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What's the story with canned food?

  • 13-07-2019 2:50pm
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    Was in the shop earlier perusing and there was a mad variety of canned stuff. Fish, pate, chicken etc.

    Is it bad? Is it all full of salt like I've been led to believe? I know little about it since I only get the odd tin of tuna.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,044 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    It's food, in a can.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    Was in the shop earlier perusing and there was a mad variety of canned stuff. Fish, pate, chicken etc.

    Is it bad? Is it all full of salt like I've been led to believe? I know little about it since I only get the odd tin of tuna.
    Full of salt and preservatives, but when faced with canned food vs no food, it's fine.

    Some things are obviously better than others. Tinned tomatos etc = good. Tinned spam/entire chickens = poor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It depends on what's in the can. Some canned foods are excellent others are rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    It depends on what's in the can. Some canned foods are excellent others are rubbish.
    A friend of mine is stereotypically French and she adores snails. Obviously we don't get them in Ireland, but she buys tinned snails in some mad exclusive shop in France. They're about €50 a can but they're actually quite tasty. They don't come in shells so she has a collection of shells that she puts them into if she's serving them at a party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    sullivlo wrote: »
    Full of salt and preservatives, but when faced with canned food vs no food, it's fine.

    Some things are obviously better than others. Tinned tomatos etc = good. Tinned spam/entire chickens = poor.

    The whole point of the can is that you don't need salt or preservatives. So why would they add to the cost of production by using canning and preservatives when they could just use preservatives?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Get some cans of Guinness and you'll have no more worries about canned food


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I have snails in my garden if she wants some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Food and drink in a can. What will they think of next :O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,044 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I have snails in my garden if she wants some.

    The fcukers are everywhere these days!

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 nuyil simp


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Food and drink in a can. What will they think of next :O

    You can get wine in cans now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    nuyil simp wrote: »
    You can get wine in cans now

    Beer can size?

    Interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    Was in the shop earlier perusing and there was a mad variety of canned stuff. Fish, pate, chicken etc.

    Is it bad? Is it all full of salt like I've been led to believe? I know little about it since I only get the odd tin of tuna.
    [Andy Warhol likes this]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The whole point of the can is that you don't need salt or preservatives. So why would they add to the cost of production by using canning and preservatives when they could just use preservatives?
    Most will still have some form of salt or preservative though. Tuna in brine, for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,962 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Pretty horrific story about what can go wrong with early attempts at canned food... lead poisoning and improperly sealed cans during the 1845 expedition to the Arctic by HMS Erebus and HMS Terror.
    https://www.historytoday.com/archive/canned-food-sealed-icemens-fate

    Without canned foods, it would not have been possible for the trench warfare of mass armies in World War One to have occurred, as there would have been no way to supply such numbers all year round with fresh food.

    Thankfully things have moved on since then but with home canning there's a risk of botulism.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    sullivlo wrote: »
    Most will still have some form of salt or preservative though. Tuna in brine, for example.

    it comes in sunflower oil too..

    and baked beans... a staple...;

    But tins are heat sealed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Canned fruit and vegetables are often more nutritional than fresh. Also, convenient, store for longer and less waste. Although items like baked beans can have half a cup of sugar per can. Tinned foods can a great benefit but always worth reading the ingredients.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    sullivlo wrote:
    A friend of mine is stereotypically French and she adores snails. Obviously we don't get them in Ireland, but she buys tinned snails in some mad exclusive shop in France. They're about €50 a can but they're actually quite tasty. They don't come in shells so she has a collection of shells that she puts them into if she's serving them at a party.


    I worked in several 5 star hotels in my younger days and what your friend does is common practice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    canned tomatoes and pineapple are absolutely essential in ireland as the fresh versions we get here are dreadful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    I worked in several 5 star hotels in my younger days and what your friend does is common practice.
    Oh yeah I know! They have a collection of "nice" shells and are stored like any other bowl!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Ortiz tuna
    Mutti tomatoes

    Both very good.
    Beer has to be bottled though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Pretty horrific story about what can go wrong with early attempts at canned food... lead poisoning and improperly sealed cans during the 1845 expedition to the Arctic by HMS Erebus and HMS Terror.
    https://www.historytoday.com/archive/canned-food-sealed-icemens-fate

    Without canned foods, it would not have been possible for the trench warfare of mass armies in World War One to have occurred, as there would have been no way to supply such numbers all year round with fresh food.

    Thankfully things have moved on since then but with home canning there's a risk of botulism.


    One of the maddest food achievements I ever saw was a guy eating from an Army Reserve Ration (some variety of beef if I recall correctly) which was assembled in 1901 for the Boer War. These things were long out of expiry by the time the First World War started and yet he nibbles away at it in 2018 with no bother. I can only presume after 100 or so years everything had decayed to have no life/bacteria left in it at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    BPA


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    BPA

    Least of my worries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Closet I've come to death was from a tin of mackeral fillets.
    Three days to recover.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    kneemos wrote: »
    Closet I've come to death was from a tin of mackeral fillets.
    Three days to recover.

    What?
    I'm constantly eating the stuff.

    Did you leave it for a while after opening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    What?
    I'm constantly eating the stuff.

    Did you leave it for a while after opening?


    Don't think so. Went through a spell of bad luck with food poisoning.
    The fish was the worst though. Filled the wash had basin with projectile vomit,while filling the loo on the other end.

    I was eating them for years as well without a problem. Just bad luck I imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Was in the shop earlier perusing and there was a mad variety of canned stuff. Fish, pate, chicken etc.

    Is it bad? Is it all full of salt like I've been led to believe? I know little about it since I only get the odd tin of tuna.

    Read the labels. Plenty of canned food has no salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Was in the shop earlier perusing and there was a mad variety of canned stuff. Fish, pate, chicken etc.

    Is it bad? Is it all full of salt like I've been led to believe? I know little about it since I only get the odd tin of tuna.

    I agree, something very suspicious going on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Ortiz tuna
    Mutti tomatoes

    Both very good.
    Beer has to be bottled though.

    Does beer have to be bottled? I drink cans of Guinness and they are lovely.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Does beer have to be bottled? I drink cans of Guinness and they are lovely.

    I don't like canned lager.
    Guinness is OK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Are there any items that you can only get in a can?

    Baked beans perhaps? And I don't mean that 'artisan' rubbish. Just regular baked beans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Are there any items that you can only get in a can?

    Baked beans perhaps? And I don't mean that 'artisan' rubbish. Just regular baked beans.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    Ye'll be delighted with canned goods when the fresh food is rotting on the quays after Brexit :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I don't like canned lager.
    Guinness is OK.

    Bottled lager deteriorates quicker than canned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    kneemos wrote: »
    Closet I've come to death was from a tin of mackeral fillets.
    Three days to recover.

    A friend of mine was very nearly killed by frozen chicken .


    A pallet of frozen chickens fell on him in a food distribution plant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Are there any items that you can only get in a can?

    Baked beans perhaps? And I don't mean that 'artisan' rubbish. Just regular baked beans.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Nothing exclusively in a can so?

    That full breakfast in a can looks disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    The only canned stuff I eat is tinned fish, usually pink salmon, tuna and those little rectangle mackerel things in oil. Also I eat baked beans BUT I put them in a sieve and let 90% of the tomato sauce run off. They taste just as nice that way and beans are nutritious.

    Those meals in a can like stew, meatballs etc must be pure muck. Wouldn't touch those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Fray Bentos is really tasty. Hate to think what's in it though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    What?
    I'm constantly eating the stuff.

    Did you leave it for a while after opening?

    I used to live on canned mack. So many flavours available these days too. Ortiz as you mentioned earlier is the absolute bomb, I treat myself the odd time to a can!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    kneemos wrote: »
    Fray Bentos is really tasty. Hate to think what's in it though.

    Fray Bentos is a city in Brazil did you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Fray Bentos is a city in Brazil did you know?

    Uruguay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Uruguay.

    No you are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    If you were to subtract the metal elements from a tin of food, you have a 'thin plastic bag' of foodstuffs.
    The interior metal rarely touches any of the contents (not an ideal situation to have tomatoes rubbing up on aluminum).

    Hence always check the BBD and avoid any that appear damaged incase it deteriorates the internal BPA coating stuff.
    Fine once in a while, but not everyday.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The whole point of the can is that you don't need salt or preservatives. So why would they add to the cost of production by using canning and preservatives when they could just use preservatives?
    Napoleon got bottled food going back in 1809
    The can was invented the following year.


    And the food simply had to last because the can opener wasn't invented until 1855.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Sciprio


    Chicken in a can is the stuff of nightmares.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    Ya can’t beat a tin of lychees IMO. No peeling, no stones and taste the same as fresh. Hard to find though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,578 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Pretty horrific story about what can go wrong with early attempts at canned food... lead poisoning and improperly sealed cans during the 1845 expedition to the Arctic by HMS Erebus and HMS Terror.
    https://www.historytoday.com/archive/canned-food-sealed-icemens-fate

    Book out about that not so long ago, it's on my in tray.
    kneemos wrote: »
    Fray Bentos is really tasty. Hate to think what's in it though.

    A few tribes that opposed cutting down the forest to make room for pasture might have supplied some of the meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    canned tomatoes and pineapple are absolutely essential in ireland as the fresh versions we get here are dreadful

    Have to agree, most fresh tomatoes are tasteless and pineapple tends to have mould on its underside by the time it gets to the supermarket shelves.

    Tried growing tomatoes a few years ago but they got blight and rotted before my eyes.

    I'll stick to the tinned stuff, I'm partial to tinned peaches too, and chickpeas.


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