Can most people achieve success?

mr_fegelien

Or is your family's wealth, birth place, and genetics the main determining factor?

Trigger Happy

I think the idea of success is different in most people’s opinion. For me it’s self fulfillment which can be independent of environmental factors but for others it’s not.

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Just set the bar low and you can achieve it

martinedwards

It depends on where you aim.

If a person has learning difficulties, they are unlikely to become a leading surgeon, even if they try REALLY hard.

on the other hand, Britain's second highest selling author has serious dyslexia, and says he wrote his first book before he'd read one (Jamie Oliver).

EVERYONE is capable of success. but how that success is defined? whole different matter!

Leg End Reject

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Or is your family's wealth, birth place, and genetics the main determining factor?

Intelligence, ambition and work ethic would be more factors.

Fanny Wank

Listen to your mother, kids. Aim low. Aim so low, no one will even care if you succeed.

Dinner's in the oven. You want some butter, it's under my face.

Junkyard Tom

Define success?

mr_fegelien

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Define success?

Being able to take care of your needs without trouble (food, water shelter) and being able to pursuing leisure/ personal interests.

Airyfairy12

Anyone can be successful with the right connections, without connections its nearly impossible to get anywhere.

ILoveYourVibes

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Or is your family's wealth, birth place, and genetics the main determining factor?

Its a determining factor.

There is also sheer luck though.

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ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its a determining factor.

There is also sheer luck though.

And hard work, drive and determination are required too.

ChikiChiki

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Define success?

A mental state that is the most stable and positive it can be, good health and surrounded by a circle of people that would do anything for you and likewise you them.

I'd give anything to have that mental state. My mind play horrors on me. Physical health and friendships I have in abundance. I live comfortably earn a very good wage but it does not make me happy.

I definitely do not define success by materialistic items or the size of the bank account.

ILoveYourVibes

Taliyah Blue Doctor wrote: »

And hard work, drive and determination are required too.

Sadly that isn't true.

mr_fegelien

ChikiChiki wrote: »

A mental state that is the most stable and positive it can be, good health and surrounded by a circle of people that would do anything for you and likewise you them.

I'd give anything to have that mental state. My mind play horrors on me. Physical health and friendships I have in abundance. I live comfortably earn a very good wage but it does not make me happy.

I definitely do not define success by materialistic items or the size of the bank account.

But with adequate figures in your bank account, you can afford better healthcare.

Also if Ireland were to become a third world ****hole, I guarantee, that the mental health of the country would get worse nevermind the lack of healthcare for diseases like cancer.

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ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Sadly that isn't true.

It most certainly is. I know dozens of successful people who do not come from any wealthy background whatsoever, were born in many different countries, come from all sorts of social backgrounds, and not from a long line of achievers. But, by working hard, having clear objectives and a passion to succeed, they did just that. If success is being a multi millionaire then the OPs factors do come in to play to an extent for some but even so I know three businessmen in this country alone who are now worth multiple millions through their drive, determination and sheer hard work, having come from ordinary working class backgrounds.

Your Face

In a manner of speaking, the answer would be yes and no, taking into consideration, the necessary precautions of course.

HamSarris

People who are financially secure or right wing: It’s all about hard work, getting up early in the morning, ambition, never letting any obstacle get in your way.

People who are financially insecure or leftist: It’s all about what family you’re born into, luck, connections.

Research: 50% of the variance in people’s outcomes in life are due to factors outside of their control and 50% within their control.

So people never answer this question logically, but will answer in a way that makes them feel good about themselves. Interestingly though, if you want to increase your motivation, research suggests you should try and trick yourself into believing success is all down to hard work.

Mad_maxx

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Intelligence, ambition and work ethic would be more factors.

And a little bit of blooming luck

Always Tired

martinedwards wrote: »

It depends on where you aim.

If a person has learning difficulties, they are unlikely to become a leading surgeon, even if they try REALLY hard.

on the other hand, Britain's second highest selling author has serious dyslexia, and says he wrote his first book before he'd read one (Jamie Oliver).

EVERYONE is capable of success. but how that success is defined? whole different matter!

He's not an author by any stretch. Almost all those books by famous people have majority of writing done by ghostwriters and editors. The 'author' basically will give them interview sessions and transcribe everything.

Studies have shown that the social class you are born into is likely to be where you end up.

Blaizes

Success is relative but I think having a good personality goes a long way and I think people who are willing to take risks, branch out career wise, start a business, invest in shares, different things like that.
Success won’t happen to any degree sitting at home got to get out there. My two cents anyway and based on what I see. Luck is a factor too.

One eyed Jack

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Or is your family's wealth, birth place, and genetics the main determining factor?

Family wealth, birth place and genetics can be either contributing or detrimental factors to ones success. The problem isn’t achieving success, it’s maintaining it.

Wealth, genetics and birthplace can certainly maximise the opportunities for success but it's also something you actively need to pursue. And it's definition is so variable. For a person with serious health issues it can be just getting through the day. For a person with depression it can be getting dressed. For Donald Trump it can avoiding a Twitter-related diplomatic incident for more than a week.

BorneTobyWilde

MAYBE WE should try an experiment. Set up an online business, whos in

Capt'n Midnight

Moving goalposts. The trick is to find the open goals.

GCSE maths: Pupils needed 397 marks out of 400 for A* grade

It was 366 out of 400 in Irish and 363 out of 400 in learning for life and work.

In English literature the A* grade boundary was 181 out of 200, while in further maths it was 182 out of 200.

Church on Tuesday

Taliyah Blue Doctor wrote: »

And hard work, drive and determination are required too.

This. Yes you do need a break from time to time but to put yourself in the position to get a break, you first need to do all of the above and keep doing it.

Snow Garden

I worked in several large multinationals for many years. Mainly for short term contracts.

I always found it sad that people drew all their esteem, ego and happiness from within the microcosm of their particular work environment. Their performance rating and band/title was so so very important to them. What their manager thought of them was all they could think about. Many people let it define their status and happiness in life. These people were often the workaholics that the multinational would gladly abuse by letting them waste their lives and health doing 60+ hour weeks. They would often realise it when it was too late. I would always advise people to move jobs after 5 or 6 years for this reason. It provides perspective.

Fr_Dougal

They can