Mother****er

mad muffin

:mad:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-hears-child-porn-video-was-discovered-on-phone-of-father-of-two-after-it-was-left-in-for-repair-939451.html


Something has to be done about Irish law and the judiciary.

Any form of child abuse should carry a mandatory sentence. None of this suspended sentence bullshît.

Cee-Jay-Cee

mad muffin wrote: »

:mad:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-hears-child-porn-video-was-discovered-on-phone-of-father-of-two-after-it-was-left-in-for-repair-939451.html


Something has to be done about Irish law and the judiciary.

Any form of child abuse should carry a mandatory sentence. None of this suspended sentence bullshît.

Precedent has been set. If she had sentenced him to prison he would have appealed it (paid for by legal aid most likely) and would have won his appeal...because of precedent.

Bobblehats

That’s gonna go down well in the community. Hopefully nobody goes full neeson

punisher5112

1916 fighters for our freedom would and will be rolling in their graves ...

Fook the British legal system which we abide by....

I'm sick to death of how well protected the scum are....

Bobblehats

The address is the road at entrance to the children’s hospital.

colm_mcm

punisher5112 wrote: »

1916 fighters for our freedom would and will be rolling in their graves ...

Fook the British legal system which we abide by....

I'm sick to death of how well protected the scum are....

What does this have to do with 1916 fighters?

Isn’t the issue that prison is too expensive to put people into?

punisher5112

colm_mcm wrote: »

What does this have to do with 1916 fighters?

Isn’t the issue that prison is too expensive to put people into?

What did they fight for freedom for to then let criminals walk all over us....

The legal system is a joke, the judges, the barrister, the solicitors etc.... All in it for the money....

We need another prison built and fast.....

Am I not allowed to my opinion??

mad muffin

I mean. I don’t get it. Only a sick fûck get a text asking if you want to see child porn, and says yes. Then they find another video. Then another.

But the judge is like. He’s a good man. A hard working man. The child porn wasn’t too bad. I’ve seen worse.

I meant what the actual fück?!

And his family says. Oh he’s a good hard working man. And his community sends letters vouching to his good character.

FÜCK! They are all sick fûcks :mad:

punisher5112

A guy I know,,,, yes it's true unfortunately had a good friend whom had all sorts on phone etc and nobody knew.... Scary stuff and of course no longer friends for the other lads sake as he was going to kill him...

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

A guy I know,,,, yes it's true unfortunately had a good friend whom had all sorts on phone etc and nobody knew.... Scary stuff and of course no longer friends for the other lads sake as he was going to kill him...

And the Gardai were notified ?

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

And the Gardai were notified ?

Sorry I left out he was caught... Do t want to identify....

washman3

Child porn on his 2 phones and laptop and this 'judge' sees fit to hand him a suspended sentence, ie lets him off scot free.
What a banana republic we live in.
Worse still, his family 'supports' him.
He shoud be fcuked into jail for 5 years minimun, and the judge with him.:mad:

Has the sick cnut that sent him those images/videos been tracked down and prosecuted.??

sydthebeat

Methinks judge Nolan has been anaesthetised to this stuff.... Which is definitely what we don't want in the judiciary, and should be grounds to oust him.

InTheShadows

Not surprised tbh. We don't have a great history of child protection in this country.

Sharp MZ700

sydthebeat wrote: »

Methinks judge Nolan has been anaesthetised to this stuff.... Which is definitely what we don't want in the judiciary, and should be grounds to oust him.

How can you oust a judge? Mexican style?

noubliezjamais

I must wonder how stupid are some of these criminals?

This is similar to many notable cases where a husband drugs his wife with sedatives, she becomes totally unconscious and gets raped but the only reason she found out was that the guy recorded the acts on his camera.


I suppose pride/boldness is inevitable of criminals. Once they get away with it two times, they put their guard down. Same with drug mules.

Hal3000

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057997847/1

My thread on similar issues. I am so sick of this crime not being punished. It's time we start a repeal style movement in this country to change the laws and protect our kids. The government and the judiciary are letting this place go down the toliet.

washman3

Where is Catherine Zappone now, and her lunatic fringe.?? :mad:

Hal3000

washman3 wrote: »

Child porn on his 2 phones and laptop and this 'judge' sees fit to hand him a suspended sentence, ie lets him off scot free.
What a banana republic we live in.
Worse still, his family 'supports' him.
He shoud be fcuked into jail for 5 years minimun, and the judge with him.:mad:

Has the sick cnut that sent him those images/videos been tracked down and prosecuted.??

I doubt it. Nolan doesn't do prosecutions. Once you get a nice letter from some family member you can get off. God help the famalies of the kids in these videos, but Nolan isn't concerned about that. This country is becoming a total and utter hole because of these people. We will have a Trump syle leader next in Ireland because people are becoming so frustrated by everything that's just imposed on us and how weak of a country we've become.

Vic_08

mad muffin wrote: »

I mean. I don’t get it. Only a sick fûck get a text asking if you want to see child porn, and says yes. Then they find another video. Then another.

Only a paedo, known to be one by other paedos gets sent child abuse videos.

mad muffin wrote: »

But the judge is like. He’s a good man. A hard working man. The child porn wasn’t too bad. I’ve seen worse.

I meant what the actual fück?!

And his family says. Oh he’s a good hard working man. And his community sends letters vouching to his good character.

FÜCK! They are all sick fûcks :mad:

Judge Martin Nolan has lots of previous for giving suspended sentences to paedos and sex offenders, why he has such empathy for these types of people is an interesting question.

dudara

Moved from AH > CA

jaxxx

Set up a third part, unbiased committee of sorts that reviews and possibly overrules all judges rulings if they are deemed to be not sufficient? All you ever hear these days is rapists or abusers getting sentenced to a few years, as well as many suspended sentences being given? Wasn;t it just a few days ago a grandfather was found guilty of sexually assaulting his grandchild and all he was given was 4 years or something?? WTF is the point of suspended sentences anyway? It's a joke.

Hal3000

jaxxx wrote: »

Set up a third part, unbiased committee of sorts that reviews and possibly overrules all judges rulings if they are deemed to be not sufficient? All you ever hear these days is rapists or abusers getting sentenced to a few years, as well as many suspended sentences being given? WTF is the point of suspended sentences anyway? It's a joke.

Won't happen. It would need to be public pressure to make change. Get on to your local TD and complain. I know I will. The more people seek change the more likely it will happen. A government appointed committee will do absolutely nothing.

jaxxx

Hal3000 wrote: »

Won't happen. It would need to be public pressure to make change. Get on to your local TD and complain. I know I will. The more people seek change the more likely it will happen. A government appointed committee will do absolutely nothing.

My local TD is Niall Collins who is about as much use as a pencil in a swordfight, so no hope there!

mad muffin

Hal3000 wrote: »

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057997847/1

My thread on similar issues. I am so sick of this crime not being punished. It's time we start a repeal style movement in this country to change the laws and protect our kids. The government and the judiciary are letting this place go down the toliet.

I read that. And the other case. God it’s just so awful. The victims are scared for life but the predators roam free to commit again and again.

jaxxx

mad muffin wrote: »

I read that. And the other case. God it’s just so awful. The victims are scared for life but the predators roam free to commit again and again.

That's the law for ya: protect the guilty and make the innocent suffer!

Hal3000

jaxxx wrote: »

That's the law for ya: protect the guilty and make the innocent suffer!

It time for a change in this country. Place is being run into the ground. It's a race to the bottom and I for one have no idea why?

jaxxx

Hal3000 wrote: »

It time for a change in this country. Place is being run into the ground. It's a race to the bottom and I for one have no idea why?

Cos we're all sheep that continuously vote in wolves to shepherd us.


Me, personally? I just don't give a F anymore. I'm waiting for judgement day!

Jeff2

Bobblehats wrote: »

That’s gonna go down well in the community. Hopefully nobody goes full neeson

Ah, let then at it I say.
He'll get the message.

lola85

Anyone read the story about Veronica guerins brother a few weeks ago been caught with 1000 of child abuse images?

It was buried very quickly.


Seems a lot worst than this story.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/brother-of-murdered-journalist-veronica-guerin-pleads-guilty-to-possession-of-child-pornography-4720767-Jul2019/?amp=1

sydthebeat

Sharp MZ700 wrote: »

How can you oust a judge? Mexican style?

Is there now way to force retirement due to obvious lack of facilities? His sentences seem to be the outlier a lot of the time.

At a minimum he should not be appointed to this category of case any more

Redneck Reject

That is why they should switch to mandatory sentences for crimes and take away the discretion from judges. Because the judges abuse that right and not for the good of the public. IMHO

mad muffin

lola85 wrote: »

Anyone read the story about Veronica guerins brother a few weeks ago been caught with 1000 of child abuse images?

It was buried very quickly.


Seems a lot worst than this story.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/brother-of-murdered-journalist-veronica-guerin-pleads-guilty-to-possession-of-child-pornography-4720767-Jul2019/%3famp=1

He was granted bail on his own bond of €100, with no conditions and no cash lodgement required. He had also been granted free legal aid after the court heard he was retired.

Un****ing believe :mad:

biko

Julius Medeiros (55) said he had been sent a text message asking him if he wanted to see the video and he had replied yes

As you do, when you're a pedo

A follow up search found a second video on another phone and a third video on a computer at Medeiros's home

As you have, when you're a pedo



Why is it not reported WHO sent the video?
Was it three separate videos on the devices, or the same video replicated over?

Boggles

lola85 wrote: »

Anyone read the story about Veronica guerins brother a few weeks ago been caught with 1000 of child abuse images?

It was buried very quickly.


Seems a lot worst than this story.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/brother-of-murdered-journalist-veronica-guerin-pleads-guilty-to-possession-of-child-pornography-4720767-Jul2019/%3famp=1

Literally every news outlet reported it.

You are linking to one in your post.

:rolleyes:

mad muffin

biko wrote: »

As you do, when you're a pedo


As you have, when you're a pedo



Why is it not reported WHO sent the video?
Was it three separate videos on the devices, or the same video replicated over?

It’s like The authorities only pay lip service to child protection in this country.

Ulysses Gaze

mad muffin wrote: »

:mad:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-hears-child-porn-video-was-discovered-on-phone-of-father-of-two-after-it-was-left-in-for-repair-939451.html


Something has to be done about Irish law and the judiciary.

Any form of child abuse should carry a mandatory sentence. None of this suspended sentence bullsh

"Suspended Sentence" Nolan.

What did you expect?

Gimme A Pound

People shouldn't use the term "banana republic" when they don't know what it means.

punisher5112 wrote: »

What did they fight for freedom for to then let criminals walk all over us....

The legal system is a joke, the judges, the barrister, the solicitors etc.... All in it for the money....

We need another prison built and fast.....

Am I not allowed to my opinion??

He asked two questions - can you clarify how he implied that you're not allowed to your opinion and who's not allowing you?

jaxxx wrote: »

Cos we're all sheep that continuously vote in wolves to shepherd us.

No "we're" not. The legislation is sh1t - how's that our fault?

Gimme A Pound

Hal3000 wrote: »

It time for a change in this country. Place is being run into the ground. It's a race to the bottom and I for one have no idea why?

A culture of scum having the upper hand has been created - that's why.

Someone will come along and say we are all responsible or some such. Not true - only policy makers are.

Ronin247

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

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No "we're" not. The legislation is sh1t - how's that our fault?

We vote in the legislators..... repeatedly.

Gimme A Pound

Ronin247 wrote: »

We vote in the legislators..... repeatedly.

We can't predict the future.

This deflection of blame is a big part of the problem for Irish society today.

Ronin247

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

We can't predict the future.

This deflection of blame is a big part of the problem for Irish society today.

We cannot predict the future but they say that the first sign of madness is to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

We get the government we vote in.... they make the legislation (policy) and the legislators nominate the judges.

Hal3000

Newstalk had people on talking about the increase in cases around viewing child abuse imagery. They mentioned that Gardai are getting much better at detecting but of course they failed to mention anything about the constant suspended sentences handed down for viewing material.

Sonny noggs

Hal3000 wrote: »

Newstalk had people on talking about the increase in cases around viewing child abuse imagery. They mentioned that Gardai are getting much better at detecting but of course they failed to mention anything about the constant suspended sentences handed down for viewing material.

Not to mention the massive backlog in the forensic analysis of computer drives due to skilled staff shortages.

Boggles

Hal3000 wrote: »

Newstalk had people on talking about the increase in cases around viewing child abuse imagery. They mentioned that Gardai are getting much better at detecting but of course they failed to mention anything about the constant suspended sentences handed down for viewing material.

They still rely on the likes of the FBI and chance.

They have about 30 individuals working in their tech division who are snowed under with back log.

Hal3000

And another. Suspended sentences for sexual assault of minors is now the norm in Ireland

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-man-sexual-assault-cousins-4744600-Jul2019/

is_that_so

Hal3000 wrote: »

And another. Suspended sentences for sexual assault of minors is now the norm in Ireland

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-man-sexual-assault-cousins-4744600-Jul2019/

That one is a bit more complicated if you read down to the end of it.

Hal3000

is_that_so wrote: »

That one is a bit more complicated if you read down to the end of it.

I did thank you. Now please explain how it warrants suspended sentence please?

mesu

I'm new to this thread and I want to make a suggestion about the language people use when talking/writing about the images and videos featuring children being sexually abused and raped. Please stop calling it child pornography... that implies that these children are in some way consenting or participating of their own free will, just like the adults who do participate in the pornography industry.

They are not.

Let's start calling it what it is: images and videos of children being sexually abused and raped. Not any kind of porn. Using terms like child pornography is making it sound like it's a special sub section of a perfectly acceptable type of entertainment.

It is guaranteed that every single person who has posted on this thread (including me) has friends or family who look at this savagery regularly. It is not very unusual. It is just so bloody disappointing.

Hal3000

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-vigilante-sting-sexual-exploitation-4746740-Jul2019/

Another mostly suspended sentence.

SEPT 23 1989

You would wonder about N0lan