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INFO to NOISE ratio on boards

  • 01-08-2019 3:56pm
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    Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭


    How many boardsies post constructive useful info as opiised to trolls / spammers / whatever-bots / strawman argument - whataboutery merchant.

    Unfortunately I see a rise in the level of the latter.

    Explain why you are one of the constructive posters, alternately

    GTFO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Explain why you are one of the constructive posters, alternately

    GTFO.
    I like posting off topic things in other people's threads.


    Why is abortion not illegal anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    But what about the homeless?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    dan1895 wrote: »
    But what about the homeless?
    Dan, is it your birthday today? If so, have a good one! :cool: :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,236 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Any word on minorities yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Explain why you are one of the constructive posters,

    As I try to at least comment on the original question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,207 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The obvious trolls/spammers are nuked fairly fast.

    Sometimes it may just take a while to get a link to prove it tough.

    Some people may be a tad of a troll at times but they don't really mean.

    To some people any comment they don't like is a troll.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    After Hours, Soccer, Current Affairs, Feedback: noise totally drowns out the useful stuff.

    Practically every other forum then tends to be on the opposite end of the scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wait, I'm confused about the movie. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thats so that guns are used later. The corrupt internal affairs fella is shot, the building lights and will Smith is cleared.

    GUNS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    How many boardsies post constructive useful info as opiised to trolls / spammers / whatever-bots / strawman argument - whataboutery merchant.

    Unfortunately I see a rise in the level of the latter.

    Explain why you are one of the constructive posters, alternately

    GTFO.
    If you've run out of arguments it's easier for some to play the man instead of the ball. Accusing people of using multiple profiles or of plotting with other users to invade discussions. There's been a lot of that lately and it's very off-putting. I thought this was a discussion forum for swapping ideas. Not Bebo.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Let me explain, I thought the cop was a prostitute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    It's the gubberment robbin us blind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    How many boardsies post constructive useful info as opiised to trolls / spammers / whatever-bots / strawman argument - whataboutery merchant.

    Unfortunately I see a rise in the level of the latter.

    Explain why you are one of the constructive posters, alternately

    GTFO.

    Reading this thread has me resurrect the theory that 1) children and 2) Everything roundabout as, historically, a means of evading British rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    We SHOULD all post LOUD noises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    That would be an ecumenical matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It certainly depends on the forum and not all are like After Hours or Current Affairs.

    Those like Nature, Gardening, Angling, Consumer Issues, Banking etc are 99% info or constructive advice/comment. The noise is just not tolerated there. But After Hours is part of Social & Fun, so you have to expect irreverent and disruptive episodes and it's often not the place to post if you're genuinely looking for information - look at some of the nonsense threads around social interaction or personal issues; why post them here if you want them discussed seriously when there are other forums on Boards for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    look at some of the nonsense threads around social interaction or personal issue; why post them here if you want them discussed seriously when there are other forums on Boards for that?

    I remember the fella looking to know what to bring as a gift for a dinner with his Irish friends.

    He was well looked after here.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Toddy you restore my faith in AH culture and tradition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Toddy you restore my faith in AH culture and tradition.

    Thank you xieann, I'm eyeing up a rogue moderator position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    I really, really think you should have to have at least 10 posts before you can start threads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    As I try to at least comment on the original question.

    So do I but only when the topic is about Twink, which this one is so to answer the original question...my favourite would be ham cheese and pickles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There's not that many out and out trolls here and they tend to be stopped fairly quickly, but they do make a lot of noise when they are around. They used to annoy me, but now I just pity them - is there any more pathetic way to spend your time than trolling on an anonymous internet forum?

    AH is a big tent kinda forum, so you get all sorts of different posters in here.

    Some posters in here can reason and debate and string together coherent arguments - maybe a quarter or third of the users, depending on the conversation.

    Some other posters can reason and debate up to a point and then, past that point, don't want to/are unable to debate anymore and start engaging in whataboutery or multi-quoting all the way into pedantic incoherence - the only thing that seemingly matters is giving no ground or browbeating your "opponent" into silence. Tend to be last-word freaks.

    Some posters can't think at all or just don't want to. It amazes me that they've found their way to this relatively obscure corner of the internet, where, in theory anyway, discussion and being able to articulate your opinion is the defining characteristic - and have nothing but hot-air to contribute. Things have improved a little since the political hot potato threads were safely ghettoised in their own little patch, but, if you ever do click into any of those threads, the ratio of raw lamebrained hot-take guff to the informative or at least partially thought through is still depressingly out of whack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    So do I but only when the topic is about Twink, which this one is so to answer the original question...my favourite would be ham cheese and pickles.

    If only we could all diddle the tax man as effectively.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Would the following be consider dross:

    - Do you have ANY STICKERS on your own personal laptop

    - After you “fell in with the wrong crowd” would you say this fact to them

    And my personal favourite:

    - How valid is this male pilot in an Irish context

    Time for you to GTFO OP...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Arghus wrote: »
    Some posters can't think at all or just don't want to. It amazes me that they've found their way to this relatively obscure corner of the internet, where, in theory anyway, discussion and being able to articulate your opinion is the defining characteristic - and have nothing but hot-air to contribute. Things have improved a little since the political hot potato threads were safely ghettoised in their own little patch, but, if you ever do click into any of those threads, the ratio of raw lamebrained hot-take guff to the informative or at least partially thought through is still depressingly out of whack.

    I'm dominating this thread a bit but at this level you get the madness of the human psyche on display a little bit. It gives an indication of where the culture is at.

    I find that the biggest thing driving a lot of the die hard threads is a kindof narcisstic wounding, where to admit to imperfections or wrongness is too shameful to allow so its all out war to the bitter end.

    Where the narcisstic wounding is coming from in the culture might be a question to ask. Is it fear of being dominated by another like a person was naturally dominated by adults as children?

    Everyone hates psychobabble but...


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I'm dominating this thread a bit but at this level you get the madness of the human psyche on display a little bit. It gives an indication of where the culture is at.

    I find that the biggest thing driving a lot of the die hard threads is a kindof narcisstic wounding, where to admit to imperfections or wrongness is too shameful to allow so its all out war to the bitter end.

    Where the narcisstic wounding is coming from in the culture might be a question to ask. Is it fear of being dominated by another like a person was naturally dominated by adults as children?

    Everyone hates psychobabble but...

    Great Post 10/10.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Thank you xieann, I'm eyeing up a rogue moderator position.
    I see

    Well, in the star Wars Scheme of things, if Black Swan and Mzungu were Jedi, then you would surely make a great Sith counterpart I surmise.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Depends on the Forum.

    After hours is a load of nonsense posts (to be expected). DIY forum is full of useful and helpful advice (as, also, is to be expected).


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    there are a lot of modes of communication between info and noise, its a discussion board not a manual


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Depends on the Forum.

    After hours is a load of nonsense posts (to be expected). DIY forum is full of useful and helpful advice (as, also, is to be expected).

    You need to undo even just one shirt button and join the party fella.

    And yes, I just assumed your gender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I'm dominating this thread a bit but at this level you get the madness of the human psyche on display a little bit. It gives an indication of where the culture is at.

    I find that the biggest thing driving a lot of the die hard threads is a kindof narcisstic wounding, where to admit to imperfections or wrongness is too shameful to allow so its all out war to the bitter end.

    Where the narcisstic wounding is coming from in the culture might be a question to ask. Is it fear of being dominated by another like a person was naturally dominated by adults as children?

    Everyone hates psychobabble but...

    Maybe. I don't really get the lengths people go to on here sometimes to just browbeat who ever they happen to be "discussing" an issue with.

    I read through threads here sometimes and I can see where posters - who are painstakingly going through each others previous points in order to refute sentence by sentence - actually can be in agreement with each other about some of the things they're arguing about, but that gets lost in the noise. The object of the game seems to be to just hammer the other poster and focus solely on the points of difference.

    Real-life conversations don't operate like that - at least most of them don't - life would be very exhausting. There's a lot more space for nuance when talking face to face. People are inclined to be more agreeable when talking to someone in the flesh and there's other cues to take on board - tone of voice, demeanor etc, etc - so it isn't just always a knuckle dragging fight to the death.

    Because all of that gets flattened or removed altogether on the net, people often double down on their decisiveness and conversations are often conducted like brinkmanship: nothing can ever be conceded and no ground is ever given up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The answer is pie.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The answer is pie.

    What connects "cottage", "apple", "rhubarb" and "fisherman's"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Beasty wrote: »
    What connects "cottage", "apple", "rhubarb" and "fisherman's"?

    Crumble?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Beasty wrote: »
    The answer is pie.

    What connects "cottage", "apple", "rhubarb" and "fisherman's"?

    3.14 of those.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Crumble?

    OK, I'll give another clue

    "Miss American"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Beasty wrote: »
    OK, I'll give another clue

    "Miss American"

    Has to be wharf.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Has to be wharf.
    Bye, bye....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The most people who sign up to boards do so with no agenda. They only want to use boards for the purpose it was designed, to share information, to seek information and opinions, to discuss, contribute, have a bit of craic, to debate etc. they can do so without always agreeing with everyone or everything that gets posted and still maintain a friendly and courteous tone while displaying a passion for their beliefs and how it is expressed without the toys coming out of the pram.

    There will be a minority who do have an agenda however and it happens in any walk of life, work, golf club, sports team whatever.... where if someone isn’t of the same view or beliefs toys come out of the pram, they get ‘offended’ when someone says something they disagree with or a different opinion. Pretty sad and immature but it’s the nature of the beast.


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