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How come there are no LGBT super heroes in the Avengers movies ?

  • 02-08-2019 2:55pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭


    All the super heroes in these movies are far left liberals. All the story lines are drenched in liberalism which focus on diversity, equality and saving the environment. Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense

    They can reimagine captain marvel as a woman to empower women

    Why can't they do the same for a gay character?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    All the super heroes in these movies are far left liberals who would have voted for hillary Clinton. All the story lines are drenched in liberalism which focus on diversity, equality and saving the environment. Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense
    Hillary Clinton isn't far left.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    All the super heroes in these movies are far left liberals who would have voted for hillary Clinton. All the story lines are drenched in liberalism which focus on diversity, equality and saving the environment. Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense
    Hillary Clinton isn't far left.

    Oh for forks sake. Anyone who disagrees with someone is far opposite, have you only discovered the internet?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Hillary Clinton isn't far left.

    Neither is Captain America.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nobody wrote one, OP. G’way and write one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Captain Marvel had huge lesbian overtones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    You kinda made a balls of this fairly quickly OP didn't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    How do you know that many of the characters aren't LGBT and that they're just getting on with their lives ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    1. Super heroes are not real
    2. Who cares who they decide to shag
    3. They are not real
    4. The super hero's sexuality is not generally the main theme
    5. They are not real.
    6. Their sexuality may not be the main aspect of their life.
    7. Stop thinking with your dick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Superman has his pants on the outside, definitely camp.
    Also "Superman"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭granturismo


    ..Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense

    Because the outfits aren't fabulous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Far left liberal is an oxymoron for one.

    Disney the giant corporation care about one thing and that's money and making more than everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    You think Iron Man/Tony Stark is a Democrat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Don't worry OP, the transexual disabled Muslim caped crusader is coming soon!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson) was quoted at being LGBTQ(+whatevertherestis) so there you go Sir Troll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    All the super heroes in these movies are far left liberals who would have voted for hillary Clinton. All the story lines are drenched in liberalism which focus on diversity, equality and saving the environment. Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense

    What grotesque country must you hail from to consider a profit hungry war monger like Hillary Clinton to be someone that the 'far left' would vote for?

    Saving the environment isn't 'liberalism' it's simple self preservation otherwise known as intelligence.

    Being gay isn't liberal it's a state of being.

    Can Irish people please just stop watching fox and cnn and dragging themselves into this ridiculous yankee nomenclature and simplistic dramatised division of political ideals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Brian? wrote: »
    Neither is Captain America.


    By today's standards old-school Captain America is practically a leftwing radical

    Egr7rSh.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Valkyrie (Thor: Ragnarok & Avengers: Endgame) is bisexual and the actress who plays her (Tessa Thompson) and Brie Larson (Captain Marvel) have been sharing fan art of their two characters together. It's already been teased that Marvel will reveal one of its heroes is gay: https://www.elitedaily.com/p/marvel-will-reveal-one-of-its-heroes-is-gay-in-phase-4-fans-already-have-their-guesses-17861396 .

    And then there is Eternals, which could see Hercules become Marvel Cinematic Universe‘s first openly gay character.

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    'Terminator: Social Justice Warrior' is coming out soon though :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    kneemos wrote: »
    Superman has his pants on the outside, definitely camp.
    Also "Superman"?

    Did you not hear? It's now SuperCisMan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Brian? wrote: »
    Neither is Captain America.

    Captain America the communist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    kneemos wrote: »
    Captain America the communist.
    Was he not always fighting the USSR/Russia in the comic books?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    DC comics say Wonder Woman is bisexual, although one of the writers says she is gay.


    And here's a whole list of openly gay superhero's

    https://www.looper.com/11132/coolest-gay-superheroes/



    Among the Avengers, Endgame is gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Captain America is low-key gay with his boyfriend Bucky Barnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Zillah wrote: »
    Captain America is low-key gay with his boyfriend Bucky Barnes.

    Let's not mention Batman then,or Roy Rogers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,058 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    You kinda made a balls of this fairly quickly OP didn't you?

    Just like Iron Man 2

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    B0jangles wrote: »
    By today's standards old-school Captain America is practically a leftwing radical

    Egr7rSh.jpg

    I can't remember which comic it was, but when framing his actual socio-political beliefs Steve Rogers would be a Republican. Small Government, low taxation, right to bear arms etc. As a person though, he's supposed to represent the 'ideal' version of America, free rights, freedom of religion, no racism/sexism etc

    The modern political landscape, especially in the US, can't understand that Democrat =/= Liberal and Republican =/= right wing.

    I'm still laughing at the OP's idea that Hilary Clinton is a liberal :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    kneemos wrote: »
    Let's not mention Batman then,or Roy Rogers.

    This is an actual panel from a recent Marvel comic (it's sfw, just suggestive):
    https://i.imgur.com/NZzSFje.jpg

    I genuinely thought it was a gay porn parody when I saw it first. Suuuuper gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭crybaby




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Undividual


    'Terminator: Social Justice Warrior' is coming out soon though :pac:

    They'll be back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm still laughing at the OP's idea that Hilary Clinton is a liberal :pac:

    :pac: like how can someone so balls deep in Saudi be 'liberal' :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    Thankfully no such superheroes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    TCM wrote: »
    Thankfully no such superheroes.
    What do you mean thankfully?
    God forbid there might be a non straight superhero...the world would surely collapse!


    BTW as someone posted there already has been one in the MCU...so tough
    https://www.out.com/film/2019/7/21/first-lgbtq-marvel-superhero-officially-confirmed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Undividual wrote: »
    They'll be back.

    I feel this is a highly undervalued comment :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    You think Iron Man/Tony Stark is a Democrat?

    Have you seen his character arc in the last few movies?

    He transformed from a war profiteer, materialistic, only interested in him self into a humanitarian and environmental activist


    Anti war /anti military complex. Pro gun control

    Free green energy for everyone

    And,He sacrifice s himself to save humanity and the Liberal order. That's pretty liberal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I can't remember which comic it was, but when framing his actual socio-political beliefs Steve Rogers would be a Republican. Small Government, low taxation, right to bear arms etc. As a person though, he's supposed to represent the 'ideal' version of America, free rights, freedom of religion, no racism/sexism etc

    The modern political landscape, especially in the US, can't understand that Democrat =/= Liberal and Republican =/= right wing.

    I'm still laughing at the OP's idea that Hilary Clinton is a liberal :pac:

    Never said that

    If the makers of Avengers had to put an ending credits in "endgame", showing all the superheroes going to the polling booth, all of them would of voted for hillary Clinton. Captain America would have abstained


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    TCM wrote: »
    Thankfully no such superheroes.

    It must be really exhausting to go through life with so much impotent resentment all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Mainly, because I'd imagine all these Super Heroes were created in a time where LGBTQ+ (or whatever the abbreviation is) wasn't really a thing.

    Sure, there were gay people etc, but it wasn't wrote about, or displayed on tv etc. Like Superman was created in 1938. Batman in 1939.

    If the movie makers want to stick to the creators original vision for these characters, their hands are somewhat tied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Wonder Woman is a gay icon Shirley?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    kneemos wrote: »
    Wonder Woman is a gay icon Shirley?
    She is but stop calling me Shirley


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Everybody knows that Batman and Robin were more than just superhero buddies...

    https://www.queerty.com/you-were-right-batman-and-robin-have-been-super-gay-since-forever-20160406


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,760 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    All the super heroes in these movies are far left liberals. All the story lines are drenched in liberalism which focus on diversity, equality and saving the environment. Why no LGBT then? It doesn't make sense

    How do you know there aren't?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    How do you know there aren't?

    Because there is no reference to it anywhere. In fact, there is a story of there being the first gay character in Avengers, in the last movie. He wasn't a super hero though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Mainly, because I'd imagine all these Super Heroes were created in a time where LGBTQ+ (or whatever the abbreviation is) wasn't really a thing.

    Sure, there were gay people etc, but it wasn't wrote about, or displayed on tv etc. Like Superman was created in 1938. Batman in 1939.

    If the movie makers want to stick to the creators original vision for these characters, their hands are somewhat tied.

    But they can empower women by changing captain marvel from a muscle bound man into a woman to empower women

    Why can't they do that with a gay character?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Thor turned into a chick makes him trans


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    But they can empower women by changing captain marvel from a muscle bound man into a woman to empower women

    Why can't they do that with a gay character?
    Probably marketing and investment returns. It's Hollywood after all. Half the population are women, so a much bigger market than gay folks and gay women are more likely to dig it too.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Most super hero movies are aimed at a family audience ,if a film gets a
    18 rating it will cut its potential audience a lot,
    hollywood likes money.
    Once you have sex in a movie it potential audience is reduced .
    A movie can have alot of violence and some bad language
    and still be rated t for teen .
    Also hollywood is making films for asia and china .
    So they tend to have sex in the background if its mentioned at all .
    IF you want to see films with complex characters and romance
    with lgbt characters there lots of indie films on movie channels
    and tv and netflix , streaming services .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I bet Marcellus Wallace wishes there was no gay superheroes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Mainly, because I'd imagine all these Super Heroes were created in a time where LGBTQ+ (or whatever the abbreviation is) wasn't really a thing.

    Sure, there were gay people etc, but it wasn't wrote about, or displayed on tv etc. Like Superman was created in 1938. Batman in 1939.

    If the movie makers want to stick to the creators original vision for these characters, their hands are somewhat tied.

    Erm, you do realise literally every comic book character has been rebooted in some way over the last 80 years? Would be pretty dull to accept one version of any hero to be the be all and end all. We'd never have gotten the Dark Knight or event Burton era of Batman if we were to stick to that sort of vision. Plus X-Men literally came about as part of the civil rights movement and developed with each social movement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    Have this problem sorted OP.

    I've just finished writing a risqué screenplay in which Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and Wonderwoman (Gal Gadot) succumb to the long-standing sexual tension between them and embark on a steamy relationship that'd make Christian Grey look like a bloody altar boy. Absolutely nothing is left to the imagination.

    Hoping to get it funded soon.

    All in the interests of fair representation obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭bonzos


    Can "Ireland" stop pushing the LGBT+- agenda down our throats via Rte and other media, 99% respect and acknowledge the gay community and its not an issue. Leo needs to relax a bit, it becoming embarrassing.


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