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Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,696 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    bilston wrote: »
    You can't draw too many conclusions from today. NZ have played 40 minutes with 14 men, albeit they were a point down when Barrett was sent off.

    They are still favourites for me. But they aren't as strong as the 2015 or 2011 sides.

    Other thing is no team that has won the RC has won the RWC the same year


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,813 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    New Zealand had the balls to drop senior players before the last World Cup and bring in some young players. They need to do the same again. Ben Smith, Franks, Whitelock and Read are not as good as some of the younger players available. It's time to be ruthless again and cut the legends and bring in the best players


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    eagle eye wrote: »
    New Zealand had the balls to drop senior players before the last World Cup and bring in some young players. They need to do the same again. Ben Smith, Franks, Whitelock and Read are not as good as some of the younger players available. It's time to be ruthless again and cut the legends and bring in the best players

    Who would you bring in to replace those 4?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Anyone watching England v Wales? England have started the game so much better than Wales. They look very sharp. Have already charged down a Davies box kick and intercepted one of his passes from the base of a ruck.

    Their first try came from some huge power carries that pushes Wales back, then some excellent running lines that cut through the defence.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Clegg wrote: »
    Anyone watching England v Wales? England have started the game so much better than Wales. They look very sharp. Have already charged down a Davies box kick and intercepted one of his passes from the base of a ruck.

    Their first try came from some huge power carries that pushes Wales back, then some excellent running lines that cut through the defence.

    Yep Wales don't look settled


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Is this only on sky?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    14-0 to England after 15 minutes. Second try came after 4 or 5 minutes of sustained pressure on the Welsh 5 metre line. They already had a ball held up over the line. Then kept pounding away till they made it over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Wales are making mistakes they normally wouldn't. Passes not going to hand and being knocked on. Just a moment ago Liam Williams carried into contact but didn't protect the ball and knocked on.

    The Wales had a lovely counterattack from their own 10 metre line. Some good passing then a ruck near the posts. About 8 England players had already scrambled back to a defensive position with no Welsh guys within 5 metres. Weren't tuned into the break.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Clegg wrote: »
    Anyone watching England v Wales? England have started the game so much better than Wales. They look very sharp. Have already charged down a Davies box kick and intercepted one of his passes from the base of a ruck.

    Their first try came from some huge power carries that pushes Wales back, then some excellent running lines that cut through the defence.

    Looking good but probably hard enough to read fully into these games?

    I'm sure England supporters will be covering their eyes anytime Vunipola goes into any contact in these warm ups!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    That was incredibly lazy defending there from Billy V, slow to get up off the scrum and no real effort to track Davis.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    No idea what to make of Gareth Davies. Scored an incredible individual try but has been intercepted, had a kick blocked down, them was so slow for another box kick that he was essentially sacked at the base of a ruck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Tom Curry is subbed off holding his shoulder.

    Gareth Anscombe has to be helped off by two physios. Looks like he hurt his knee.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Poor from Joseph there not to make the pass to Ford


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    England scrum and mail their way to the Welsh 22. Wales manage to hold their attack up and maul them into touch. But the Welsh lineout in their 5 metre line goes too high, Cowan-Dickie intercepts and scores the try

    21-7 at half time. Strange game. England definitely looked sharper for the first 20. Very strong and fast but their skills look quite good. Wales on the other hand looked very rusty with basic skills letting them down. But also look lethal on the counter attack.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What a line out from the world number 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Wow that was poor from the Welsh lineout, soft try to concede


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That is an appalling try to give away at this level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yep Wales don't look settled

    Going long on a defensive line-out ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭ongarite


    LOL!
    Going long on line out on your 5M line is crazy stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    It’s almost as if the Welsh players don’t care for the #1 ranking.


    If anything today had only really confirmed how I don’t miss rugby on Sky.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭armchaircoach


    Did Anyone else's game just turn into soccer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Good to see Aaron Shingler back. First time playing since he picked up a knee injury in the 2018 Pro 14 final.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    England are blisteringly predictable. They will get on top of almost any team with that hard hitting opening 20 minutes but survive that, don't give up much of a lead and don't get rattled and they are easy pickings.

    They haven't evolved at all since the South Africa tour and the Springboks in their typical relentless physical approach to the game really laid down the template to beat England.

    Wales need to inject some pace and width into their game and England will open up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Rucks still a mess, AWJ in at the side in the lead up to the latest welsh try and just now Ford taken clean out past the ruck with the AR looking on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    What a line out from the world number 1

    Their reign looks like being all of about 24 hours. Not sure it will even
    go down as a reign given World Rugby rankings are updated each Monday.

    I guess they’ll just have to beat NZ one of these days rather than relying on other teams to do it for them...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Between this and the Ireland game yesterday I've never seen such a lack of creativity off the set piece. Absolutely nothing being given away which is denying Wales any platform against a solid England defence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,617 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    That was wild. What a kick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 359 ✭✭NeonWolf


    NZ world number 1 again.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    England Squad announced
    Forwards: Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 86 caps) **

    Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 12 caps)

    Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 11 caps)

    Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 10 caps)

    Jamie George (Saracens, 37 caps) *

    Maro Itoje (Saracens, 27 caps)

    George Kruis (Saracens, 32 caps) *

    Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 59 caps) *

    Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 72 caps) **

    Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)

    Joe Marler (Harlequins, 58 caps) *

    Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 22 caps)

    Jack Singleton (Saracens, 1 cap)

    Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)

    Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 42 caps) *

    Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 53 caps) *

    Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons / Sale Sharks, 13 caps)

    Backs: Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 5 caps)

    Elliot Daly (Saracens, 31 caps)

    Owen Farrell (Saracens, 70 caps) *

    George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 56 caps) *

    Piers Francis (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)

    Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)

    Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 41 caps) *

    Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 45 caps) *

    Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby, uncapped)

    Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 33 caps) *

    Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 22 caps) *

    Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 33 caps) *

    Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 34 caps) *

    Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 86 caps) **

    * number of Rugby World Cup tournaments played


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  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭roverjoyce


    This is worth a look

    Very Well done


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS55e7bFVKo


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