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Fixing broken grape handle

  • 26-08-2019 3:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭


    I have a broken grape that I am looking to replace the handle on. Normally on the head there is a part that the handle can fit into but this particular one has a solid metal part as if it goes up into the handle. I am not sure how to attach this. I was thinking of drilling a hole smaller than the metal part on the handle and then pushing it into it but worried that it might split the handle. I know it may be just as easy to get a new grape but would like to repair rather than replace!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    It's not the answer you were looking for but I'd price a new grape against just the handle, I don't think they'll be much in the difference. I went too buy a handle for a square headed coal shovel recently and the handle alone was €18, a new shovel was €24. It's nice to reuse stuff but I couldn't be bother pricking about with a handle for the sake of a few euros extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Buy a pike! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Funny but I broke the handle on the hand yard scraper last winter. Bought a new handle and it snapped in no time. Replaced it with a length of metal pipe and it's a fine job now. Not sure but think the pipe might be copper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,217 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It's not the answer you were looking for but I'd price a new grape against just the handle, I don't think they'll be much in the difference. I went too buy a handle for a square headed coal shovel recently and the handle alone was €18, a new shovel was €24. It's nice to reuse stuff but I couldn't be bother pricking about with a handle for the sake of a few euros extra.

    Same here. For the time it will probably take to replace the handle youd have a new complete one cheaper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    I have a broken grape that I am looking to replace the handle on. Normally on the head there is a part that the handle can fit into but this particular one has a solid metal part as if it goes up into the handle. I am not sure how to attach this. I was thinking of drilling a hole smaller than the metal part on the handle and then pushing it into it but worried that it might split the handle. I know it may be just as easy to get a new grape but would like to repair rather than replace!

    Can you put up a picture just till we get a better understanding of the implement?

    If you're worried about splitting just drill the hole 1mm smaller than or same size as the shaft and glue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    I have a broken grape that I am looking to replace the handle on. Normally on the head there is a part that the handle can fit into but this particular one has a solid metal part as if it goes up into the handle. I am not sure how to attach this. I was thinking of drilling a hole smaller than the metal part on the handle and then pushing it into it but worried that it might split the handle. I know it may be just as easy to get a new grape but would like to repair rather than replace!

    Those handles used to be available to buy.

    They usually have a metal ring at the end for extra strength. Maybe a jubilee clip would do.

    (like yourself I'm a fix it upper,)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I would be interested in hearing an answer for this.

    One here too, where the handle was accidentally broken. It has a replacement handle, but it is wobbles. It gets the least use, as there are two more in use.

    If the handle was drilled using a drill bit for timber, and a rawl plug inserted. the next problem would be securing it into the outer shell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    orm0nd wrote: »
    Those handles used to be available to buy.

    They usually have a metal ring at the end for extra strength. Maybe a jubilee clip would do.

    (like yourself I'm a fix it upper,)

    Good thinking, jubilee clip.

    Do you remember where the replacement handles could be bought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Can you put up a picture just till we get a better understanding of the implement?

    If you're worried about splitting just drill the hole 1mm smaller than or same size as the shaft and glue.

    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/the-great-debate-is-it-a-fork-is-it-a-sprong-no-its-a-grape-203817

    Red is red paint, below that is metal ring.
    https://www.topline.ie/garden-outdoors/lawn-garden/garden-tools/forks-hoes-rakes/true-temper/darby/tanged-long-handle-3-prong-hay-fork-48in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Good thinking, jubilee clip.

    Do you remember where the replacement handles could be bought.

    Arrabawn Co op and it's branches had them up to a couple of years ago. Haven't looked since.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Thepillowman


    Bore a hole in the handle has to be done at a slight angle hold fork/grape to handle to get an idea of pitch, iirc tang is about 14mm so bore it 12mm.You will need a pipe around bottom of handle first to stop it splitting about 8 to 10 inches long,as Patsy said copper pipe or something with a light wall .Pipe off a shock absorber works well .will try get a pic of one tomorrow if I have one lying around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    Thanks for the replies. It's not so much about the cheapest option , seems a shame to throw away something that is working fine and just buy a new one because it's cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭148multi


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    I have a broken grape that I am looking to replace the handle on. Normally on the head there is a part that the handle can fit into but this particular one has a solid metal part as if it goes up into the handle. I am not sure how to attach this. I was thinking of drilling a hole smaller than the metal part on the handle and then pushing it into it but worried that it might split the handle. I know it may be just as easy to get a new grape but would like to repair rather than replace!

    That type of handle is still for sale in some hardware and co-op stores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I bought a second hand grape/ sprong/ fork last year in Wexford for some gardening work; it had a bit of woodworm in the handle so I decided to rehandle it. I used the old handle as a template to work from and shaped the new handle accordingly. It's a slow enough job, especially getting the tapered square hole right (drill and small chisel to square up the recess/ mortise), turned out lovely. I happened to see a new grape/ sprong/ fork for sale in an agri/ hardware store about six months later, for not much more than the cost of my old one plus new handle! Still, no matter the old one was an Austrian-made solid one-piece forging. I went on to use part of the old handle (free from worm) to make a handle for an old hammer, I hate waste! Work like this is good for the soul, if you can find the time to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I'm in the habit of giving all handles a brush over with Protim preservative, then when dry a paint spray, especially if they are stored in a shed with firewood which is prone to woodworm.


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