Remakes

riffmongous

I saw today there was talk of doing a remake of the Princess Bride and inevitably a lot of people are against it.. 'its a perfect movie, it doesn't need a remake', 'its just more lazy movie executives redoing classics', etc.

And at first it seems reasonable, but when you think about it,what is the actual problem with it really, how does it damage the original or it's fans enjoyment of it? No one is forcing you to go watch it, you don't have to pay attention if you don't want to, you don't have to pay a cent towards it if you disagree with the ethics of it, the original everyone loves is still there same as ever.

Change my mind

BDI

When your children reach princess bride age, do you want them to watch the classic film you loved or some disposable film made by marketing that they will think you are a dick for liking even though they only wanted to watch it because of advertising.

You're right, Sylvester Stallone's 'Get Carter' remake is a harmless work of art.

ILoveYourVibes

riffmongous wrote: »

I saw today there was talk of doing a remake of the Princess Bride

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Infernal Racket

My kids watched both Karate Kids starting with the original. Both agreed the original won hands down. Remakes can ****off

Infernal Racket

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

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My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

frag420

riffmongous wrote: »

I saw today there was talk of doing a remake of the Princess Bride and inevitably a lot of people are against it.. 'its a perfect movie, it doesn't need a remake', 'its just more lazy movie executives redoing classics', etc.

And at first it seems reasonable, but when you think about it,what is the actual problem with it really, how does it damage the original or it's fans enjoyment of it? No one is forcing you to go watch it, you don't have to pay attention if you don't want to, you don't have to pay a cent towards it if you disagree with the ethics of it, the original everyone loves is still there same as ever.

Change my mind

Inconceivable!!

riffmongous

Deleted User wrote: »

You're right, Sylvester Stallone's 'Get Carter' remake is a harmless work of art.

Can you please point out on the doll where the bad movie touched you

:P

riffmongous

BDI wrote: »

When your children reach princess bride age, do you want them to watch the classic film you loved or some disposable film made by marketing that they will think you are a dick for liking even though they only wanted to watch it because of advertising.

Yeah but the existence of the second won't affect them enjoying the first one

Guy:Incognito

We should start a forum for talking about movies.

Feisar

The nerd in me wants to ask: Is the new material considered cannon?

riffmongous

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

We should start a forum for talking about movies.

Quiet you, this thread only has a shelf life of about 30 mins before the move and I want to get the opinion of the good folk of AH first

riffmongous

Feisar wrote: »

The nerd in me wants to ask: Is the new material considered cannon?

Are you thinking, split timelines?

Will I Am Not

The deluge of remakes, sequels and prequels will continue as long as mainstream pirating continues.

RMAOK

I hope they never remake the "back to the Future" films.

BDI

RMAOK wrote: »

I hope they never remake the "back to the Future" films.

They did, in about five years from now.

RMAOK

BDI wrote: »

They did, in about five years from now.

riffmongous

The 2nd one could do with a remake in fairness

The Princess Bride

If someone said they were gonna remake The Beach, I'd think, yeah, go ahead, the original didn't do the book any justice.
Or Shutter Island maybe.

But The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?

So disrespectful, not to mention the fact that what feckin' eegit would want to even try and play any of the characters?

BDI

The Princess Bride wrote: »

If someone said they were gonna remake The Beach, I'd think, yeah, go ahead, the original didn't do the book any justice.
Or Shutter Island maybe.

But The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?

So disrespectful, not to mention the fact that what feckin' eegit would want to even try and play any of the characters?

Where would they even find a six fingered man in this day and age

riffmongous

The Princess Bride wrote: »

If someone said they were gonna remake The Beach, I'd think, yeah, go ahead, the original didn't do the book any justice.
Or Shutter Island maybe.

But The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?
The Princess Bride?

So disrespectful, not to mention the fact that what feckin' eegit would want to even try and play any of the characters?

Ah it's not that big a deal now, it's not like anyone would love it so much they'd get a tattoo of it or pick it as their username or something mad

The Princess Bride

BDI wrote: »

Where would they even find a six fingered man in this day and age

I know!
That was some find, what were the chances of needing an actor with 6 fingers, looking for one and actually finding one?
Wow.


https://twitter.com/jamieleecurtis/status/1173980868009840640?s=19

The Princess Bride

riffmongous wrote: »

Ah it's not that big a deal now, it's not like anyone would love it so much they'd get a tattoo of it or pick it as their username or something mad

:D

Your Face

BDI wrote: »

Where would they even find a six fingered man in this day and age

Every small town has one.

RobbingBandit

Nope they'll **** it up with a cgi Seth Rogan as Fezzik and Mike Myers as Vizzini

Back to the Future ET The Princess Bride three never need a do over films

No to remakes

riffmongous

BDI wrote: »

Where would they even find a six fingered man in this day and age

Newtownmountkennedy?

riffmongous

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Nope they'll **** it up with a cgi Seth Rogan as Fezzik and Mike Myers as Vizzini

Back to the Future ET The Princess Bride three never need a do over films

No to remakes

Oh a semi-serious answer, but why? Really? Even when it's inevitably crap, how does it harm the original or your enjoyment of it?

RobbingBandit

A more retched hive of scum and villainy you will never find

jaxxx

Those Disney remakes of the old animated classics are a disgrace. The only decent one thus far is The Jungle Book. Lady & The Tramp seems to be following that trend of poor movies. The trailer looks shockingly bad.

RobbingBandit

riffmongous wrote: »

Oh a semi-serious answer, but why? Really? Even when it's inevitably crap, how does it harm the original or your enjoyment of it?

I present the Will Smith genie of the lamp defence

Will Smith in a live action Aladdin... he might have gotten away with such a travesty when Patch Addams and Bicentennial Man came out but nope he ain't no genie he's a has been getting by on Robin Williams songs and talent now I'm off to shout at the traffic driving by home so late at night, I've got sleeping to do.

Infernal Racket

riffmongous wrote: »

Newtownmountkennedy?

Or anywhere in Leitrim

jaxxx

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I present the Will Smith genie of the lamp defence

Will Smith in a live action Aladdin... he might have gotten away with such a travesty when Patch Addams and Bicentennial Man came out but nope he ain't no genie he's a has been getting by on Robin Williams songs and talent now I'm off to shout at the traffic driving by home so late at night, I've got sleeping to do.

Will Smith's genie was a joke. Alright to be fair, no one could EVER top Robin Williams, but someone could have certainly given something memorable towards it. Smith was just plain awful. Cannot get his singing voice of 'Friend Like Me' out of my head.. .. ..

hank scorpio89

This remaking malarkey is a pet peeve of mine.you get the odd remake that is better than the original but generally they're pants.I hate seeing a remake advertised and thinking some people maybe younger are gonna go see that iys gonna be sh1t and they wont no there is a superior original out there.like the rock is apparently going to be in a big trouble in little china remake.there is only one jack burton and thats kurt russell why remake a masterpiece.its the same with them not letting good movies just die with dignity terminator 11 arnie gets arthritis.watched the new predator movie the other night i nearly threw my own poo at the telly !!but i new the etiquette crowd would disapprove.

moonage

riffmongous wrote: »

I saw today there was talk of doing a remake of the Princess Bride and inevitably a lot of people are against it..

If they do make a new Princess Bride film it wouldn't be a remake. It would be another adaptation of the 1973 novel.

The princess bride would probably be a black gay dude too..

jaxxx

hank scorpio89 wrote: »

This remaking malarkey is a pet peeve of mine.you get the odd remake that is better than the original but generally they're pants.I hate seeing a remake advertised and thinking some people maybe younger are gonna go see that iys gonna be sh1t and they wont no there is a superior original out there.like the rock is apparently going to be in a big trouble in little china remake.there is only one jack burton and thats kurt russell why remake a masterpiece.its the same with them not letting good movies just die with dignity terminator 11 arnie gets arthritis.watched the new predator movie the other night i nearly threw my own poo at the telly !!but i new the etiquette crowd would disapprove.

Hollywood 1000000000000000% out of ideas.

careless sherpa

moonage wrote: »

If they do make a new Princess Bride film it wouldn't be a remake. It would be another adaptation of the 1973 novel.

Shut it poindexter

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

My problem with film remakes is that they are squeezing out original material. Sequels and remakes make up a large part of the cinema pie chart. Television is the most inventive mainstream medium right now. That’s fine but I wish cinema was currently as ambitious. How many talented screenwriters are not getting a shot because churning out a remake or sequel is easier and less of a risk?

Raconteuse

Yeah I suppose we don't have to watch it (found the whole "My childhood is ruined" thing regarding the female Ghostbusters remake to be absurd - as if the movie forced them to go back in time to relive their childhood with this movie instead of that with Bill Murray and co; personally I just ignored the female Ghostbusters) but it just feels disrespectful or something. A watered down version of the original that new audiences might think actually is the original.

And those remakes of '70s and '80s shows like McGyver, Magnum P.I. and Hawaii Five-O - who the hell would watch those?!

Badly Drunk Boy

riffmongous wrote: »

Yeah but the existence of the second won't affect them enjoying the first one

Just say you recommend a classic to a young impressionable person and they watch the inferior remake. They are left thinking "What's supposed to be so great about that? Riffmongous must be some sort of special moron if he thinks that was a all-time great film!".


Remakes are fine if there's a chance that the original will be improved upon. If a film is universally thought to be amazing, there is less room for improvement. How about just remaking bad films? Some films are bad realisations of good stories, so why not do justice to the story by remaking that film?

riffmongous

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Just say you recommend a classic to a young impressionable person and they watch the inferior remake. They are left thinking "What's supposed to be so great about that? Riffmongous must be some sort of special moron if he thinks that was a all-time great film!".


Remakes are fine if there's a chance that the original will be improved upon. If a film is universally thought to be amazing, there is less room for improvement. How about just remaking bad films? Some films are bad realisations of good stories, so why not do justice to the story by remaking that film?

Well I think you'd always qualify it with the year or as the original right? Like when I'd recommend the only decent remake I know, True Grit

beejee

riffmongous wrote: »

I saw today there was talk of a man wobbling his balls inches from my face.

And at first it seems reasonable, but when you think about it,what is the actual problem with it really? No one is forcing me to watch it, I don't have to pay attention if i don't want to, i don't have to pay a cent towards it if i disagree with the ethics of it.

Change my mind

Good to know

rossie1977

The best remakes usually differ greatly from the original be it The Fly, The Thing. They were remakes of pretty unremarkable b movies in name only. Invasion of the body snatchers (78) while not hugely different to the original is still arguably a stronger movie.

Princess Bride is a classic. It's more a cash grab than laziness I feel. Studio sees something beloved and sees more green from modern audience.

And no question Back to the Future will be remade eventually.