that calcium applications should always be accompanied by boron. Plants need both.
    But then it depends on the soil test.


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