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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭ The Phantom Pain

    I thought Red Guardian's reaction was believable as a lot of men do tend to act like that towards women's issues and the two sisters leaned into that. I think Joss Whedon's approach worked as well. Tone is important. It's a matter of taste.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,481 ✭✭✭ Foxtrol

    I felt very similarly, whether the comment was right or wrong from our perspective his response fit into everything else we saw about the character - he loves the girls but his hopes and dreams for them was never what we'd expect from a normal parent, he saw them having a successful happy life being one where they were spies and killers. He never thought about what that cost them from a health or emotional perspective and when confronted with it here he deflects in the cowardly way he does repeatedly during the movie when things clash against his worldview.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭ pjohnson

    Yeah it ever stood out to me as it was in character.

    If he suddenly became emotional apologising asking forgiveness etc. it would have stuck out awfully. The response fitted the character.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭ The Phantom Pain

    Oh no. In that case, I take it back. I was wrong - I have to be! Bad, bad writing. Don't mind me. Carry on!

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ Need a Username

    No one criticising the moment suggested Red Guardian get all emotional and start apologising.

    He could have been silent which showed he understood or it could also have shown that this was the first he knew of it.

    Or let the let the moment as it (as Foxtrol says he never thought about the affect on the children) and later in that scene with Yalena before they are grabbed he says he is sorry this thing was done to her.

    The way it is makes it feel it was brought just for laughs

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