Food on long spin

who_ru

Hi

Besides gels, what food do you find best or most effective on long spins? Have a decent spin coming up soon so just wondering what options others choose.

nilhg

who_ru wrote: »

Hi

Besides gels, what food do you find best or most effective on long spins? Have a decent spin coming up soon so just wondering what options others choose.

Long spin means different thing to different people but in general I'd say eat pretty much exactly as you would off the bike and top up any extra energy needs with an odd banana or energy bar.

Tell me how

How long is long, timewise?
Is route going via a spot where you could stop for tea/coffee?

On my 6hr spins I used to eat porridge/banana etc before going, wouldn't eat in hour 1 or 2 and then have 1 all natural energy bar per hour after that and have 2 gels for use if I felt they were necessary but that varied from day to day.

If I stopped, I'd have a tea and a brownie or small piece of cake but wouldn't have had a regular lunch type meal.

It's unique to each rider really. Would suggest isotonics in at least 1 water bottle.

Macy0161

who_ru wrote: »

Hi

Besides gels, what food do you find best or most effective on long spins? Have a decent spin coming up soon so just wondering what options others choose.

I don't use gels. Never had any issue with them (I used to use them when I did tri's) but I'd just rather eat something real. I'd quite often start off with sandwiches, and then move on to granola bars or and bananas. I may or may not have a breakfast, but I aim to have something every hour (on top of the bottles below)

My one concession to the marketing is I do use carb/ electrolyte drink mix - handy when you might not get to stop. I quite liked the SIS Go Electrolyte Blackcurrent. Currently using Isostar Hydrate and Perform I got in a pack for returning my number in Liege. But I have a pack of Fructose, a pack of maltodextrine ready to go to mix my own when that runs out (if I don't see a bargain come up). I already use powered electrolytes which I just mix with cordial!

It's taken me years to cop it, but I find fueling the spins mean I'm less liable to binge afterwards.

magicbastarder

i usually get out for a max of two and a half to three hours these days, so have some grub about half an hour before my spin, and then a banana at 1 hour in and another an hour later.

fat bloke

Uch. Gels. I went through a phase of them for a few years now unless I was racing or really at the end of my tether on a long hard spin, I couldn't stomach their slimy sugariness. Gave up that high 5 sugary bottle stuff as well.
Eat what you like to eat. I do tend to bring like a cliff bar or something with me as a "in case of emergency break glass" snack but it frequently remains uneaten and goes back in the helmet on the shelf when I get home.

hesker

Though I’ve never raced I tried a gel once on a long spin, never again. Too sweet.

Sambos, choc biscuits, water. If I eat early enough and often enough I’ll have decent energy at the end of a long spin. Longest spins wouldn’t be more than 150km mind

brownian

Long? For an audax 200, I'd stop every 50k, with the other lads, and we'd usually have coffee, a banana and a scone or similar. A sandwich at 100k, and maybe another coffee/sweetie at 150.

For a typical 100k spin, might hit coffee and a scone around half-way. Nobody said 'healthy', right!?

Always have a snickers in the saddle bag - if I don't bonk, someone else may do. They last for ever, never go off, very tolerant of hot/cold, and a BIT less disgusting than gels.

Used to put sugar etc in the water bottles, but don't any more.

07Lapierre

fat bloke wrote: »

Uch. Gels. I went through a phase of them for a few years now unless I was racing or really at the end of my tether on a long hard spin, I couldn't stomach their slimy sugariness. Gave up that high 5 sugary bottle stuff as well.
Eat what you like to eat. I do tend to bring like a cliff bar or something with me as a "in case of emergency break glass" snack but it frequently remains uneaten and goes back in the helmet on the shelf when I get home.

Agree... only 2 reasons to use gels.

1. Your in a race and can't stop and eat real food.
2. Your doing a timed sportive event and you've stopped at the first few feed zones and eaten real food. Now it's 2pm, its 35 degrees, your both mentally and physically exhausted and the thought of eating anything makes you want to puke! Now is the time to get that last gel down your throat and wash it down with some water and just keep going and get to the finish!

07Lapierre

brownian wrote: »

Used to put sugar etc in the water bottles, but don't any more.

I used to buy a bag of glucose and add a tablespoon to a 500ml bottle of water. Not sure if it did any good though.

CramCycle

Stop for a meal somewhere, if a long spin of 8 + hours, otherwise, a coffee

Macy0161

Looks like I eat loads as it turns out. However, I'd still say my overall consumption is down on days of long spins compared to when I ate less on the bike!

keep a packet of jelly babies in my pocket, much nicer than gels:)

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Deleted User wrote: »

keep a packet of jelly babies in my pocket, much nicer than gels:)

True.
I bonked just 8km from home one day and thought I had nothing but found a packet of buttons I had forgotten I had bought. It felt like within 1Km after taking them that I was feeling their benefits.

Getting the right combination of liquids is important. I wouldn't go for all isotonic but rather 50/50 with straight water works well for me.
Really like the SIS Lime powder mix. Expensive though so keep an eye out for deals. Same with the energy bars, bye in bulk to keep cost down.

CantGetNoSleep

I go for every 45 mins - bar, banana, bar, gel etc. Anything above 3.5 or 4 hours I try to have some real food like a sandwich or slice of cake from time to time. Have actually set my Garmin to give a little beep every 45 mins to remind me to eat.

Usually 750ml water and 750ml lemon isotonic mix too but depends on route (petrol stations to stop) and climbing

Wishbone Ash

Hard to beat a cold can of full fat Coke and a pack of fruit pastilles if energy is dipping. Otherwise stop and eat real food.

I don't do gels as they upset my stomach nor do I add anything to water bottles.

CramCycle

Jelly babies are awesome.

So is a fry up

So are full Sunday dinners

Forget what I said before, on a proper long spin you will eat anything and love it.

dahat

I use a sports drink from Named as whatever stuff in it has more or less cured my cramping issues or at least that's what I think.

As for food, jelly babies, banana and a bar with 2 get me home gels of 3hrs plus with intervals. You can't beat Tesco Jelly Babies for 50c, feck that brand stuff. The good old coke/coffee stop with a bun/bar of choice is a pretty good option if flagging after halfway round.

Like any part of life just eat enough but don't over indulge, you shouldn't need to gorge at home if you have eaten enough on the spin.

Macy0161

Tell me how wrote: »

Same with the energy bars, bye in bulk to keep cost down.

GCN Energy Bars (as per the recipe but I swap the oil for butter or coconut oil) are really nice. Only thing I've found as nice are Clif Bars, but I really don't like the price.

dahat wrote:

Like any part of life just eat enough but don't over indulge, you shouldn't need to gorge at home if you have eaten enough on the spin.

I know it'd be more about training and racing than just a spin, but the TrainerRoad podcast has covered this a few times with outside experts/ pro's as well as their in house qualified coaches - they reckon before and during you should be eating what you expect to output. I kinda go half way on that, as I do like the spin to set up my weekly beer and crisps night!

dahat

dahat wrote: »

I use a sports drink from Named as whatever stuff in it has more or less cured my cramping issues or at least that's what I think.

As for food, jelly babies, banana and a bar with 2 get me home gels of 3hrs plus with intervals. You can't beat Tesco Jelly Babies for 50c, feck that brand stuff. The good old coke/coffee stop with a bun/bar of choice is a pretty good option if flagging after halfway round.

Like any part of life just eat enough but don't over indulge, you shouldn't need to gorge at home if you have eaten enough on the spin.

As someone who spent 5 long years working in a factory making jelly babies, I have to say the Aldi ones are superior

godtabh

I'll always have a cereal bar in my pocket. How many I bring depends on the ride but at least 1 an hour for anything over 2 hours. Under two hours I generally wouldnt bring anything.

dahat

Macy0161 wrote: »

GCN Energy Bars (as per the recipe but I swap the oil for butter or coconut oil) are really nice. Only thing I've found as nice are Clif Bars, but I really don't like the price.


I know it'd be more about training and racing than just a spin, but the TrainerRoad podcast has covered this a few times with outside experts/ pro's as well as their in house qualified coaches - they reckon before and during you should be eating what you expect to output. I kinda go half way on that, as I do like the spin to set up my weekly beer and crisps night!

I've been experimenting with bars myself vua Food flicker on Insta, can get 10-12 bars for less than 2 Cliff bars. The recipe does need adjusting though as it's more protein based so more fruit less nuts I'd say.

dahat

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As someone who spent 5 long years working in a factory making jelly babies, I have to say the Aldi ones are superior

The only downfall with Aldi ones is they have way more powdered sugar on them which is messy on the hands in a race, that's the only reason I don't use them.

Macy0161

dahat wrote: »

I've been experimenting with bars myself vua Food flicker on Insta, can get 10-12 bars for less than 2 Cliff bars. The recipe does need adjusting though as it's more protein based so more fruit less nuts I'd say.

Must look that up.

I've made rice cakes a few times as well (Lim recipe, sky recipe if people want to google etc.) - they work well, but too much faff to make. I just keep coming back to the GCN ones.

magicbastarder

also, don't buy sugar free jelly babies by accident, i believe necking too many causes laxative effects.

CramCycle

magicbastarder wrote: »

also, don't buy sugar free jelly babies by accident, i believe necking too many causes laxative effects.

The Diabetic chocolate certainly does.

Wishbone Ash

magicbastarder wrote: »

also, don't buy sugar free jelly babies by accident, i believe necking too many causes laxative effects.

Wouldn't sugar free ones defeat the purpose of providing an energy boost anyway? A bit like when people drink diet Coke during a cycle. Or am I missing something?

magicbastarder

that was what i meant by 'by accident', as they'd be of little use.

CramCycle

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Wouldn't sugar free ones defeat the purpose of providing an energy boost anyway? A bit like when people drink diet Coke during a cycle. Or am I missing something?

Diet coke tastes better, is refreshing and has caffeine, I'd sooner collapse in a hedgegrow than drink regular coke. Just an opinion

dahat

Macy0161 wrote: »

Must look that up.

I've made rice cakes a few times as well (Lim recipe, sky recipe if people want to google etc.) - they work well, but too much faff to make. I just keep coming back to the GCN ones.

These are no bake, just set in the fridge. Made a tray in 8 mins this morning with dark chocolate melted on top. The rough calories for mine are 170-200 per bar depending on size.
Rice bars are nice once someone else makes them as you know, far too much bother.

CramCycle

CramCycle wrote: »

Diet coke tastes better, is refreshing and has caffeine, I'd sooner collapse in a hedgegrow than drink regular coke. Just an opinion

Hadn't drank a regular coke in years until recently when we were out for lunch with the kids and they had no coke zero. I quite like the Zero one and even the diet stuff if the mood takes me, it is as you say nicely refreshing but the regular stuff made me want to puke after the first mouthful.

Used to love a can of fanta if I was stopping at a shop during or after a spin but thats horrible stuff these days.

Macy0161

Another vote for coke zero/ diet coke on hot spin days here - it's the refreshing aspect I'm after rather than the sugar. Especially as it's normally at a cafe stop that already involves something sweet to eat.

dahat wrote: »

These are no bake, just set in the fridge. Made a tray in 8 mins this morning with dark chocolate melted on top. The rough calories for mine are 170-200 per bar depending on size.
Rice bars are nice once someone else makes them as you know, far too much bother.

I found the recipe below on his facebook. Will try over the weekend.

No Bake Bar
Mix 100g nuts, 100g dried fruit & mixed seeds with 100g oats, 100g chopped dark chocolate, 4 scoops of whey and a little honey and a drop of milk.
Then into a lined flat baking tin, spread, pack tight and place in the fridge to set.
Chop them up into desired size

magicbastarder

i like coke and can drink coke zero, but there's just a je ne sais quoi about the taste of diet coke that i really don't like drinking it.

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magicbastarder wrote: »

i like coke and can drink coke zero, but there's just a je ne sais quoi about the taste of diet coke that i really don't like drinking it.

Same here. I expect to see a Skull and Bones motif on the side of the can.

CramCycle

magicbastarder wrote: »

i like coke and can drink coke zero, but there's just a je ne sais quoi about the taste of diet coke that i really don't like drinking it.

Tell me how wrote: »

Same here. I expect to see a Skull and Bones motif on the side of the can.

Its funny how opinions can be wrong

dahat

Macy0161 wrote: »

Another vote for coke zero/ diet coke on hot spin days here - it's the refreshing aspect I'm after rather than the sugar. Especially as it's normally at a cafe stop that already involves something sweet to eat.


I found the recipe below on his facebook. Will try over the weekend.

Yeah, that's what I've been using. I started blitzing the nuts as on the bike a large almond can be troublesome!!! You'll need a good bit of honey to bind it all and compress it as much as possible in the tin.

Mickiemcfist

magicbastarder wrote: »

also, don't buy sugar free jelly babies by accident, i believe necking too many causes laxative effects.

Completely Off topic:
If you haven't read the reviews of Haribo sugar free gummy bears, prepare for a laugh:

https://www.amazon.com/Haribo-SUGAR-Classic-Gummi-Bears/product-reviews/B006J1FBLM

fat bloke

I'm a coke zero fanatic, I'm constantly drinking the stuff, but you (literally) "can't beat the real thing" if you're struggling on the bike. I've found nothing else this side of a banned substance list to give me the "giddy-up" better than pulling the pin on a full sugar red hand grenade. -I'd never touch one off the bike, and try to limit them to when I really need it but it never fails to deliver the goods for me anyway!