Are the Chinese REALLY a great bunch of lads?

Hammer89

That's what they say, us Irish, but in my experience a lot of them are very grumpy, even the young.

I'm sure there are some happy-go-lucky ones floating around, but I've no recollection of meeting one. The ones I've met treat life as an obligation, as if they have to live, with the demeanour of that Harry Enfield character Kevin. I don't know what 'That's so unfair' is in Chinese but I'm sure I've heard it without knowing as much.

Thing is, maybe they say the same about us, that we're always moaning, which we are kind of. No point holding back on the blanket statements now. We're both miserable, us and the Chinese. Neither of us are a great bunch of lads.

Canadians, now there's a great bunch of lads. I've spent time in Canada and America and the Canadians are just way sounder. It's not even a debate. They're sounder than us and the Chinese, but the interesting thing, the REALLY interesting thing, is that the Chinese aren't any cheerier over there. Despite being in a generally happy country, they're still a bunch of Kevins, whereas the Irish make an effort over there to assimilate to happiness.

Dunno, I think we may have to stop calling them a great bunch of lads.

Yurt2

There's approx 1.4bn of them. You're sample size might be a bit low to draw robust conclusions from your data points.

banie01

There is a long standing and fairly numerous Chinese community in Ireland.
They seem to be a productive and happy section of our society and I do love a good chow mein...

But?
Considering how long we have had a Chinese community and how numerous they are, I've yet to ever see a Chinese headstone!?

On a serious note tho, great bunch of lads and considering how good they are at building walls...
Very open and integrated.

branie2

New Englanders are a great bunch of lads

Leg End Reject

Given their track record on human rights, and the fact that any I've seen work in Chinese only businesses (restaurants and salons), I suspect they're working too hard to be cheery.

Mass generalisation, but based on my limited experience with them.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Yurt! wrote: »

There's approx 1.4bn of them. You're sample size might be a bit low to draw robust conclusions from your data points.

Depends on the priors.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

I heard they have "Just Eat" for organs

Strumms

I wouldnt be ‘friends’ with any Chinese per say but I’ve known a few through work and another avenue of life and I have been impressed with them. What I might not have expected through my ignorance is their sense of humor and how funny they are is off the scale....hard workers too and genuine.

SEPT 23 1989

Good lads to deal with no fcuking around

dxhound2005

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's what they say, us Irish, but in my experience a lot of them are very grumpy, even the young.

Dunno, I think we may have to stop calling them a great bunch of lads.

You do know where the phrase came from??

Leg End Reject

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You do know where the phrase came from??

I hear you're a racist now father.

banie01

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You do know where the phrase came from??

And let's not forget that they all have lovely bottoms too!

1.4bln of 'em, lovely bottoms all round

JohnnyFlash

I’d be over there a few times a year at trade shows and the like. Strange people. They are extremely intelligent, yet strangely insular. They are fascinated with western culture, yet also repulsed by some of it. They’d rip you off the very first chance they’d get, and consider that part and parcel of doing business.

auspicious

They are a really good bunch of lads.
The reason why some "act like Kevin" is because they've ended up in Ireland.

retalivity

Hammer89 wrote: »

Canadians, now there's a great bunch of lads. I've spent time in Canada and America and the Canadians are just way sounder. It's not even a debate. They're sounder than us and the Chinese, but the interesting thing, the REALLY interesting thing, is that the Chinese aren't any cheerier over there.

Canadians are as dull as dishwater, minus a million craic.

Hammer89

retalivity wrote: »

Canadians are as dull as dishwater, minus a million craic.

The Chinese Canadians yeah.

archer22

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I’d be over there a few times a year at trade shows and the like. Strange people. They are extremely intelligent, yet strangely insular. They are fascinated with western culture, yet also repulsed by some of it. They’d rip you off the very first chance they’d get, and consider that part and parcel of doing business.

I don't know, generally I find them to be quite honest.

As for "They'd rip you off the first chance they get"...I would be far more concerned and wary about that in Ireland than I would in China any day.

ArchXStanton

They are, I've dealt with loads of them in a business sense, friendly, humorous and shrewd business folk

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Once you build a mutual trust they are a fantastic bunch. I worked with many some years ago; good fun, generous and hospitable. Of course it's a different culture but that applies across many peoples.

Edgware

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's what they say, us Irish, but in my experience a lot of them are very grumpy, even the young.

I'm sure there are some happy-go-lucky ones floating around, but I've no recollection of meeting one. The ones I've met treat life as an obligation, as if they have to live, with the demeanour of that Harry Enfield character Kevin. I don't know what 'That's so unfair' is in Chinese but I'm sure I've heard it without knowing as much.

Thing is, maybe they say the same about us, that we're always moaning, which we are kind of. No point holding back on the blanket statements now. We're both miserable, us and the Chinese. Neither of us are a great bunch of lads.

Canadians, now there's a great bunch of lads. I've spent time in Canada and America and the Canadians are just way sounder. It's not even a debate. They're sounder than us and the Chinese, but the interesting thing, the REALLY interesting thing, is that the Chinese aren't any cheerier over there. Despite being in a generally happy country, they're still a bunch of Kevins, whereas the Irish make an effort over there to assimilate to happiness.

Dunno, I think we may have to stop calling them a great bunch of lads.

The Chinese are good for a happy ending though

SEPT 23 1989

Abdullah Lazy Magician wrote: »

Once you build a mutual trust they are a fantastic bunch. I worked with many some years ago; good fun, generous and hospital. Of course it's a different culture but that applies across many peoples.

Very family run operations

They have total respect for the elders

What they say goes

Edgware

retalivity wrote: »

Canadians are as dull as dishwater, minus a million craic.

When the Canadians have a house party or barbecue they will say its between 6 pm and 9 pm and they then expect you to leave at 9 p.m.

Paddy usually arrives around 8.45 and stays till 4.00 a.m.

artanevilla

I don't care if they are a great bunch of lads as long as I get to have a go at the Greeks. They invented gayness.

Dr. Bre

I love a Chinese but wouldn’t eat a whole one..

Spleerbun

My main experiences of them in college was finding them passed out asleep in various chairs around the library - seemed very stereotypical but boy can they sleep, gotta admire that.

When you consider the fact that many species of animals around the world are reportedly endangered and cruelly hunted as a direct consequence of their weird traditions, the incredible amount of smog and general pollution produced by all their factories and the like, the Communism stuff, the reported organ harvesting, as well as just the general strangeness of a lot of them (at least to us), maybe they aren't that great after all.

Oh and a pet peeve, walking around with umbrellas up when it's not raining!! thats a bit annoying I must say, although that could be various Asian countries not just China

Strumms

retalivity wrote: »

Canadians are as dull as dishwater, minus a million craic.

Perhaps the ones you may have encountered although a couple I know would have you change you mind :eek:

ArchXStanton

Spleerbun wrote: »

My main experiences of them in college was finding them passed out asleep in various chairs around the library - seemed very stereotypical but boy can they sleep, gotta admire that.

When you consider the fact that many species of animals around the world are reportedly endangered and cruelly hunted as a direct consequence of their weird traditions, the incredible amount of smog and general pollution produced by all their factories and the like, the Communism stuff, the reported organ harvesting, as well as just the general strangeness of a lot of them (at least to us), maybe they aren't that great after all.

Oh and a pet peeve, walking around with umbrellas up when it's not raining!! thats a bit annoying I must say, although that could be various Asian countries not just China

Like the Thai and Vietnamese, never ceased to amaze me how they could stretch out fast asleep on top of a scooter in the middle of the busiest, noisiest most chaotic cities in the world

Hammer89

Right so we're concluding they're not a great bunch of lads.

colm_mcm

auspicious wrote: »

They are a really good bunch of lads.
The reason why some "act like Kevin" is because they've ended up in Ireland.

Who’s Kevin? Seriously

Dick phelan

Not as open as other nationalities i'v met overall however once you get to know them and they open up more they can be very sound. Generally they are more abrupt than Western culture but i actually have found them very generous, go out to dinner with them and often they will insist paying. Also their better crack than you'd expect, they work hard but a lot of them can play hard too. I will say though i think the one child policy has messed them up a little socially. A lot of Chinese lads are god awful when it comes to talking to women comparable to other countries.

Pinch Flat

banie01 wrote: »

There is a long standing and fairly numerous Chinese community in Ireland.
They seem to be a productive and happy section of our society and I do love a good chow mein...

A lot of Chinese takeaways were actually established by Vietnamese refugees in the late 70s / early 80s. A Chinese takeaway sounded more palatable than a Vietnamese one apparently

topper75

colm_mcm wrote: »

Who’s Kevin? Seriously

A Harry Enfield sketch character from years back portraying an entitled and whining teen. Despite being a very stretched out joke in the first place, they made a movie.

China isn't in the EU so how do so many of them operate here? They've been here since the 70s. They keep a low profile and their nose clean so nobody complains but how do they enter in such numbers and work here? Is there some secret deal, don't ask, don't tell?

Paddy Cow

colm_mcm wrote: »

Who’s Kevin? Seriously

dxhound2005

topper75 wrote: »

China isn't in the EU so how do so many of them operate here? They've been here since the 70s. They keep a low profile and their nose clean so nobody complains but how do they enter in such numbers and work here? Is there some secret deal, don't ask, don't tell?

According to the 2016 Census they are in the group with between 1,000 and 10,000 nationals in Ireland. The Poles and the white British would outnumber them by 20 to 1, but are probably less noticeable to white Irish people.

hgfj

Dick phelan wrote: »

... I will say though i think the one child policy has messed them up a little socially. A lot of Chinese lads are god awful when it comes to talking to women comparable to other countries.

Good friend of mine is married to a Chinese woman whom he met while working in China. He too reckons that one-child policy has messed them up socially. The other thing is the amount of emphasis put on doing well, which means doing hours of study and homework after school. The only time a lot of them (the children) ever come into contact with each other is during school time. Which again is spent studying, apart from lunch time. He reckons a lot of them are socially unskilled/awkward because of that.

archer22

Pinch Flat wrote: »

A lot of Chinese takeaways were actually established by Vietnamese refugees in the late 70s / early 80s. A Chinese takeaway sounded more palatable than a Vietnamese one apparently

They were ethnic Chinese who fled persecution in Vietnam after China and Vietnam had a falling out and fought a small border war in the late 70s.

super_furry

Met a lovely Chinese woman on the Dart today. My 18 month waved and said hello to her and she was really friendly with him and taught him how to say ni hao, he's been running around shouting it all evening now.

That's all I've got.

pablo128

banie01 wrote: »

There is a long standing and fairly numerous Chinese community in Ireland.
They seem to be a productive and happy section of our society and I do love a good chow mein...

But?
Considering how long we have had a Chinese community and how numerous they are, I've yet to ever see a Chinese headstone!?

On a serious note tho, great bunch of lads and considering how good they are at building walls...
Very open and integrated.

There's a Chinese headstone over a grave in Bohernabreena cemetery in Tallaght. Instead of putting flowers on the grave, they leave fruit, oranges and the like. Don't ask me why.

A mate of mine is married to a Chinese girl and they have 3 children. She's pretty sound I have to say. Bizarrely though, even though her family have their own business in China, they haven't been over once, not even for the wedding.

4068ac1elhodqr

Great bunch of lads.

But soon (2024) to be overtaken by the Indian population, another (fairly) great bunch of lads.
They will likely peak at 1.6bn by 2060, putting an end to China's population lead of hundreds of years.
They will also overtake Japan for GDP in just a few years from now and the UK this year.

Great bunch, except when you interface them through a call-centre
e.g. looking for a TPS Report (even after sending a Memo beforehand), and it promised.

By 2060 China GDP will be double the USA, as such the USE(34) & USA50+Can will merge into the 'NAU-&B-&EU' 84 states out of neccessity.
This merger wil be spearheaded by a Brexitland, who will seek salvation in the way of an initial Atlantic-Union 2035 and the new 'Amero' SterlingDollar crypto.

partyguinness

Have dealt a good few Chinese, South Korean and Vietnamese clients over the years. Solid out no trouble and paid.

On the other hand, don't get me started on the Indian, Pakistani and Bengali....who now comprise 90% of my clients.