Anyone recommend a good Nugent or ifor william dealer in the north

sonnybill

Need to buy a trailer for cattle/sheep and with stg so reasonable and I’m vat registered I was thinking of heading north .. anyone think it’s a good time or ignore the vat and buy a good second hand one with decks ?

Thanks in advance

Limestone Cowboy

sonnybill wrote: »

Need to buy a trailer for cattle/sheep and with stg so reasonable and I’m vat registered I was thinking of heading north .. anyone think it’s a good time or ignore the vat and buy a good second hand one with decks ?

Thanks in advance

Don't know the dealers but I'd go new and no way would I buy another ifor williams.

Dinzee Conlee

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Don't know the dealers but I'd go new and no way would I buy another ifor williams.

Why not Ifor Limestone?

Wouldn’t know that much about a lot of trailers but i thought ifor decks were a good design...

390kid

For all the bit that can be in it at times a new one could be the way to go. Mccorry agri in derrylin are a nugent agent and seem to shift lots around here. I know a few that bought new ifor Williams trailers and not that impressed with them

wrangler

There was one of these in the carpark at the sheep Ireland sale,
Great looking job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzmRTQy84w

Jenkinson in Littletown was always fairly keen for Ifor Williams trailers
Haven't bought one in a long time though, I always thought Ifor Williams were a bit light for cattle

Limestone Cowboy

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Why not Ifor Limestone?

Wouldn’t know that much about a lot of trailers but i thought ifor decks were a good design...

I don't know about the decks but they are too light for cattle and always rattling and banging. You wouldn't hear a nugent behind you in comparison.

coolshannagh28

http://www.thjenkinson.com/

Albert Johnson

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Why not Ifor Limestone?

Wouldn’t know that much about a lot of trailers but i thought ifor decks were a good design...

I don't know about the decks but they are too light for cattle and always rattling and banging. You wouldn't hear a nugent behind you in comparison.

If it's primarily a sheep trailer and decks are a requirement then I wouldn't look beyond an Ivor Williams. The decks are the easiest and quickest that I've operated which is very important. However if it's mainly cattle you intend hauling then I don't rate the strength of the Ivor Williams, there rattly and generally poorly designed imo. It's little things like the dividing and loading gates that will start to fail almost immediately and the trailer generally falls apart within a few years if it gets any sort of hardship on a regular basis.

For a long lasting trailer I'd vote for either Porter or Hamilton which are both made in the North to the best of my opinion. I know of a Hamilton that's nearly 30 year's old and is still very serviceable despite being on the road every day. The Porter's are the same, bullet proof and are only a good power washing away from looking the same as new. I've no connection to either brand but I'm planning to try a Porter the next time around simply due to the build quality.

satstheway

9x5 porter here. Savage strong.

sonnybill

What about john murphy 12ft x 5 ft 9” with dividing gate and storage tank?

Albert Johnson

sonnybill wrote: »

What about john murphy 12ft x 5 ft 9” with dividing gate and storage tank?

Not that popular this fair North but I wouldn't rate the few I've seen that highly tbh. I loaded 2 heavy cows into an newish 8x5 Murphy lately and the side's and ramp were starting to bow out under the strain. Another lad I work with bought a brand new Murphy and it didn't last 3 years, granted he'd be on the road every day hauling cattle to the factory. We were loading weanlings on it one night at the mart and someone commented as to who's was the jeep with the pram behind it (referring to the Murphy which was held together with tec screws and prayers). Our man didn't acknowledge the dig but had a brand new Tuffmac the following week.

forgottenhills

wrangler wrote: »

There was one of these in the carpark at the sheep Ireland sale,
Great looking job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzmRTQy84w

Nice looking job all right but does it come with that big Union Jack as standard? :P

Albert Johnson

forgottenhills wrote: »

wrangler wrote: »

There was one of these in the carpark at the sheep Ireland sale,
Great looking job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzmRTQy84w

Nice looking job all right but does it come with that big Union Jack as standard? :P

The same thought went through my mind although too be fair it does look to be a serious job with the lifting deck. If you were hauling mostly sheep the headroom would be invaluable, crawling around under the standard decks is no fun in my experience. I'd have reservations about how the deck would stand up to regular use with cattle as I'd imagine you leave the deck lowered to the floor and load the cattle as usual. The weight could warp it over time, I don't think there that common in the UK due to the price premium over other trailers and have yet to see one in this country.

wrangler

Albert Johnson wrote: »

The same thought went through my mind although too be fair it does look to be a serious job with the lifting deck. If you were hauling mostly sheep the headroom would be invaluable, crawling around under the standard decks is no fun in my experience. I'd have reservations about how the deck would stand up to regular use with cattle as I'd imagine you leave the deck lowered to the floor and load the cattle as usual. The weight could warp it over time, I don't think there that common in the UK due to the price premium over other trailers and have yet to see one in this country.

A farmer in mullingar has the one that was at tullamore mart last saturday

razor8

McCorry Agri in Derrylin. Fermanagh just across border is a nugent dealer

Green farmer

You really have to see new trailers in the flesh. I bought last year, but only after test driving a few several different trailers behind the car. I ended up with an ifor despite for all their faults, it towed the smoothest and felt well balanced. I remember being disappointed at how poorly some other trailers towed.

Nekarsulm

razor8 wrote: »

McCorry Agri in Derrylin. Fermanagh just across border is a nugent dealer

He has a couple of S/H Hamiltons at the moment too.
5'9 x12, and 5'9 x 14 I think.
Something like a two year waiting list for them new...

sonnybill

Anyone have a john murphy 12 x 5 9” with dividing gate, storage tank etc that they could give an opinion on?

annubis

bought new off TH jenkinson up north, at the time he was 1000 euros cheaper than dealers down south
had a porter which was very strong but bought new ifor, now the ifor wouldnt be a strong as the porter but seems a good trailer, have it nearly 3 years now,very easy towed, very easy get parts and if you keep tidy very easy sell again
most dealers i asked about porter down south wouldnt trade it in

patsy_mccabe

Falcon cattle trailer. Never heard of them before.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/falcon-cattle-trailer-new-12ft-x-6ft3/22826554

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Falcon cattle trailer. Never heard of them before.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/falcon-cattle-trailer-new-12ft-x-6ft3/22826554

They look almost identical to the last of the hudson trailers.

hopeso

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Falcon cattle trailer. Never heard of them before.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/falcon-cattle-trailer-new-12ft-x-6ft3/22826554

It says 12x6’3 in the ad....If that’s correct, it’s very wide for a trailer with the wheels on the outside.....
I haven’t seen a Falcon trailer either, but I did notice that O’Haire trailers in Co. Mayo had them advertised a few times recently. They look decent enough in the photos anyway...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/falcon-trailers/19635021?campaign=6

Green farmer

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

They look almost identical to the last of the hudson trailers.

I could be wrong because was a few years ago, but I half remember looking at the hudson website, then they were finishing up with light livestock trailers. Think falcon trailers were taking over the division and had bought the plans and manufacturing equipment from Hudson. Could even of been the past workers of Hudson. Apologies if I’m mistaken.