The Reality of Life for Luna

Zorya

Luna's mother claims Luna was the youngest trans child in the UK because at the age of 3 he transitioned. Apparently Luna's mother knew this because ''Jeneen tells how Luna always shunned “football stuff”, preferring to play with dolls and dress-up.'' The child loved princess dresses over football gear. Obviously then, they are in the wrong body.

There are a few ways life could have gone for little Luna. Luna could have been allowed to be a very feminine boy unconstrained by weirdly archaic gender notions that imply a boy who plays with dolls and likes dresses is in some alternate reality really a girl. Luna could have grown up to be a gay man with fabulous inclinations.

Instead, Luna now pretends to be a girl, even though Luna is in actuality a boy.
This will become more difficult when Luna's DNA causes natural changes in their body, such a body hair, deeper voice, genital and body growth etc.
It will be up to Luna, Jeneen says, if they will take pubertal supressing hormones then.

If Luna takes puberty blockers they are at risk of lowered IQ, impaired memory funtion and stunted cognitive development. The child risks lower bone mineralisation leading to problems in later life. Serious problems with bone, blood and joint disorders are being reported among people who were prescribed puberty blockers in childhood. Depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation and seizures have been reported from the use of Lupron. A boy's penis will remain at it's childhood size and future fertility and sexual potency can be compromised.

If Luna takes cross sex hormones later in order to try and become a female, they will become sterile. Infertile. Luna will have increased risk of cancer and cardiovascular illness. Their penis will reduce further in size. They will grow breasts - this growth of breast tissue is irreversible without surgical removal. There will be redistribution of body fat and increased occurence of mood disorders. Dysphoria will not necessarily be in any way alleviated. The underlying discomfort remains - this is recently being discovered in studies.
If Luna goes for a vaginoplasty there will be a life long requirement for dilation of the cavity, treatment for bacterial infections and unpleasant smells, lack of or severe reduction in sexual pleasure and function, and other issues like internal hair growth and shortening of the canal.

Note : Prescription drugs are being shown to have very different effects on male and female bodies, so as they go through life Luna should let doctors know that they have male DNA to avoid adverse medical consequences. This is a problematic side effect of changed birth certs and passports.

If Luna had been left alone to be a feminine boy who can dress how he wants, behave how he wants, not be shoe-horned into a suffocating definition of gender attributes, he would not have to lead a life that is completely and helplessly medicalised.

How is any of this savagery and medical malfeasance viewed as ''progress''?
(And how do these narcissistic mothers so often find their way to the newspapers?)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7490035/Mother-one-Britains-youngest-transgender-toddlers-hits-critics.html

jam_mac_jam

We are going to look back at this in thirty years like electroshock therapy, Nambla or people smoking everywhere. It's horrifying to put children under any medical treatment that they do not understand the ramifications of. Let her live as a girl and decide later if needed but the more I learn about puberty blockers the more frightening this becomes.

My son used to play with dolls and liked nail varnish when he was three, he has grown into a weightlifting six footed stereotypical make that likes wild camping and carpentry. Obviously not that some women can't do these things but you can have "male" and "female" parts to your personality without it meaning you are a different gender.

Zorya

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

We are going to look back at this in thirty years like electroshock therapy, Nambla or people smoking everywhere. It's horrifying to put children under any medical treatment that they do not understand the ramifications of. Let her live as a girl and decide later if needed but the more I learn about puberty blockers the more frightening this becomes.

My son used to play with dolls and liked nail varnish when he was three, he has grown into a weightlifting six footed stereotypical make that likes wild camping and carpentry. Obviously not that some women can't do these things but you can have "male" and "female" parts to your personality without it meaning you are a different gender.

Yes, I agree. Although its much more serious than smoking, which if done on your own time and place is a pleasure for some. My son also liked feminine things and often as a kid wore dresses. And is a very manly man now. This is also gay conversion therapy by any other name. I find it horrifying. I cannot help but speak up against any normalisation of it.

biko

Gender correction, yes, but only when the child is old enough.
18 seems appropriate. 3 seems hugely inappropriate.

Zorya

biko wrote: »

Gender correction, yes, but only when the child is old enough.
18 seems appropriate. 3 seems hugely inappropriate.

18 may not even be old enough as the frontal lobes are still immature. But even if one goes with 18 why should it be considered better to mutilate the body surgically or with hormones leaving so many dysfunctions, when one would have good organ function otherwise. It seems a regressive way to view gender attributes, that an approximate imitation of a genital presentation maketh the man or woman.

jam_mac_jam

The full implication s of the hormones and surgery are fairly glossed over as well.

Zorya

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

The full implication s of the hormones and surgery are fairly glossed over as well.

There are places one can read the stories of young people who had surgery and hormones, really disturbing stories. I recently watched a youtube of a 17 year old boy in US who was vlogging their vaginoplasty. Such a heart breaking video. A lovely child.

JeffKenna

This is wrong. I had a doll until I was 4 or 5, the only thing it meant is that I liked playing with dolls. Nothing more.

suicide_circus

it's child abuse. i guarantee daddy is not around. the child is a means of getting attention for the mother.

suicide_circus

JeffKenna wrote: »

This is wrong. I had a doll until I was 4 or 5, the only thing it meant is that I liked playing with dolls. Nothing more.

yep. i inherited a hand me down dolly from a cousin at one stage when i was 3 or 4 and played with it. luckily i wasnt put on hormones.

Zorya

suicide_circus wrote: »

it's child abuse. i guarantee daddy is not around. the child is a means of getting attention for the mother.

She is single. I dont know what the stats are re representation at gender clinics for single parents. Or if it has implications.

Its also how casually this is narrated in ordinary media.

Reviews and Books Galore

I wonder what the affect of a caregiver having a predisposed negativity towards masculinity and a predisposed positivity towards femininity? Would the child act feminine to get positive aproval off the parent?

Zorya

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I wonder what the affect of a caregiver having a predisposed negativity towards masculinity and a predisposed positivity towards femininity? Would the child act feminine to get positive aproval off the parent?

Dont know about any of that.

I only know every child helplessly seeks parental approval. A parent has the power of life or death over you.

Sardonicat

My niece (now married, in her 30s with 2 kids and twins on the way) refused dresses, dolls or any traditional 'girly' things all through her childhood. She wanted soccer, bikes, trains. Thankfully, no one told her she was a boy. No one stopped her doing what she really wanted, either. I'd shudder to think what the outcome would be if she were a child now.

wellwhynot

There was an article in a newspaper recently about a woman who had been arrested for masturbating in front of a child. A photo accompanied the article and I saw a man not a woman. I apparently am not allowed say that. I have to deny what my eyes can see.

In years to come when people investigate the sudden increase in women carrying out sexual crimes I wonder what they will think if they dig up the graves of these ‘women.’

Eric Cartman

I cant wait till this child abuse fad is over. Seems like the mother is just bored and wants a project that is popular on instagram

StinkyMunkey

What is with these people, since when do you allow a three year old child to make life changing discussions?

Plenty of time later when the kid can actually articulate how they feel.

Zorya

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I cant wait till this child abuse fad is over. Seems like the mother is just bored and wants a project that is popular on instagram

It is child abuse but it is unfortunately not a fad. The advisory body Mermaids who supported this mother with her childs transition has a significant influence on curriculums in some UK schools, even re lessons being taught to very very young children. They run training sessions for schools, organisations, health professionals, police, social services, public bodies and private companies. They are government funded to provide these services. They are fully on board with extreme gender theory. The chief executive Susie Green brought their son to Thailand to have a vaginoplasty when he was 16. Advice includes teachers not informing parents about their childrens gender decisions.

ceadaoin.

Is it true that this child has already had their birth cert and passport changed to reflect their new gender? That is absolutely crazy. Seven years old ffs. Theres no way a 7 year old would even think or care about that, this is obviously being led by the mother. But it's totally their own choice whether to move on to puberty blockers etc? Yeah right, like there is any other option for them after their whole identity has been changed to that of a female, legally and socially, and in such a public way too.

A 7 year old is not capable of making an informed decision on such things. But the mother gets lots of attention and praise for being so understanding. Munchausen by proxy springs to mind here.

LoughNeagh2017

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

We are going to look back at this in thirty years like electroshock therapy, Nambla or people smoking everywhere. It's horrifying to put children under any medical treatment that they do not understand the ramifications of. Let her live as a girl and decide later if needed but the more I learn about puberty blockers the more frightening this becomes.

My son used to play with dolls and liked nail varnish when he was three, he has grown into a weightlifting six footed stereotypical make that likes wild camping and carpentry. Obviously not that some women can't do these things but you can have "male" and "female" parts to your personality without it meaning you are a different gender.

Being 6 foot tall isn't stereotypical in this country, that is Viking DNA leftovers, I am 5'6 Gaelic manlet

Zorya

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Is it true that this child has already had their birth cert and passport changed to reflect their new gender? That is absolutely crazy. Seven years old ffs.

Munchausen by proxy springs to mind here.

They have changed their certificates - that means officialdom is on board with this kind of thing. Recently in the UK new school guidelines were leaked which said any young girl unhappy with a trans identifying boy in the changing room or showers should leave and use a private room. There is mention here and there that along with radical notions from gender theory young children will be taught about self touching from about 6. This is all being gradually brought in under the guise of openess and progressiveness. I had a friend of mine who is an Irish teacher say to me recently that the school is supporting the transition of a 12 year old. I was almost full time living in a dream world at 12 and that was without the influence of digital media. So it is not just the odd crazy parent here or there, it has gone fairly far along the tracks at this stage - and yes, I do think Munchausens is worth considering in some peoples cases.

sabat

Zorya wrote: »

I had a friend of mine who is an Irish teacher say to me recently that the school is supporting the transition of a 12 year old.

Is it an Educate Together school perchance?

jam_mac_jam

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

We are going to look back at this in thirty years like electroshock therapy, Nambla or people smoking everywhere. It's horrifying to put children under any medical treatment that they do not understand the ramifications of. Let her live as a girl and decide later if needed but the more I learn about puberty blockers the more frightening this becomes.

My son used to play with dolls and liked nail varnish when he was three, he has grown into a weightlifting six footed stereotypical make that likes wild camping and carpentry. Obviously not that some women can't do these things but you can have "male" and "female" parts to your personality without it meaning you are a different gender.

Being 6 foot tall isn't stereotypical in this country, that is Viking DNA leftovers, I am 5'6 Gaelic manlet

Ah I don't mean to suggest manlyness is tallness. Sorry.

Sir Oxman

Zorya wrote: »

She is single. I dont know what the stats are re representation at gender clinics for single parents. Or if it has implications.

Its also how casually this is narrated in ordinary media.

^This.
Social policy bodies, political parties, police, universities, media have been captured by this absolute dangerous nonsense.


Thankfully, I see this weekend that one of the founders of Stonewall UK Simon Fanshawe is leading a push to establish an LGB organisation without the alphabet soup as he and others say 'the safeguarding of children and womens sex-based rights are being massively endangered' by the now all-powerful LGBTQIA+ bullsh1t of Stonewall et al.
Actual gay men and lesbians are also being sidelined and gaslit by the very same so-called gay rights org so yep, I can see why he would go down this road.



Stonewall UK is off its tits surreptitiously dictating UK social policy without any debate.
And of those saying what has this to do with little isolated Ireland sure isn't everything grand here?

Well, no it isn't.
The exact same snakey, underhand takeover of social policy has occurred here. The exact same muzzling of opinion is happening here.

whisky_galore

The inmates are taking over the asylum.

Mean Laqueefa

If you cant pick your bedtime you cant pick your gender

Zorya

This is a quote from Andrew Sullivan, the New York author and gay man who started the same sex marriage movement in the US

I don’t have children, but I sure worry about gay kids in this context. I remember being taunted by some other kids when I was young — they suggested that because I was mildly gender-nonconforming, I must be a girl. If my teachers and parents and doctors had adopted this new ideology, I might never have found the happiness of being gay and comfort in being male. How many gay kids, I wonder, are now being led into permanent physical damage or surgery that may be life-saving for many, but catastrophic for others, who come to realize they made a mistake. And what are gay adults doing to protect them? Nothing. Only a few ornery feminists, God bless them, are querying this.
In some ways, the extremism of the new transgender ideology also risks becoming homophobic. Instead of seeing effeminate men as one kind of masculinity, as legitimate as any other, transgenderism insists that girliness requires being a biological girl. Similarly, a tomboy is not allowed to expand the bandwidth of what being female can mean, but must be put into the category of male. In my view, this is not progressive; it’s deeply regressive. There’s a reason why Iran is a world leader in sex-reassignment surgery, and why the mullahs pay for it. Homosexuality in Iran is so anathema that gay boys must be turned into girls, and lesbian girls into boys, to conform to heterosexual norms. Sound a little too familiar?

dont bother

"jeneen!!! Come in heeor for your can of dinner!"

BattleCorp

When I was 3 I wanted to be Spiderman.

My parents should have let me transition. Ba5tards.

SJW Lover

Mammy is special. That is the nub of this.

freshpopcorn

It will be interesting to see how we'll look back at this in 30/30 years time.
Will this kid be thanking there parents or will they be trying to sue them and the state.

Zorya

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how we'll look back at this in 30/30 years time.
Will this kid be thanking there parents or will they be trying to sue them and the state.

There are mastectomies being done on 13 year olds in the US. One of the main gender doctors in Los Angeles said they can get more if they regret that later. Whatever about breast reconstruction try penis reconstruction - I have seen stories of under 18s having theirs removed. Its barbaric. And the gender theory ideology behind it all has been defended to the hilt by some on this site. And a lot of other regular people in the world have been so bamboozled by social policy advocates that they think affirmation is genuinely the best response.

Sir Oxman

On a side note...

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/three-complaints-about-rte-prime-time-programme-on-transgender-issues-rejected-by-bai-38529503.html

Most of the complaints came BEFORE the program aired.
A lot were from abroad...

I'm as happy about this as I am about the UK Supreme court thing today.

Zorya

”Gender dysphoria spreads like an epidemic online”
Letter from Sven Roman, child psychiatrist, Sweden. To a newspaper, September 2019.

The number of cases of gender dysphoria has increased explosively in recent years, especially among young people. I am appalled at the drastic, irrevocable and unscientific treatment. This may be our country’s biggest healthcare scandal ever.
On September 5, 17 parents of children with gender dysphoria wrote an op-ed in the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter on the epidemic of gender dysphoria among children and young adults (18 to 25 years). They describe an epidemic in which social contacts play a major role.
In psychiatry, it is common for epidemics to spread socially. Some other examples are eating disorders and self-harm behavior.
Through internet, the social spread has been made easier and thus has increased. It started with contacts via sms. The increase became exponential through the rise of social media. The trend grew additionally with smart phones.
When eating disorders and self-harm behavior began to increase, the health care provider community tried its best when it came to treatment. I will exemplify how we approached self-harm behavior, that started to appear in the early 1990s.
Initially, we forced these young people into treatment, and kept them under constant surveillance with the aim to reduce self-harm. The result was quite the opposite.
The youth felt monitored as if they were in prison, their levels of anxiety increased, the self-harm behavior escalated and the blood was literally splashing. There were many restraining belt interventions and forced medication.
But we learned. We realized there was a great spread of contamination and we tried to avoid hospitalization in closed wards.
After a decade, research has shown promising results through psychotherapy. Today, practices across the country are treating self-harm behavior with scientifically rooted psychotherapy. Often, patients stop injuring themselves within three months.
From 2014, the six gender dysphoria reception centers for children has seen an avalanche of referrals. In 2013, Stockholm received 24 referrals. In the years 2016 to 2018, 197 to 239 referrals came annually, this is an eight to ten-fold increase in three years, according to an article in Swedish newspaper Expressen.
There is a corresponding increase in all the reception centers in the country. Thousands of children and young adults are likely to have received sex-corrective treatment over the past five years.

Unlike the epidemic of self-harm behavior, care providers are not exploring to find the right treatment. Instead, on a broad front, drastic treatment with high doses of sex hormones and breast and genital surgery is introduced. This despite the lack of any scientific evidence for these treatments for children, and probably not for young adults either.
Research shows that at least 75 percent of patients with gender dysphoria have other psychiatric problems. In the group of children and young adults, autism, eating disorders, self-harm behavior and abuse are common. For all these conditions there is evidence-based treatment. Given such, gender dysphoria often disappears, as it is usually secondary to these conditions.
The brain undergoes major changes during adolescence. Development takes place from the posterior part of the brain and moves forward. The last part of the brain to mature is the front lobe. This is where the capacity for holistic thinking, empathy and judgment lies. The brain is only fully developed at 25 to 30 years of age.
Since gender dysphoria often is secondary to psychiatric conditions for which there is evidence-based treatment and gender-corrective therapy for adolescents lacks scientific support, all gender-corrective therapy for patients younger than 25 years should be discontinued.
There needs to be an independent investigation into the probably biggest health scandal in our country’s history.
Sven Román MD, specialist in child and adolescent psychiatry.
Published in the swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter September 13, 2019

Sir Oxman

Zorya wrote: »

”Gender dysphoria spreads like an epidemic online”
Letter from Sven Roman, child psychiatrist, Sweden. To a newspaper, September 2019.

The number of cases of gender dysphoria has increased explosively in recent years, especially among young people. I am appalled at the drastic, irrevocable and unscientific treatment. This may be our country’s biggest healthcare scandal ever.
On September 5, 17 parents of children with gender dysphoria wrote an op-ed in the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter on the epidemic of gender dysphoria among children and young adults (18 to 25 years). They describe an epidemic in which social contacts play a major role.
In psychiatry, it is common for epidemics to spread socially. Some other examples are eating disorders and self-harm behavior.
Through internet, the social spread has been made easier and thus has increased. It started with contacts via sms. The increase became exponential through the rise of social media. The trend grew additionally with smart phones.
When eating disorders and self-harm behavior began to increase, the health care provider community tried its best when it came to treatment. I will exemplify how we approached self-harm behavior, that started to appear in the early 1990s.
Initially, we forced these young people into treatment, and kept them under constant surveillance with the aim to reduce self-harm. The result was quite the opposite.
The youth felt monitored as if they were in prison, their levels of anxiety increased, the self-harm behavior escalated and the blood was literally splashing. There were many restraining belt interventions and forced medication.
But we learned. We realized there was a great spread of contamination and we tried to avoid hospitalization in closed wards.
After a decade, research has shown promising results through psychotherapy. Today, practices across the country are treating self-harm behavior with scientifically rooted psychotherapy. Often, patients stop injuring themselves within three months.
From 2014, the six gender dysphoria reception centers for children has seen an avalanche of referrals. In 2013, Stockholm received 24 referrals. In the years 2016 to 2018, 197 to 239 referrals came annually, this is an eight to ten-fold increase in three years, according to an article in Swedish newspaper Expressen.
There is a corresponding increase in all the reception centers in the country. Thousands of children and young adults are likely to have received sex-corrective treatment over the past five years.

Unlike the epidemic of self-harm behavior, care providers are not exploring to find the right treatment. Instead, on a broad front, drastic treatment with high doses of sex hormones and breast and genital surgery is introduced. This despite the lack of any scientific evidence for these treatments for children, and probably not for young adults either.
Research shows that at least 75 percent of patients with gender dysphoria have other psychiatric problems. In the group of children and young adults, autism, eating disorders, self-harm behavior and abuse are common. For all these conditions there is evidence-based treatment. Given such, gender dysphoria often disappears, as it is usually secondary to these conditions.
The brain undergoes major changes during adolescence. Development takes place from the posterior part of the brain and moves forward. The last part of the brain to mature is the front lobe. This is where the capacity for holistic thinking, empathy and judgment lies. The brain is only fully developed at 25 to 30 years of age.
Since gender dysphoria often is secondary to psychiatric conditions for which there is evidence-based treatment and gender-corrective therapy for adolescents lacks scientific support, all gender-corrective therapy for patients younger than 25 years should be discontinued.
There needs to be an independent investigation into the probably biggest health scandal in our country’s history.
Sven Román MD, specialist in child and adolescent psychiatry.
Published in the swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter September 13, 2019

It is most definitely a social contamination via the technology used today which is ubiquitous.


There will come a day (too late for the poor souls today) when this barbarity and stupidity will be stopped and I hope recriminations follow swiftly for every single person/parent/politician/lecturer/medic/social policy maker/t++++ organisations and stupid, stupid commercial companies that have adopted this cruel and insane crud.


The harm to the victims, women's rights and the LGB community is already enormous.

Tony EH

Sardonicat wrote: »

My niece (now married, in her 30s with 2 kids and twins on the way) refused dresses, dolls or any traditional 'girly' things all through her childhood. She wanted soccer, bikes, trains.

So, she was Trainsgender.

Seriously though, this crap is getting out of control.

In this case, it seems to be the "mother" trying to gather attention for her own self aggrandisement.

NIMAN

Zorya wrote: »

There are mastectomies being done on 13 year olds in the US. One of the main gender doctors in Los Angeles said they can get more if they regret that later. Whatever about breast reconstruction try penis reconstruction - I have seen stories of under 18s having theirs removed. Its barbaric. And the gender theory ideology behind it all has been defended to the hilt by some on this site. And a lot of other regular people in the world have been so bamboozled by social policy advocates that they think affirmation is genuinely the best response.

Surely the breast material continues to grow though for several years?

Do they need multiple ops?

Zorya

Sir Oxman wrote: »

It is most definitely a social contamination via the technology used today which is ubiquitous.


There will come a day (too late for the poor souls today) when this barbarity and stupidity will be stopped and I hope recriminations follow swiftly for every single person/parent/politician/lecturer/medic/social policy maker/t++++ organisations and stupid, stupid commercial companies that have adopted this cruel and insane crud.


The harm to the victims, women's rights and the LGB community is already enormous.

I notice lately that all those on this site who used to argue in favour of affirmation and call people who objected all sorts of unpleasantries are gone very quiet as the dominoes on this savagery fall. I normally don't stoop to personal invective but they were ****, one and all.

Zorya

NIMAN wrote: »

Surely the breast material continues to grow though for several years?

Do they need multiple ops?

I don't know. I imagine one can remove all the breast root tissue. Johanna Olson Kennedy is the doctors name and she deserves to be marked down in history as the monster she is, I'm afraid.

Zorya

Classical Guitar wrote: »

Why is always women who push this sick transgender stuff?

It has been at least as actively pushed by trans identifying men. If not more. The whole project has needed an ideological creed that attacks right to infancy - born in the wrong body, the trans child, assigned sex at birth, new education modalities implemented from kindergarten. It has been an ascientific deconstructionist ballsup of monumental proportions. Without the gender theory cock and bull (go back to the egregious Judith Butler and her post modern gobbledegook attack on reality) transgenderism becomes in many cases merely a paraphilia. Much of the money behind this propaganda has come from very wealthy trans identifying men, particularly those with pharmaceutical stock. Yes stupid women have backed them up and been very loud - Susie Green, Butler, Olson Kennedy. And other women with neurotic illness have fallen prey. But I have seen many loud, aggressive, narcissistic men at the forefront of this horror.

Calhoun

Interesting related article from an Irish perspective. Especially worry is the bit about people being unhappy with thing.

It's then a big wonder why there is so much concern around the topic.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/patients-coached-to-fasttrack-sex-change-treatment-38543409.html

Zorya

Native American Presidential candidate in the United States will have a 9 year old transgendered child help her choose their Minister for Education if she is elected.

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1182484530869030912

9 years old?
Short hair and suit = Boy.
9. Fecken. Years. Old?

And it looks like it has been going on since the child was younger. Why does that small child need a label? Why can the child not live a life that expresses gender however they want without eventually having their vagina atrophied so that it itches and is a source for infection and their bones made brittle by chemicals? Why are they going to have male pattern baldness enforced upon them? Why are they going to be one of the many early pubescent females having their breasts removed or being bound so tightly to their ribs that they deform themselves?

I must be going mad but I think this is absurdly regressive. This was the second transgender 9 year old of the CNN debates night too. Is there something in the water?

*heads for paddy power to put a few quid on Trump for a 2nd term*

lleti

The doctor O'Shea, said about 50% of people wanting to change gender have mental problems yet society is fine with people doing it because they want to do it.

I was browsing twitter the other day and seen loads of people with these "uses he/her pronouns". Like ffs, why should the majority of society have to fit into the minorities world?

It's like not using handshakes anymore because some amputees might be offended and have their feelings hurt.

lleti

Zorya wrote: »

Native American Presidential candidate in the United States will have a 9 year old transgendered child help her choose their Minister for Education if she is elected.

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1182484530869030912

9 years old?
Short hair and suit = Boy.
9. Fecken. Years. Old?

And it looks like it has been going on since the child was younger. Why does that small child need a label? Why can the child not live a life that expresses gender however they want without eventually having their vagina atrophied so that it itches and is a source for infection and their bones made brittle by chemicals? Why are they going to have male pattern baldness enforced upon them? Why are they going to be one of the many early pubescent females having their breasts removed or being bound so tightly to their ribs that they deform themselves?

I must be going mad but I think this is absurdly regressive. This was the second transgender 9 year old of the CNN debates night too. Is there something in the water?

Cult like how there was a round of applause for saying he's 9 and transgender.

It's just downright creepy.

suicide_circus

Zorya wrote: »

Native American Presidential candidate in the United States will have a 9 year old transgendered child help her choose their Minister for Education if she is elected.

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1182484530869030912

9 years old?
Short hair and suit = Boy.
9. Fecken. Years. Old?

And it looks like it has been going on since the child was younger. Why does that small child need a label? Why can the child not live a life that expresses gender however they want without eventually having their vagina atrophied so that it itches and is a source for infection and their bones made brittle by chemicals? Why are they going to have male pattern baldness enforced upon them? Why are they going to be one of the many early pubescent females having their breasts removed or being bound so tightly to their ribs that they deform themselves?

I must be going mad but I think this is absurdly regressive. This was the second transgender 9 year old of the CNN debates night too. Is there something in the water?

Warren is about as Native American as i am

Zorya wrote: »

social policy advocates that they think affirmation is genuinely the best response.

Its no different than telling an anorexic person "yes, youre as fat as hell!"

Zorya

suicide_circus wrote: »

Warren is about as Native American as i am

I know I woke up feeling sarcastic

lleti

https://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/855475983402401792?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Egmail%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

jimgoose

When is society going to grow a pair (Hah!) and tell these weirdos where to get off? Josef Mengele has been - rightly - vilified for less.

Zorya

These children are getting their birth certs changed, they can have a passport change, they can have chemicals from the age of 8 (in the US) and 11 (in the UK). They can have their breasts removed under age 13 in the US. Ever younger they can claim to actually BE - not imagine but BE - the opposite sex - eg sports, showering, access to spaces.

So that is one side and yet these children cannot fight against ever increasing evidence that disease affects the biological sexes much differently. Cancer mutates differently depending on your biological sex DNA. Medicines affect male and female bodies differently. This is an area of research only really opening up and will eventually show quite large differences between male and female DNA no matter how people would like to push for ''sameness''.

So what will be done with these children who will have been told they are actually the opposite sex - so much so that they must be mutilated to embody the opposite sex - when it comes to medical reality? What kind of a fcuk up is that going to be for their heads?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25030233
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00562-7

Gonzovision

I've just finished Dougls Murrays new book, 'The Madness of Crowds', covers this topic in quite bit of detail. It's actually terrifying...