Well done Peugeot

road_high

Topping the JD power survey in the UK https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/peugeot-named-as-most-dependable-car-brand-in-uk-by-jd-power-1.3887615%3fmode=amp

Certainly one brand that had really upped its game with great products and premium feeling quality.
If only poor Fiat could take a leaf out of their books.

biko

https://europe.jdpower.com/press-releases/2019-uk-vehicle-dependability-study

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100
has three Peugeots on their list
17. Peugeot 107
31. Peugeot Partner Tepee
89. Peugeot 206 CC

Toyotafanboi

It's indicative of them being good for sure, I dont ever remember them being desperately unreliable though, just a bit flakey. There's got to be flaws in the poll though and they are subject to fan boy ism I think, seeing as Skoda/ Seat/ VW, Hyundai/ Kia and Renault/ Dacia can all end up so far away from one another

Jake5991

Ah lads ah lads ffs !! Dont me going near Peugeot its absolute dirt coming from a previous owner of a 206 its a ball of ****e i had never so many problems with the axle brushings and injectors

road_high

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It's indicative of them being good for sure, I dont ever remember them being desperately unreliable though, just a bit flakey. There's got to be flaws in the poll though and they are subject to fan boy ism I think, seeing as Skoda/ Seat/ VW, Hyundai/ Kia and Renault/ Dacia can all end up so far away from one another

I think so- doesn’t it cover a lot of owner experience type stuff so mightn’t be the most objective I suppose- someone buying a Skoda may have lower expectations than an Audi or VW owner

road_high

Jake5991 wrote: »

Ah lads ah lads ffs !! Dont me going near Peugeot its absolute dirt coming from a previous owner of a 206 its a ball of ****e i had never so many problems with the axle brushings and injectors

Yea but they’re over 20 years old now, the survey wouldn’t cover them. For all the rap it got the 206 it really is a great little survivor. Was a ton of them still on the roads up until the past two years

Jake5991

road_high wrote: »

Yea but they’re over 20 years old now, the survey wouldn’t cover them. For all the rap it got the 206 it really is a great little survivor. Was a ton of them still on the roads up until the past two years

I had a lot of cars in my years i even had a citroen but i drove the crap out of it ao i didn't expect it to last long and it didn't. Best iv had was ford and Toyota and maybe Mitsubishi/itchypusssy

Atoms for Peace

I had a range of x06 pugs and never had a problem with them. They did seem to lose the plot with the 07's, but thankfully they've gone back to the more pinnafarinna style of their previous heyday.

bazz26

Peugeot are the crest of a wave at present. From their SUV range to the 508 to the forthcoming 208/2008 have nailed the styling both inside and out, the fit and finish of these cars seems to be top quality too for the class they are competing in. You also don't hear too many horror stories around reliability of their recent cars either.

lawred2

Jake5991 wrote: »

Ah lads ah lads ffs !! Dont me going near Peugeot its absolute dirt coming from a previous owner of a 206 its a ball of ****e i had never so many problems with the axle brushings and injectors

It's a survey of more recent cars not some pos from the last century

JoeA3

I had a 5008 rental in France a few weeks ago. I was really impressed with it. Very nice to drive, the interior felt very well put together, very stylish inside and out.

They’ve definitely upped their game as the previous 12-15 years they put out some awful dreary stuff.

road_high

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I had a range of x06 pugs and never had a problem with them. They did seem to lose the plot with the 07's, but thankfully they've gone back to the more pinnafarinna style of their previous heyday.

They went through a terrible blobby phase from about 03-11. Really crap cars with poor quality to match. Turned a corner with the outgoing 208 and they’ve been on a roll ever since. They’re in the top ten sellers in Ireland consistently for a while now

road_high

bazz26 wrote: »

Peugeot are the crest of a wave at present. From their SUV range to the 508 to the forthcoming 208/2008 have nailed the styling both inside and out, the fit and finish of these cars seems to be top quality too for the class they are competing in. You also don't hear too many horror stories around reliability of their recent cars either.

I’d take one over any of the equivalent VW which are clearly their bench mark rival.

bazz26

Their top spec models are eye wateringly expensive though, 51k for a 508 GT Line.

road_high

bazz26 wrote: »

Their top spec models are eye wateringly expensive though, 51k for a 508 GT Line.

I’d say they’re hedging their bets a bit now as they probably are trying to ring maximum profit from their vehicles as they can charge more now.
The outgoing 208 was a very affordable and quality car to get into. Know someone who did the scrappage offer into a new one for just over €15k with very decent mid range spec (stuff VW or Toyota wouldn’t give you). I could really see the appeal of one

road_high

bazz26 wrote: »

Their top spec models are eye wateringly expensive though, 51k for a 508 GT Line.

That's well into new BMW 3 series Sport/M Sport territory. Now the new 508 is a super vehicle but needs to be priced well below the established premium makes to be realistic.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TnGjq9mWSI

DaveyDave

I do like the new cars they're putting out and they seem to be decent spec but the prices are pushing it a bit. 508 is a cracking looking car inside and out, one of the few cars that interest me.

Seeing quite a few of them on the roads, I wonder are they discounting them much? Their prices are quite high compared to the rivals I think.

route66

Are Toyotas really less reliable than Renaults and Citroens?

And (despite a thread here on their junk engines) is the Insignia really the best mid-size car?

No issues with the "Pewjoes" success, but some of the results don't match other recent surveys I've read ...

ShadowHearth

Jake5991 wrote: »

Ah lads ah lads ffs !! Dont me going near Peugeot its absolute dirt coming from a previous owner of a 206 its a ball of ****e i had never so many problems with the axle brushings and injectors

I had a 406 and it was one of the most reliable cars I ever owned. Fantastic machine, great sound isolation too.
Then I bought 500eu 206 as a run around for few months. It was piece of ****, horrible yolk to be in and drive, it would never pass next nct, but still did its job taking me to work and back home. Did good few trips to Limerick from North Cork when I was still just going out with my misses.

People here are very snobish when it comes to french cars. It's a shame, they are very good now and I really could see myself in new 508. It's a shame it's price tag went so damn high.

Poulgorm

route66 wrote: »

Are Toyotas really less reliable than Renaults and Citroens?

And (despite a thread here on their junk engines) is the Insignia really the best mid-size car?

No issues with the "Pewjoes" success, but some of the results don't match other recent surveys I've read ...

The answer to your 2 questions is a resounding "no".

The JD Power surveys are always rubbish. The reports by the firms that offer guarantees after the manufacturer's warranty has expired are much more reliable and based on hard facts. The Japanese and Koreans always top the polls in those ones.

road_high

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I had a 406 and it was one of the most reliable cars I ever owned. Fantastic machine, great sound isolation too.
Then I bought 500eu 206 as a run around for few months. It was piece of ****, horrible yolk to be in and drive, it would never pass next nct, but still did its job taking me to work and back home. Did good few trips to Limerick from North Cork when I was still just going out with my misses.

People here are very snobish when it comes to french cars. It's a shame, they are very good now and I really could see myself in new 508. It's a shame it's price tag went so damn high.

Are they really though? Renault and Peugeot are in the top ten sellers here! Both have very good abs wide dealer networks which helps I think

DaveyDave

Just looking at the price list after watching this review, it's €41k for the GT Line 180hp petrol automatic. More or less top spec. I believe the Allure spec is also decently kitted out at around €38k. Would a high spec Passat be north of €40k? It's not on the config. Keeping in mind it would probably be at least €1,500 more if we had the 180hp TSI.

Only downside is their finance offerings aren't great, 4.9% and lousy contributions. Calculator isn't working so no idea of payments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rk315vS1UM

road_high

I’d take one over a Passat all day long. The residuals will probably be fairly strong as the recent range hold their value very well

bazz26

I think they won't sell in huge numbers here and I just cannot see the high end variants selling well in this country because of the pricing. It would be very difficult to sink 50k+ of your own money into a new Peug irrespective of how good a car they are. If importing from the UK is still viable beyond Brexit then there certainly could be value in importing a 1 or 2 year old top GT or GT Line model. Their rarity here wouldn't be a bad thing though among the sea of the usual rep mobiles.

road_high

Probably not at those prices alright

Henry Ford III

BMW's position is shocking

road_high

bazz26 wrote: »

I think they won't sell in huge numbers here and I just cannot see the high end variants selling well in this country because of the pricing. It would be very difficult to sink 50k+ of your own money into a new Peug irrespective of how good a car they are. If importing from the UK is still viable beyond Brexit then there certainly could be value in importing a 1 or 2 year old top GT or GT Line model. Their rarity here wouldn't be a bad thing though among the sea of the usual rep mobiles.

I’ve seen a few of them around already but maybe I’m just noticing them more as the styling is so head turning. If the pricing had been keener it would have sold pretty well I think. The old 508 was a good car and good value

road_high

If you could live the 1.5 Hdi a well specced manual is in the €33-36k range. I hear it’s perfectly acceptable

hmmm

The big difference for me in most of the current range is the interiors, which are a class above, and exterior styling - not overtly flashy, but without the breadbin look of older models. They've also got a super range of engines which only sip fuel.

The Satanist

road_high wrote: »

If you could live the 1.5 Hdi a well specced manual is in the €33-36k range. I hear it’s perfectly acceptable

No car enthusiast is gonna take a 1.5 French diesel car seriously. Same issue with the RCZ, nice styling but crap engine choices.

Blazer

Henry Ford III wrote: »

BMW's position is shocking

Its not really for anyone that's owned one.
The worst thing you can do is buy a new BMW model in its first year.
My F10 had has a ****load of problems regarding seals, aircon, headlight modules, idrive unit etc. The engine itself is rock solid thank christ otherwise I'd crush the ****er.
If I do ever buy a BMW again I'll make sure its always the LCI model as they're 3-4 years into the lifecycle of that car model.

road_high

The Satanist wrote: »

No car enthusiast is gonna take a 1.5 French diesel car seriously. Same issue with the RCZ, nice styling but crap engine choices.

Wouldn’t be unique to PSA! How many VWs are the 1.6 vs the 2.0 l ?
I’d want the 2.0 l if it were me but ma t motorists would be perfectly happy with the 1.5 if it performs reasonably

Mad_maxx

bazz26 wrote: »

I think they won't sell in huge numbers here and I just cannot see the high end variants selling well in this country because of the pricing. It would be very difficult to sink 50k+ of your own money into a new Peug irrespective of how good a car they are. If importing from the UK is still viable beyond Brexit then there certainly could be value in importing a 1 or 2 year old top GT or GT Line model. Their rarity here wouldn't be a bad thing though among the sea of the usual rep mobiles.

The 5008 is selling well, no cheap used ones either

50k new for the 2L however is steep

zilog_jones

German cars were always muck, change my mind
New 508 looks like a great car.

One things I've noticed with Toyotas is that their satnav/ICE units on European models are awful buggy messes, which may be impacting surveys like this. They don't even have CarPlay or Android Auto. They should just give up and stop trying to make their own.

fergal.b

A few weeks now with my 508 GT 2lt diesel and I have to say I love it, a bit of a mid life crises but boy does it bring me back to the days of my 1.9 GTI and puts the same smile on my face

Sharp MZ700

They're a fantastic looking car. Well wear!

PaudyW

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Really is a pretty car, I think its the best looking motor in its segment. Saw a lovely white one on autotrader UK the other day.

Its a poor looking mustang,

bazz26

I think you might need to make an appointment with Specsavers. Neither car look like each other.

Marcusm

The Satanist wrote: »

No car enthusiast is gonna take a 1.5 French diesel car seriously. Same issue with the RCZ, nice styling but crap engine choices.

But the RCZ also came with a 266bhp 1.6 petrol. Surelybthe problem here is focusing on the diesel versions. There was also a 200bhp version of that engine.

ba_barabus

Had a sit in an estate one, looks great.

bennya

fergal.b wrote: »

A few weeks now with my 508 GT 2lt diesel and I have to say I love it, a bit of a mid life crises but boy does it bring me back to the days of my 1.9 GTI and puts the same smile on my face

That is an absolutely stunning colour/spec. Well wear

road_high

508 is a stunner in red, and GT line. And a 2.0 l to boot. How much was that car on the road?

fergal.b

road_high wrote: »

508 is a stunner in red, and GT line. And a 2.0 l to boot. How much was that car on the road?

52k but I got some added extras on top of the top of the range model





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coolbeans

Jake5991 wrote: »

Ah lads ah lads ffs !! Dont me going near Peugeot its absolute dirt coming from a previous owner of a 206 its a ball of ****e i had never so many problems with the axle brushings and injectors

One sh1te doesn't make a sh1tstorm.

GavMan

fergal.b wrote: »

Cracking Starlet there too

Philb76

GavMan wrote: »

Cracking Starlet there too

Great looking 508 and is that not a micra

GavMan

Philb76 wrote: »

Great looking 508 and is that not a micra

Could well be a Micra now you say it but you are right, its not a Starlet. Very similar rear light threw me