Sickie days

CelticSeaShip

Have you ever pulled a sickie day? I'm thinking about pulling a sick day for tomorrow. I'm just so fed up of my job. By the time today ends I will have clocked up 43 hours work since Monday and my week still is 3 over. The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

Ecce No Homo

I take a sick day about once a month. Usually catch up on shows.

Hector Savage

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a sickie day? I'm thinking about pulling a sick day for tomorrow. I'm just so fed up of my job. By the time today ends I will have clocked up 43 hours work since Monday and my week still is 3 over. The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

Take the sick day, you deserve it - in fact you are entitled to it.
Companies take the piss nowadays.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

Yup. You are being overworked by these pricks. You owe them nothing. Take the day, and maybe consider taking two. Rest up and recuperate.

branie2

Never done it.

Stephen Gawking

Phuck that! That's pure exploitation pure & simple. Take a day or 2, polish up the CV & see if you can get anything better because working more than 48 hours in one week is illegal unless you work in certain occupations. Given you wont get a penny over €400 I'd say you don't fall into that catagory. Get out while you have your health & your sanity.

Pyr0

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

Then f*ck 'em in that case, you should absolutely take the day.

Mrcaramelchoc

No don't .write a stiff letter to your local politician.

No, I respect my employer and don't take the job for granted.

Hoboo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, I respect my employer and don't take the job for granted.

Does Bertie whip you?

Beta Ray Bill

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a sickie day? I'm thinking about pulling a sick day for tomorrow. I'm just so fed up of my job. By the time today ends I will have clocked up 43 hours work since Monday and my week still is 3 over. The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

Read this carefully and remember it:

If you work for free, you'll be working forever

You do not work for free, maybe only for immediate family as a once off.
Someone is making money off your time at a cost of nothing to them.

When the clock hits 5pm. You leave.
If they want you to stay, they have to pay.
If they give you crap about "well it's your job, you'll lose it if you don't" tell them to f*ck off, there's load of job out there.

I take it this is an apprenticeship?
Back in the day this was kind of acceptable as if you went out to be a bricky, chippy, spark etc you could make loads of money.
Builder make f*ck all now though, so it's not worth it.

You never work for free, Ever!

LirW

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a sickie day? I'm thinking about pulling a sick day for tomorrow. I'm just so fed up of my job. By the time today ends I will have clocked up 43 hours work since Monday and my week still is 3 over. The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

I just left a job for that very reason. They were taking the p1ss, contracted me for an area close to home (which was why I applied in the first place, I have family commitments), told them even in the interview I can't commit to a regular commute to Dublin.
Was scheduled for Dublin a few times every week, never got my promised mileage money for working out of area, and in the end between childcare and fuel I had 0 left and even had to top up with my husband's pay to keep me working.
So yeah, not worth it, you'll find something else, much better. Take that sick day, don't feel bad, it's the end of the road.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

Have you ever pulled a sickie day? I'm thinking about pulling a sick day for tomorrow. I'm just so fed up of my job. By the time today ends I will have clocked up 43 hours work since Monday and my week still is 3 over. The real kicker is that I won't earn a cent over 400 euro. No over time pay.

Before I take sick days, I'll try ask for a raise or be compensated for the overtime. I think it's crazy that you don't get paid for overtime. You must value your time. How many hours over time will work after tomorrow? 8? That's a whole day! Your employer is getting a whole free day's work off you. That's exploitative.

If your boss can't facilitate some compensation or good will for your efforts, then I wont blame you for taking a sick day.

“Pay peanuts and you get monkeys”

So if you’re a monkey, all you get is peanuts.

There’s a reason why people who take regular sick days when they’re not actually sick typically have low paid jobs.

Don’t be a monkey.

Utter Consternation

Take a fcuking duvet day and relax OP. The place won't have fcuking fallen apart without you.

wakka12

Take that sick day and never go back
They sound exploitative

JohnnyFlash

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Take a fcuking duvet day and relax OP. The place won't have fcuking fallen apart without you.

Excellent advice utter. Should have a good old-fashioned ‘hand shandy’, then go back to snoozeysnoozyland for a few hours. Get up in the afternoon and rock down to the local for a few pots and a good carvery dinner.

Utter Consternation

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Excellent advice utter. Should have a good old-fashioned ‘hand shandy’, then go back to snoozeysnoozyland for a few hours. Get up in the afternoon and rock down to the local for a few pots and a good carvery dinner.

A solid plan JF. No harm in a bit of 'personal time' to unwind.

You'll be long enough fcuking dead.

CelticSeaShip

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

Before I take sick days, I'll try ask for a raise or be compensated for the overtime. I think it's crazy that you don't get paid for overtime. You must value your time. How many hours over time will work after tomorrow? 8? That's a whole day! Your employer is getting a whole free day's work off you. That's exploitative.

If your boss can't facilitate some compensation or good will for your efforts, then I wont blame you for taking a sick day.

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

Utter Consternation

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

Fcuk it OP, you don't need a day off. Take a dive for the week. Go to the doctor and say you have a bad repetitive strain injury or some such ailment.

JohnnyFlash

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Fcuk it OP, you don't need a day off. Take a dive for the week. Go to the doctor and say you have a bad repetitive strain injury or some such ailment.

‘A bad dose of the nerves’ should be good for 5 days off.

Necro

CelticSeaShip wrote:

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

That's nuts. Tbh I'd just work my rostered hours and leave at 6pm on the button.

When lazy boss asks why theres no one there ask them where the extra money is

Hector Savage

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Excellent advice utter. Should have a good old-fashioned ‘hand shandy’, then go back to snoozeysnoozyland for a few hours. Get up in the afternoon and rock down to the local for a few pots and a good carvery dinner.

Sounds like literally the perfect day.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

Ah man. I feel for you. That's unacceptable. It really is. And I take it you are only being paid up to 40 hours.

Do yourself a big favour and tell your boss you can't accept it. Either he comes in at 18:00 or you are walking. Document all the extra hours you work. Make sure you have all the evidence you require should something more come of it.

You are the one being taken advantage of here. You lose out. I know you might want to please but a good boss respects a person that can first respect themselves. How can you respect yourself if you let this guy walk all over you. Taking the sickie is then a passive aggressive move.

I have been there. I understand. It's easier said than done. You'll feel much better for bring it up and trying to resolve it.

Best of luck with it.

con___manx1

I took two sick days in a row a few weeks ago as I didn't have enough holidays. I went to rome. I get paid sick days so I actually got paid to go there.

pgj2015

i was working full time since i was 18, worked hard for a few years after school on building sites, i learned early on that you need to stand up for yourself, if you want something ask for it. my employer sometimes asked us to work saturdays then tried not paying us for them, i told him every time that i was owed for saturday and got paid, the other guy the same age as me never said anything, he ended up working 4 or 5 saturdays for free the ejit, in the end he just told the employer he was busy saturdays. too quiet to just say look i worked saturday now pay me for it.

i asked the same employer for an increase every year i was on the sites and got them. the others were too quiet to ask for them.

Yer Da sells Avon

I like my job, so I've yet to feel any need to take a sick day. To be honest, if I'm genuinely sick, I prefer to be sick in work than sitting at home feeling like crap. If I felt a bit under the weather though: tired, overworked, fed up, etc, but not 'sick sick', and fancied some recuperation, I'd happily take a day or two. Far better than being a martyr and burning yourself out.

kikilarue2

A friend of mine who works in HR once told me that when companies are calculating your package, they budget for the fact that the average employee takes 9 sick days per year.

I work for myself now, and thankfully I'm generally very healthy. I used to take a day off about once a quarter. They'd think nothing of asking me to work overtime (unpaid as I'd have been on a salary) if they needed it.

Potential-Monke

I would 100% be pulling a sickie if I was you. Maybe I'm lucky, but every job I've had paid me for time worked, including overtime. it's crazy to expect people to work for free, unless they're earning €80k+ a year. Considering you're only going to get €400 anyway, that decision would automatically be made for me. I'd also be letting the boss know you're being paid for 39 hours, and if you're not going to get overtime you'll just leave.

This is a major problem I see a lot of people facing, but it's also caused by other people. Some people will do anything to get 1 over on their colleagues, to make themselves look better by doing everything the boss says, while other people (rightfully) complain. It's the same with the rental market. The only way to bring down rent prices is to stop renting, but for everyone who decides they're not going to pay crazy high rent, there are 10 others who will because it benefits them somehow. It's a vicious cycle in both employment and accommodation, and others.

Bottom line: People are dicks and some dicks are bigger.

EmmetSpiceland

While I don’t condone the taking of “sick” days, unless you’re actually sick, I have done it and you, OP, sound like you need it.

Here’s my advice on the subject:

1. Only take days off from Tuesday to Thursday, unless you can get it “certified”.

2. Always take two days, this decreases suspicion and causes those who doubted your “illness” to feel a little bad for that.

3. The reason for taking two days is that the period of illness is classed as one “instance” of sickness. This matters if you have a number of instances within a certain time period as HR will get on your case, so in for a penny etc.

4. Use the days wisely, by all means fritter away the first one in from of the tv and “frittering away” at yourself but on Day 2 you should really get out of the house, never into the city centre or large shopping centres. You never know who’ll you could bump into but there are a lot of sights to be seen out there.

5.a It’s never a “waste” of money to go see your GP with the sole purpose of getting a sick note. It’s very rare that a doctor won’t provide this but, on the off chance, they do then I recommend requesting getting them to “check” your testicles.

5.b If you’re over 40 then complain of late night trips to the bathroom but only urinating small amounts, say you’re “worried” about your prostate. They should write the note there and then but, if not, be sure to back into their finger during the “exam”. At least you’ll have gotten you’re money’s worth and they should think twice before refusing a note in future.

Good luck, OP.

Utter Consternation

There's no point going off sick if you're actually sick. You're wasting everyones time then.

Also, a poster here suggested that you go off sick with a dose of 'the nerves.' I'd advise against this as employers will not accept a medical cert with the diagnosis 'suffering from the nerves' on it.

Fiery mutant

Any chance of letting us know where this place is, so others will know to steer clear.

Value your time OP, take a break.

Beta Ray Bill

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

Sorry OP but this is taking the absolute p*ss
Tell them to either be on time or pay the O/T.
Get your CV done up on your sickie day and get a new job.

Sounds like an absolute pain in the hole.
Life is supposed to be enjoyed.
Waiting on some tosser (who's you boss) to relieve you is a load of Ballix!

Man Vs ManUre

I have been with the same company for past 15 years now, and I have logged taken a sick day. Wow.

Man Vs ManUre

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I have been with the same company for past 15 years now, and I have logged taken a sick day. Wow.

Meant to type I have never logged a sick day. Double wow!!

everlast75

After hours - **** them people who don't work, lazy *******

Also After Hours - **** employers. Chuck sickies - they exploit workers anyway!

Gerianam

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

Why do you wait for your boss to come in ? If he is not there at 6pm, out the door you go, cheery bye. He will be there on time the next day. Do not be a door mat. He is laughing at you!

Dial Hard

JohnnyFlash wrote:

Get up in the afternoon and rock down to the local for a few pots and a good carvery dinner.

Clearly trolling, there's no such thing.

cafard

Imho, it's not a sick leave you need OP, it's a union rep.

the_pen_turner

CelticSeaShip wrote: »

I'm supposed to be working from 8.30 til 6 every day but it's never 6. I have to wait for my employer to come in and relieve me and its never 6. Its more like 7 or 8 or 9. Tomorrow will be much and the same - morning time til evening so it will be like a 55 hour week if I do tomorrow.

tell your boss you have comitments in the evenings from now on and have to be out the door by 6.
when 6 comes close up the premisis. send them a quick text to say dont worry i have locked up. they will complain but hopefully learn from it



and start looking for another job

bee06

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Meant to type I have never logged a sick day. Double wow!!

Do you never get sick or are you one of those people who coming in sick and infects the rest of us?

Baron Kurtz

Think someone said in here before: If you act like a donkey, they'll just load you up.

Man Vs ManUre

bee06 wrote: »

Do you never get sick or are you one of those people who coming in sick and infects the rest of us?

During the first few years in company I was still young and would go out during the week, so I did take a few sick days. Tho on about year 5 or so the company revealed that it didn’t pay sick leave so I ended up that year having only 12 or so annual leave as had to work back those sick days. Hence I still claim I’ve never taken sick day.
Since about year 8 or so company is proving sick days, but I just haven’t taken any. And no I wouldn’t come to office if I was sick, have just been lucky not to pick up flus and colds or something more serious. It really does my head in when others in office are coughing, sneezing and snorting.
In recent times I’ve been able to work from home a bit, not every day but maybe 1 or 2 days a week. Some people will claim this is advancement in our new modern world, but in reality most people working from home are just taking the piss, we may as well be sick for all the work that gets done. And this is the case more and more now in most Technology companies.

Westernyelp

Yer Da sells Avon wrote:

I like my job, so I've yet to feel any need to take a sick day. To be honest, if I'm genuinely sick, I prefer to be sick in work than sitting at home feeling like crap. If I felt a bit under the weather though: tired, overworked, fed up, etc, but not 'sick sick', and fancied some recuperation, I'd happily take a day or two. Far better than being a martyr and burning yourself out.

I'm sure your colleagues appreciate you bringing the plague upon them. Stay at home if you are really sick.
If you are not. Go to work. If it's a crappy job leave it.

gifted

By working hours for nothing you are effectively giving your boss money.......why do that?

kikilarue2

Utter Consternation wrote: »

There's no point going off sick if you're actually sick. You're wasting everyones time then.

Also, a poster here suggested that you go off sick with a dose of 'the nerves.' I'd advise against this as employers will not accept a medical cert with the diagnosis 'suffering from the nerves' on it.

This is very outdated advice.

Most doctors these days will not write what someone was suffering from on a sick cert. They'll usually write "medical reasons" and not get any more specific than that.

TBH I think if you went to any doctor that knows you and stated your case exactly as you have here, they'd easily give you a few days off for stress.

rgmmg

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

5.b If you’re over 40 then complain of late night trips to the bathroom but only urinating small amounts, say you’re “worried” about your prostate. They should write the note there and then but, if not, be sure to back into their finger during the “exam”. At least you’ll have gotten you’re money’s worth and they should think twice before refusing a note in future.

Ask the doc if he bowls often at the point of insertion to lighten the mood

EmmetSpiceland

rgmmg wrote: »

Ask the doc if he bowls often at the point of insertion to lighten the mood

If they aren’t providing you with a sick note then the mood should only be “heavied”.

When you’re paying €60, or whatever it is, you should get the note. Without the note you need to get “value” for money and they shouldn’t get to laugh along.

I would certainly allow it during a “routine” examination.

rgmmg

My missus pal was head of PR for a charity and she always took the maximum number of sick days allowed per year. Classy.

I have only taken a handful of "sickies" over the years. Well worth it though. The last time I took one I kept laughing to myself thinking "Where's the catch?" as I rolled over and went back to sleep. Really feels like you're screwing the man Must be due one soon.

con___manx1

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Meant to type I have never logged a sick day. Double wow!!

my supervisor went 14 years without a sick day.

a while back he was coming into work very sick . one day he tried to call sick and they had no cover so he went to work. the next day he ended up in hospital and was out for a few months.
when he eventually came back to work they ****ed him over giving him more work than he had before.

Utter Consternation

con___manx1 wrote: »

my supervisor went 14 years without a sick day.

a while back he was coming into work very sick . one day he tried to call sick and they had no cover so he went to work. the next day he ended up in hospital and was out for a few months.
when he eventually came back to work they ****ed him over giving him more work than he had before.

It's the same thanks you'll get. You're only a number... etc etc