Pitfalls in buying a 11 year old range rover

Cyrus

Saw this and thought it looked pretty good for a 11 year old car,

tell me all the reasons i shouldnt entertain buying it :P

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-range-rover-hse-tdv8-low-mileage-1-owner/21989885

Stallingrad

Cyrus wrote: »

Saw this and thought it looked pretty good for a 11 year old car,

tell me all the reasons i shouldnt entertain buying it :P

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-range-rover-hse-tdv8-low-mileage-1-owner/21989885

I can think of 17,999. Is that price a joke?

MetzgerMeister

My boss has a 2007 model. Injectors were an issue and were very expensive to replace. There's a coolant pipe at the back of the engine that breaks down and costs a fortune to replace.

Remember, these cars were premium and that one would have cost a lot in 2008. Buying it now (even at a lower, more realistic price) is grand but the parts are still brand new.

Cyrus

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

My boss has a 2007 model. Injectors were an issue and were very expensive to replace. There's a coolant pipe at the back of the engine that breaks down and costs a fortune to replace.

Remember, these cars were premium and that one would have cost a lot in 2008. Buying it now (even at a lower, more realistic price) is grand but the parts are still brand new.

im familiar with that concept, up until around 5 years ago most of my cars were second hand cars that were expensive new.

now they are just new cars that are expensive new and depreciate like the clappers :rolleyes: at least they are under warranty i suppose.

MetzgerMeister

You had an M3 at one stage didn't you? It's only clicking with me now so you know what you're at when it comes to what I'm saying.

Cyrus

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You had an M3 at one stage didn't you? It's only clicking with me now so you know what you're at when it comes to what I'm saying.

couple of them both e46s, the good old days :cool::pac:

Marcusm

Cyrus wrote: »

Saw this and thought it looked pretty good for a 11 year old car,

tell me all the reasons i shouldnt entertain buying it :P

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-range-rover-hse-tdv8-low-mileage-1-owner/21989885

That’s the 3.6 TDV8 which was quickly replaced by a 4.4TDV8 and the 3.6s tend to get rated poorly on enthusiasts forums. I have a 2005 4.2 supercharged (ie petrol). I’ve had it 8 years and brought it to Ireland when I moved back here 3 years ago. It barely cost he anything other than routine maintenance in the U.K. Since getting back here, i’ve had a new alternator (approx 1k), gearbox rebuild (6-8k depending on how you count), front suspension airbags (approx 1k per side), rear control arm bushings (650). This is in top of approx 450 per time for servicing.

Some of these are age related or wear items. Basically, you can be lucky or you can keep money for maintenance. I like the 410bhp and the lovely V8 rumble.

Diesel wise, the ex BZmW 3.0 TD6 was well regarded as us the 4.4TDV8.

Old diesel

Well according to the add the NCT is out since March 2018 .

Now granted the seller is saying the car will have new NCT but one has to wonder why whoever had it between March 2018 and now didnt NCT it.

Edit - it's actually got an NCT up to March 2020 according to the NCTS site.

Idbatterim

is that price a joke? look, if the total cost of ownership is going to be that high, due to depreciation and the mental motor tax, just import something from the uk would be my opinion. Id love to know what that would sell for privately if you bought it and tried selling it the next day!!! just checked, its cc linked motor tax, so its E1809. So no different to an 07 etc. just checked the 2008 + diesels and they are all at the E2350 rate! LOL! LOL!

Cyrus

i didnt realise the price was so off

this makes a lot more sense

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907160126236?radius=1500&make=LAND%20ROVER&year-from=2007&model=RANGE%20ROVER&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=bt364lb&maximum-mileage=70000&page=1

73bc61lyohr0mu

My sister had one of those. Was a fine yolk apart from needing the gearbox, air suspension and turbo replaced.

KB22

I have an older range rover vogue se 300Tdi. I would like to see an invoice for the work you quoted, 1k for an alternator same cost for a corner air spring. I don't doubt you, the labour charge must be enormous, will you give more details? Regard's KB

ba_barabus

KB22 wrote: »

I have an older range rover vogue se 300Tdi. I would like to see an invoice for the work you quoted, 1k for an alternator same cost for a corner air spring. I don't doubt you, the labour charge must be enormous, will you give more details? Regard's KB

Afaik it's a body off frame job. Or at least it used to be unless someone has discovered a work around.

KB22

I know for the turbo, rear timing belt, rear glow plug it's a body off job. I can't see that would be needed for an alternator or air springs/bladders renewal. Also I have seen prices quoted half that amount for a gearbox recon. I would still like to see an invoice . Anyone know what SPIRIT hourly labour rate is?

Marcusm

KB22 wrote: »

I have an older range rover vogue se 300Tdi. I would like to see an invoice for the work you quoted, 1k for an alternator same cost for a corner air spring. I don't doubt you, the labour charge must be enormous, will you give more details? Regard's KB

Mine is an L322 so not the same as yours. Alternator change also required battery change and they are expensive. Suspension was for changes of airbags, compressors etc. The compressors burned themselves out trying to reibflate the rubber suspension airbags etc.

The rear control arm bushings are €65 each plus the fluid to soak them in plus the labour (including overnight soaking). South Dublin Indy, not a main dealer.

Marcusm

KB22 wrote: »

I know for the turbo, rear timing belt, rear glow plug it's a body off job. I can't see that would be needed for an alternator or air springs/bladders renewal. Also I have seen prices quoted half that amount for a gearbox recon. I would still like to see an invoice . Anyone know what SPIRIT hourly labour rate is?

Indeed, I can see the gear box recon online via the U.K. for much less as well. You send yours off and they send you a different refurb’d one. The Indy said he wouldn’t stand over it whereas he would stand over work he commissioned in Dublin.

Marcusm

Cyrus wrote: »

i didnt realise the price was so off

this makes a lot more sense

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201907160126236?radius=1500&make=LAND%20ROVER&year-from=2007&model=RANGE%20ROVER&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=bt364lb&maximum-mileage=70000&page=1

That’s a Jersey reg so would attract VAT as well as VRT. IoM is in a Customs/VAT Union with U.K. (and thus EU) but Jersey is not.

Cyrus

gotcha, was thinking the reg looked weird

ah im only thinking about it im very unlikely to buy one anyway but always liked them

KB22

KB22 wrote: »

I know for the turbo, rear timing belt, rear glow plug it's a body off job. I can't see that would be needed for an alternator or air springs/bladders renewal. Also I have seen prices quoted half that amount for a gearbox recon. I would still like to see an invoice . Anyone know what SPIRIT hourly labour rate is?

You have a 300tdi discovery wearing some nicer clothes. A range rover classic. It’s a rowing boat. The OP is taking about a transocean catamaran in contrast.

Apple is not orange.

Idbatterim

an evoque or X5 wouldnt be of interest? if you have that kind of budget, get something more recent than the 08, something that you might have a chance of selling on in a few years if the tax isnt mental, because youll be giving that particular car in the OP away in a few years!

Cyrus

Idbatterim wrote: »

an evoque or X5 wouldnt be of interest? if you have that kind of budget, get something more recent than the 08, something that you might have a chance of selling on in a few years if the tax isnt mental, because youll be giving that particular car in the OP away in a few years!

an evoque is a totally different thing tho isnt it,

maybe an x5 !

KB22

JayZeus wrote: »

You have a 300tdi discovery wearing some nicer clothes. A range rover classic. It’s a rowing boat. The OP is taking about a transocean catamaran in contrast.

Apple is not orange.

Get your fact's right it is a RANGE ROVER CLASSIC 300Tdi auto vogue SE 1994. Not a disco !

KB22

KB22 wrote: »

Get your fact's right it is a RANGE ROVER CLASSIC 300Tdi auto vogue SE 1994. Not a disco !

Get your own facts right.

Axles, brakes, springs, shocks, engine, radius, front end inner wings, firewall/bulkhead, gearbox, propshafts, floors and transmission tunnel, propshafts, tranfer box, complete chassis, radius and trailing arms, the majority of the loom, ecu’s, even the windscreen... 300 TDi discovery series.

Don’t act like a know it all when you don’t.

KB22

JayZeus wrote: »

Get your own facts right.

Axles, brakes, springs, shocks, engine, radius, front end inner wings, firewall/bulkhead, gearbox, propshafts, floors and transmission tunnel, propshafts, tranfer box, complete chassis, radius and training arms, the majority of the loom, ecu’s, even the windscreen... 300 TDi discovery series.

Don’t act like a know it all when you don’t.

Your full of bull the RRC was out years before the disco. I looked at your history on boards . You are a joke , answering threads all over the place as if YOU KNOW IT ALL. I will ignore any of your moronic posts in future.

KB22

KB22 wrote: »

Your full of bull the RRC was out years before the disco. I looked at your history on boards . You are a joke , answering threads all over the place as if YOU KNOW IT ALL. I will ignore any of your moronic posts in future.

Yeah. I KNOW it. First hand. Real world.

In basic form, you have an outdated/updated 1970 range rover with some upgrades which were developed for the Discovery series. The 300Tdi is a good landrover engine, but has no place in a premium marque Range Rover. Had an RRC with a 200TDi and then another with a 300TDi. Only an EFI V8 should have been sold as the diesels were slow and underpowered. Fine in a 90 or 110, not in a Range Rover. Not by a long shot.

And comparing your old tractor (I owned a couple myself) to a 322 is pointless. You have a donkey. The L322 is a draft horse.

chicorytip

The 3.6 TDV8 engine fitted post 2007 is reliable and durable and more than powerful enough to shift two and a half tons rapidly - 0-60 in 9 seconds. The larger diesel and petrol versions are superflous in an Irish context. Well, if you can afford to, go ahead.

JJJJNR

Wouldn't be a fan of RRs myself but I loike this one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/range-rover-vogue-3-6-tdv8-facelift-model/22613990