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Foreign EU licence to Irish licence question

  • 08-09-2019 6:31pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 118 ✭✭


    I've a Luxembourgish full drivers licence, still in date, which I transferred from a full Irish licence while I lived there. I am back and wish to transfer back to Irish licence. I have made appointment and have all relevant documentation and forms, however, somebody just told me I need a public services card also to get the new licence transferred, is this correct?

    thanks.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Not sure what you need, sorry. But why don't you just keep the Luxembourg license?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 118 ✭✭aodomhnaill


    Not sure what you need, sorry. But why don't you just keep the Luxembourg license?

    Its expiring in 6 months, and it looks like something from Soviet Russia in the 60's. My photo is stapled on through my face. I got it in 2009.

    Also, only surmising but my insurance quote may be a bit 'kinder' as they do differentiate on whether the licence is Full Irish or Full EU, must be a reason for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Its expiring in 6 months, and it looks like something from Soviet Russia in the 60's. My photo is stapled on through my face. I got it in 2009.

    Also, only surmising but my insurance quote may be a bit 'kinder' as they do differentiate on whether the licence is Full Irish or Full EU, must be a reason for that.

    They ask where the test was done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    They ask where the test was done!

    Maybe your insurer does, but plenty ask whether you hold a full Irish or EU license, and when you passed your test rather then where.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 118 ✭✭aodomhnaill


    They ask where the test was done!

    I'm not sure I understand you.

    When getting a quote I am asked my licence type, "Full EU" or "Full Irish" are both options to choose from.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-member-state-of-the-european-union-european-economic-area


    List of requirements above. Public services card is not required. Proof of ppsn number is required though, a list of what they accept for such proof is included in the link.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I'm not sure I understand you.

    When getting a quote I am asked my licence type, "Full EU" or "Full Irish" are both options to choose from.

    If you say Irish, it asks where the test was done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Diablo Verde


    I'm not sure I understand you.

    When getting a quote I am asked my licence type, "Full EU" or "Full Irish" are both options to choose from.

    Had the same situation last year, but my licence was Spanish. Original licence was Irish. Insurance companies definitely quoted me more when I had the Spanish one. For what it's worth, I don't have the public services card and there was no issue changing it back. Think it took a few weeks to get to the new licence.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 118 ✭✭aodomhnaill


    If you say Irish, it asks where the test was done.

    I don't have an Irish licence though? I've an EU Luxembourgish one which only allows me to choose 'Full EU'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 118 ✭✭aodomhnaill


    Had the same situation last year, but my licence was Spanish. Original licence was Irish. Insurance companies definitely quoted me more when I had the Spanish one. For what it's worth, I don't have the public services card and there was no issue changing it back. Think it took a few weeks to get to the new licence.

    thanks...were you asked for Letter of Entitlement/Driver Statement?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Diablo Verde


    Doesn't ring a bell. It was fairly straightforward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    You may not need anything besides the EU licence since you started on an Irish licence
    But it is a requirement

    https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-member-state-of-the-european-union-european-economic-area
    Fully completed application form for a Driving licence D401
    Current or most recent EU/EEA driving licence (if your licence has expired by less than ten years or does not have a category start date you will need to provide an original letter of entitlement / driver statement from the relevant licensing authority)
    If you do not have your most recent driving licence in your possession, you will need to present an original letter of entitlement / driver statement from the appropriate licensing authority and must complete the lost or stolen licence declaration on the application form and have it witnessed by a member of An Garda Síochána
    Certified translations are required for all letters of entitlement / driver statements which are not in English or Irish
    Photographic I.D.
    Proof of your personal public services number (PPSN)
    Evidence of address dated within the last six months is required if your current address is not recorded on your permit and it differs from that provided to the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection (DEASP) if and when you applied for a PSC
    Evidence of residency entitlement, (if you hold a public services card and your place of birth or nationality are within the European Union/European Economic Area, it is adequate to present the PSC)
    Fully completed NDLS medical report form, dated within one month, if required in your case
    Evidence of certificate of professional competence (CPC), if required
    If exchanging a Northern Ireland licence it must be accompanied by the counterpart
    Application fee of €55


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    Recently changed back from a UK licence to Irish having passed my test here. Was an easy process, just need to fill out the form and make sure you have everything on the list Biko posted. if you have the public services card it makes it a bit easier. Took 2 months for mine to be sent out.

    My Irish licence was actually still on the system as expired so I could have just renewed and had 2 licences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    I've a Luxembourgish full drivers licence, still in date, which I transferred from a full Irish licence while I lived there. I am back and wish to transfer back to Irish licence. I have made appointment and have all relevant documentation and forms, however, somebody just told me I need a public services card also to get the new licence transferred, is this correct?

    thanks.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/public-services-card-to-obtain-driving-licence-now-voluntary-1.3442172


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    I've a Luxembourgish full drivers licence, still in date, which I transferred from a full Irish licence while I lived there. I am back and wish to transfer back to Irish licence. I have made appointment and have all relevant documentation and forms, however, somebody just told me I need a public services card also to get the new licence transferred, is this correct?

    thanks.


    I've recently exchanged / renewed by EU license, getting an Irish document in exchange. Technically, all you should need is your original license, the compiled form you can download from the NDSL, a photo ID (other than the license, obviously) and proof of residency in the form of a PPS number - and the fee.



    I used the PSC for booking and as proof of PPS, since I never got my "PPS Card" back when I moved here (I only have the letter).

    thanks...were you asked for Letter of Entitlement/Driver Statement?


    The letter of entitlement / driver statement / license certificate (it's got a different name across different countries) is only needed if the license is expired, lost or some data is unclear / unreadable. I needed to produce it as my Italian license from 1999 had all the dates put on it using...a ballpoint pen, which was standard back then. As it's easy to guess, they had erased themselves over 20 years in a wallet.


    They ask where the test was done!


    Some ask, many others don't, but it doesn't make a difference and it's illegal to discriminate on that basis, as it's an EU document. If you go through a quote and change the fields, you'll find out that "Full Irish" comes out with the same quote, regardless of where the test was taken within the EU - the blatant excuse insurers use to charge EU license holders nearly twice the premium (often charged as much as an Irish Learner Permit holder) is that they can't check how many "penalty points" you have. So, once you switch to a Irish license, that excuse goes away.


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