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protein shake caused man boobs

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  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    Whats with all the blow back have you guys got shares in protein shakes or something? Some of you guys need to chill its not a personal attack on anyone whos uses protein shakes.


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Go to an endocrinologist instead of guessing



    or it'll cost you a fortune redecorating the house and colour coordinating the towels

    Haha true enough. I might actually check one out


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    You said they only produce milk when they're pregnant. Anyhow I think it's very clear what this is about now.

    "I think it's very clear what this is about now" Can you please enlighten me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    If they gave you a program without testing your deadlifts, chin up, squat and flat bench then the program isn't worth the paper it's written on.

    If you're brand new to a gym no instructor worth their salt will test your deadlift during a basic assessment you learn basics on machines, move to free weights.
    However even at that deadlifting is more complicated than most lifts so it takes longer time to teach unlikely to be taught through a free assessment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    tvjunki wrote: »
    Alot of protein shakes are bulked out with soya or are soya based. This affects estrogen levels in the body. The same with protein bars. Most have soya as one of the first ingredients in the bar. If you take this you would be better getting a packet of chicken or ham after your workout.
    Just to give you an idea many ladies going through the menopause use soya supplement, soya based foods to bring up the estrogen level they have lost.
    Could be you more sensitive to the soya.
    Another thing many men also are told not to take soya if they have low sperm count as well. Estrogen can effect the testosterone and progesterone in the body. That is if you are thinking ahead.
    It can take a while for your body to recover and that is what has happened to you.

    Good quality proteins don't contain soy.
    They are hydrolised, concentrate or isolate whey.
    Good powders now don't contain much lactose either


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    High quality organic, grass-fed, whey protien with nothing added (no sweetners, synthetics or any other junk) should be fine.

    Avoid anything such as soya, plastics (food storage) and even essential essences (e.g. lavender) and do not take any 'rememdies' for hair loss also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    "I think it's very clear what this is about now" Can you please enlighten me?

    I think that's very unlikely


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 58 ✭✭Cyclical Apocalypse


    I'm sick of the myth that soy causes male breast development.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/12/9/9879230/soy-milk-man-boobs-gynecomastia

    If you are going to make such a claim at least back it up with a link or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    This sounds like time I introduced carrots into my diet and put on fat.

    I've done research that suggests carrots have shuttle fat from the ubulus to the central romulus.

    So not the cheesecake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    I'm sick of the myth that soy causes male breast development.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/12/9/9879230/soy-milk-man-boobs-gynecomastia

    If you are going to make such a claim at least back it up with a link or two.

    Nothing to do with multiple studies showing it suppresses testosterone by boosting estrogen in males going through puberty and prepubescent. I guarantee I can find an equal amount of links contradicting each other.
    Just search for actual scientific bodies that are peer researched.
    It's not a myth in the slightest.
    Will it in an average, healthy hormonally well balanced male, honestly probably not, in those who's hormones aren't stable good chance of it.
    Also excess estrogen is potentially cancerous in males of any age.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 58 ✭✭Cyclical Apocalypse


    Mjolnir wrote: »
    Nothing to do with multiple studies showing it suppresses testosterone by boosting estrogen in males going through puberty and prepubescent. I guarantee I can find an equal amount of links contradicting each other.
    Just search for actual scientific bodies that are peer researched.
    It's not a myth in the slightest.
    Will it in an average, healthy hormonally well balanced male, honestly probably not, in those who's hormones aren't stable good chance of it.
    Also, excess estrogen is potentially cancerous in males of any age.

    Any chance you could post a link to those studies because from all I've read eating and drinking reasonable amounts of soy had no adverse effects on individuals.

    Sorry, I don't subscribe to some of the Bro Science you see on some fitness forums.


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    I think that's very unlikely

    So you "think it's very clear what this is about now" but you are unable to tell people?. Ok


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    This sounds like time I introduced carrots into my diet and put on fat.

    I've done research that suggests carrots have shuttle fat from the ubulus to the central romulus.

    So not the cheesecake.

    Well at least some of the people on here have been helpful and are having good discussion on the topic.

    I can now understand how you have so much free time in your life to make over 20,000 posts on boards.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Well at least some of the people on here have been helpful and are having good discussion on the topic.

    I can now understand how you have so much free time in your life to make over 20,000 posts on boards.ie

    Used some of that free time to educate myself chief.

    Also use my free time to train and eat properly and whaddya know....no moobs even after having some protein shakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    Any chance you could post a link to those studies because from all I've read eating and drinking reasonable amounts of soy had no adverse effects on individuals.

    Sorry, I don't subscribe to some of the Bro Science you see on some fitness forums.

    I shall later bud I remember one involving an elderly gentleman who's soy intake caused gyno and 4 times the max blood concentration passable for his age, that was from a medical government website too.
    Also don't go by anything vox have they aren't a true media source and have literally no basis in science.

    I subscribe to both bro science and traditional science but vox is neither.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    I'm sick of the myth that soy causes male breast development.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/12/9/9879230/soy-milk-man-boobs-gynecomastia

    If you are going to make such a claim at least back it up with a link or two.


    Happens :


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18558591/

    An unusual case of gynecomastia associated with soy product consumption.



    A 60-year-old man was referred to the endocrinology clinic for evaluation of bilateral gynecomastia of 6 months' duration.

    He reported erectile dysfunction and decreased libido.

    On further review of systems, he reported no changes in testicular size, no history of testicular trauma, no sexually transmitted diseases, no headaches, no visual changes, and no change in muscular mass or strength.

    Initial laboratory assessment showed estrone and estradiol concentrations to be 4-fold increased above the upper limit of the reference range. !!!!!!!!!

    After he discontinued drinking soy milk, his breast tenderness resolved and his estradiol concentration slowly returned to normal.


    .


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    Used some of that free time to educate myself chief.

    Also use my free time to train and eat properly and whaddya know....no moobs even after having some protein shakes.

    Wow this insight into your life is so interesting you live a very exciting life. Have you told people the story of how you have no man boobs often its a great accomplishment, people must love the stories of how you train and eat properly??? Wow all that time you have spent to educate yourself seems to have opened so many doors for you? like you have 20,000 posts on boards.ie some people might think that is really really sad but not me i know better because i have been lucky enough to have such a funny interesting guy response to this thread.


  • Site Banned Posts: 136 ✭✭rainybillwill


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    A new account & making rid claims.

    Some people have too much time on their hands

    Says the one with over 11,000 posts :confused:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mod note: thread locked. Too many reported posts . Will review and take action later.

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