Why are most people so afraid to ask for a raise in salary?

pgj2015

I see it a lot, people who seem afraid to ask for a raise, they complain that they arent paid enough and havent got a raise in years but when you advise them to ask for a raise they say they might soon or they will next year etc.
when i was working for an employer, I asked for 3 raises in 4 years, I got the first 3, then when they didnt give me the 4th i left the job.

what is the worst they think will happen?

jcorr

pgj2015 wrote: »

I see it a lot, people who seem afraid to ask for a raise, they complain that they arent paid enough and havent got a raise in years but when you advise them to ask for a raise they say they might soon or they will next year etc.
when i was working for an employer, I asked for 3 raises in 4 years, I got the first 3, then when they didnt give me the 4th i left the job.

what is the worst they think will happen?

You're brilliant. It's a pity there wasn't two of you. Hahaha.

completedit

I think because if the employer refuses it's like a hit to their ego/self-esteem. They won't feel valued and know if rejected, they'll feel inferior and will grow to resent the job they do. Kind of like loss aversion.

pgj2015

jcorr wrote: »

You're brilliant. It's a pity there wasn't two of you. Hahaha.

waste of a post.

BDI

Last year I told my colleagues that I was refused a payrise because of brexit. The following year I asked for another payrise and the boss agreed but on the condition I spread the brexit rumour again.
He approved two payrises but as far as I can tell saved himself a fortune.
Smart guy.

dirtyden

pgj2015 wrote: »

I see it a lot, people who seem afraid to ask for a raise, they complain that they arent paid enough and havent got a raise in years but when you advise them to ask for a raise they say they might soon or they will next year etc.
when i was working for an employer, I asked for 3 raises in 4 years, I got the first 3, then when they didnt give me the 4th i left the job.

what is the worst they think will happen?

Where do you see this. I would have thought most people look for a pay review at least once a year. I don’t know many in my line of work who would not discuss their wage with their manager.

pgj2015

dirtyden wrote: »

Where do you see this. I would have thought most people look for a pay review at least once a year. I don’t know many in my line of work who would not discuss their wage with their manager.

just people i meet, family, friends etc

Greyfox

pgj2015 wrote: »

I see it a lot, people who seem afraid to ask for a raise, they complain that they arent paid enough and havent got a raise in years but when you advise them to ask for a raise they say they might soon or they will next year etc.

Some people know that the answer is going to be no before they ask, lots of companies dont actually care about keeping employees

BDI

Greyfox wrote: »

Some people know that the answer is going to be no before they ask, lots of companies dont actually care about keeping employees

I think it’s more so that a lot of people know that they don’t really deserve more money than they got last year.

If a guy comes to a businessman and asks for more money just because the businessman’s networking, salesmanship and business acumen supplies him with another year of employment should he give it to him?

Usually a guy who is there 20 years puts in a quarter of the effort a new guy puts in. If you are working driving a bus for 20 years and still drive the bus why should you get more money for being there one more year.

It encourages a culture of staff who think their boss has a monopoly and a bottomless pit of money.

I suppose it explains most state run jobs.

Fr_Dougal

You have to change employer to get a decent rise, IMHO.

The Rape of Lucretia

BDI wrote: »

Last year I told my colleagues that I was refused a payrise because of brexit. The following year I asked for another payrise and the boss agreed but on the condition I spread the brexit rumour again.
He approved two payrises but as far as I can tell saved himself a fortune.
Smart guy.

Maybe smarter than you think.
You know he is willing to be party to a lie. So possibly your colleagues got bigger pay rises than you on the condition they dont reveal it to you and go along with your Brexit rumour.

Greyfox

BDI wrote: »

Usually a guy who is there 20 years puts in a quarter of the effort a new guy puts in. If you are working driving a bus for 20 years and still drive the bus why should you get more money for being there one more year.

In a ideal world an employer should be rewarding the guy for staying with the company, not every year but even every few years. The guy there for 20 years doesnt push himself as he doesnt see an incentive to push himself.

pgj2015

BDI wrote: »

I think it’s more so that a lot of people know that they don’t really deserve more money than they got last year.

If a guy comes to a businessman and asks for more money just because the businessman’s networking, salesmanship and business acumen supplies him with another year of employment should he give it to him?

Usually a guy who is there 20 years puts in a quarter of the effort a new guy puts in. If you are working driving a bus for 20 years and still drive the bus why should you get more money for being there one more year.

It encourages a culture of staff who think their boss has a monopoly and a bottomless pit of money.

I suppose it explains most state run jobs.

Because of inflation maybe?

BDI

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Maybe smarter than you think.
You know he is willing to be party to a lie. So possibly your colleagues got bigger pay rises than you on the condition they dont reveal it to you and go along with your Brexit rumour.

I got the payrise. Maybe he got more of a payrise than me but he earned it. I don’t get ye.

BDI

pgj2015 wrote: »

Because of inflation maybe?

If you are doing the same job and the same responsibility after a year maybe inflation is the markets way of telling you something.

Greyfox

BDI wrote: »

If you are doing the same job and the same responsibility after a year maybe inflation is the markets way of telling you something.

Or it might not be worth your while taking on more responsibility

Still waters

BDI wrote: »

If you are doing the same job and the same responsibility after a year maybe inflation is the markets way of telling you something.

What ?

BDI

Still waters wrote: »

What ?

If you come into your boss and tell him you need a payrise with the reason your rent price has risen even though you are still doing the same amount of work you did last year, why should he be the one to give you and your landlord a payrise?

Should he raise his prices or reduce his profits to accommodate that?

antodeco

pgj2015 wrote: »

Because of inflation maybe?

In fairness, I'd assume part of his job is keeping the tyres full of air.

Still waters

BDI wrote: »

If you come into your boss and tell him you need a payrise with the reason your rent price has risen even though you are still doing the same amount of work you did last year, why should he be the one to give you and your landlord a payrise?

Should he raise his prices or reduce his profits to accommodate that?

Got you now, in that case its up to the employee to make do with what they have or upskill/move jobs i suppose

dotsman

pgj2015 wrote: »

Because of inflation maybe?

And what causes inflation?