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Police Officers shot in Philadelphia

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Police presence is massive. Gunman or gunmen must have assault rifles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Police presence is massive. Gunman or gunmen must have assault rifles.

    No life threatening injuries apparently. If they had assault rifles it's very unlikely none of the 6 officers would be more badly wounded. Regular body armour will stop small calibre and that's about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    sdanseo wrote: »
    No life threatening injuries apparently. If they had assault rifles it's very unlikely none of the 6 officers would be more badly wounded. Regular body armour will stop small calibre and that's about it.

    I heard on the scanner he has ARs and handguns, could turn out to be wrong., There must be a reason it taking them so long to storm the building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Jesus, even after officers being wounded, zero respect being shown to them.


    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1161802637903302656


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Posts moved from El Paso shooting thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Seems to have been a narcotics warrant gone pear shaped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Nothing new unfortunately ,raids ending in shootouts is pretty common,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    If only they were armed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The response by police was largely overkill from the look on the outside. Entire blocks of the city shut down by dozens of patrol cars that swarmed the scene, some of them there at that time just to stand around and huff. A great big live TV signal to everyone that virtually all other law enforcement activities had come to a screeching halt in the city of brotherly love.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Temple University science building was under shut down during the standoff. Temple was one of the three colleges my youngest was considering, but her sister who is attending another university said one of her professors came to their university because he used be at Temple and feared for his life... so he left for safer pastures. The youngest chose another university to attend instead… in Washington, DC… not any safer, unfortunately. Many urban centers in the US have become cesspools. And democrats (especially those running for POTUS) condemning the police left and right, and demanding lenient sentences for criminals, unfortunately embolden criminals against the police.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,554 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Jesus, even after officers being wounded, zero respect being shown to them.


    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1161802637903302656

    You earn that kind of respect after years of good community policing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Overheal wrote: »
    The response by police was largely overkill from the look on the outside. Entire blocks of the city shut down by dozens of patrol cars that swarmed the scene, some of them there at that time just to stand around and huff. A great big live TV signal to everyone that virtually all other law enforcement activities had come to a screeching halt in the city of brotherly love.


    Overkill? 7 police officers shot and 2 held hostage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Someone in America has been shot shocker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Shooter is black. Fox news is very happy they can show pictures of this one on the website and discuss his ethnicity. It's complicated for them when the shooter is white. You can only tell the ethnicity is white by absence of reference to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Shooter is black. Fox news is very happy they can show pictures of this one on the website and discuss his ethnicity. It's complicated for them when the shooter is white. You can only tell the ethnicity is white by absence of reference to it.

    I wonder if they’ll make this one all about mental health or just go straight to Soros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Overheal wrote: »
    I wonder if they’ll make this one all about mental health or just go straight to Soros

    Straight up Black man is a criminal story. Fox news bread and butter. No need for mental health. In fact I'm,sure they'll ridicule the mental health idea "this guy has a rap sheet as long as your arm, are you telling me it's not his fault because the poor guy is mentally Ill?".

    Guns don't kill people, black people kill people. This is meat and drink for fox news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    As you said, I didn't defend the shooter - Who ever defended a shooter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    He doesn’t seem interested in backing up that argument


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Shooter is black. Fox news is very happy they can show pictures of this one on the website and discuss his ethnicity. It's complicated for them when the shooter is white. You can only tell the ethnicity is white by absence of reference to it.
    would it be better if Fox just stuck to the same narrative as all the other major networks ABC, CBS, NBC? what's life without a bit of variety?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    would it be better if Fox just stuck to the same narrative as all the other major networks ABC, CBS, NBC? what's life without a bit of variety?

    We'll, I think all American news is just entertainment so it makes little difference. I just find it interesting that you can tell the ethnicity of a shooter by looking at the website.

    Brown Muslim shooter: TERROR ALERT
    Black shooter: picture of the black shooter
    White American shooter: no picture, no name, suspect referred to as the 'suspect'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    We'll, I think all American news is just entertainment so it makes little difference. I just find it interesting that you can tell the ethnicity of a shooter by looking at the website.

    Brown Muslim shooter: TERROR ALERT
    Black shooter: picture of the black shooter
    White American shooter: no picture, no name, suspect referred to as the 'suspect'

    Is that not just because the majority of the time, your "black shooter" is known to the police, has already been arrested multiple times and so there are plenty of mug shots available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Is that not just because the majority of the time, your "black shooter" is known to the police, has already been arrested multiple times and so there are plenty of mug shots available?

    Yeah. I suppose that could be one reason. But you can get pictures of people of you want them. Facebook instagram etc.

    I wonder why they are so quick to put the TERROR ALERT banner when the situation is ongoing when it's a brown Muslim. But resist calling a white American shooter a terrorist at all costs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Yeah. I suppose that could be one reason. But you can get pictures of people of you want them. Facebook instagram etc.

    I wonder why they are so quick to put the TERROR ALERT banner when the situation is ongoing when it's a brown Muslim. But resist calling a white American shooter a terrorist at all costs

    Thats assuming you know exactly who they are, when they are known to the police the police are telling you who they are so you have a positive ID.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    We'll, I think all American news is just entertainment so it makes little difference. I just find it interesting that you can tell the ethnicity of a shooter by looking at the website.

    Brown Muslim shooter: TERROR ALERT
    Black shooter: picture of the black shooter
    White American shooter: no picture, no name, suspect referred to as the 'suspect'

    would you ever get over yourself , criminal who is black machine guns police and your claiming a conspiracy because the news have a picture of him and the police over reacted ?

    guy with a machine gun shoot at police
    criminal history of violence
    hostile crowed attacking the police
    Id love to see how youd react ,

    One of the best examples of keyboard warriors in a while

    heres a list of identified by name and photo white mass shooters for you to check out while you plan your next rant

    https://news.sky.com/story/why-are-white-men-more-likely-to-carry-out-mass-shootings-11252808


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    would you ever get over yourself , criminal who is black machine guns police and your claiming a conspiracy because the news have a picture of him and the police over reacted ?

    guy with a machine gun shoot at police
    criminal history of violence
    hostile crowed attacking the police
    Id love to see how youd react ,

    One of the best examples of keyboard warriors in a while

    heres a list of identified by name and photo white mass shooters for you to check out while you plan your next rant

    https://news.sky.com/story/why-are-white-men-more-likely-to-carry-out-mass-shootings-11252808
    Do me a massive favour and quote the but where I suggested the police over reacted. Otherwise take it back, please. Cheers.

    I'll take absence of a response as an apology.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Do me a massive favour and quote the but where I suggested the police over reacted. Otherwise take it back, please. Cheers.

    I'll take absence of a response as an apology.

    and all the other points i made ?

    i wouldn't take anything as an apology unless its offered if i were you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    and all the other points i made ?

    i wouldn't take anything as an apology unless its offered if i were you

    OK. Just start by quoting the bit where I did what you said - suggested the police over reacted. Cheers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    OK. Just start by quoting the bit where I did what you said - suggested the police over reacted. Cheers.

    na i ll await your response first ,

    tell us how you would deal with it please

    il accept your inability to do so as a apology :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    na i ll await your response first ,

    tell us how you would deal with it please

    il accept your inability to do so as a apology :rolleyes:

    No problem. I'll go first. You misread the entire meaning of my post. I said (in the previous posts) that you can tell the ethnicity of shooters in an ongoing scene from how Fox News deals with them. Muslim, black American or white American. So showing me a link so sky news wasn't really relevant, was it?

    Are you going to show me what lead to you thinking I suggested the police over reacted, or not?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    This is clearly a case of a black supremacist terrorism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Jesus, even after officers being wounded, zero respect being shown to them.


    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1161802637903302656

    if you're not familiar with the MOVE bombing, look it up and you'll soon see why black people in Philly don't have respect for the police (and that's only the most famous incident, they've long had a reputation as thugs)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    if you're not familiar with the MOVE bombing, look it up and you'll soon see why black people in Philly don't have respect for the police (and that's only the most famous incident, they've long had a reputation as thugs)

    From what I'm reading the non-MOVE members of that neighbourhood weren't too fond of MOVE and called in the Police...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    GreeBo wrote: »
    From what I'm reading the non-MOVE members of that neighbourhood weren't too fond of MOVE and called in the Police...

    Is that the one where the police dropped a bomb on the house from a helicopter? Only time a US police force has bombed anywhere in the US. I heard about that on a stuff you should know podcast. They sounded like a pain in the hole to the neighbours and they had some weird and abusive practices. Like children couldn't way cooked food so they ate raw chicken. Mental.

    The police let themselves down that time though. They opened fire on the house and made official reports that the residents fired an automatic gun at them first. Then it turned out the MOVE residents didn't have any automatic guns. Only the police had automatically guns. So... Police probably fired first into a house with children in.

    Then they doused it with water cannons and when they bombed it and it caught fire, they stopped the water cannon and used the fire as a weapon against the MOVE propel. Bad behaviour from the police when the time came.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Is that the one where the police dropped a bomb on the house from a helicopter? Only time a US police force has bombed anywhere in the US. I heard about that on a stuff you should know podcast. They sounded like a pain in the hole to the neighbours and they had some weird and abusive practices. Like children couldn't way cooked food so they ate raw chicken. Mental.

    The police let themselves down that time though. They opened fire on the house and made official reports that the residents fired an automatic gun at them first. Then it turned out the MOVE residents didn't have any automatic guns. Only the police had automatically guns. So... Police probably fired first into a house with children in.

    Then they doused it with water cannons and when they bombed it and it caught fire, they stopped the water cannon and used the fire as a weapon against the MOVE propel. Bad behaviour from the police when the time came.

    That's a very different and biased version compared to what I read...
    Bombing is mental though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    GreeBo wrote: »
    That's a very different and biased version compared to what I read...
    Bombing is mental though

    All I know is from the stuff you should know podcast. Seemed to be drawing on facts of the case and court records, but I don't know anything else. What did you hear different?


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