Silage - what the hay?

Marty Xavier

I just can't get my head around the difference between hay and silage. Is silage just wettish hay that can be wrapped or what?

the beer revolu

As I understand it, silage is fermented grass.
(fresh grass, covered and allowed to ferment)

Haylage is hay (dried grass) wrapped in plastic - probably ferments too.

Could be wrong, though.

D3V!L

Maybe someone can also explain "roadside frontage" ? Im a dumb jackeen and this one has always perplexed me.

the beer revolu

D3V!L wrote: »

Maybe someone can also explain "roadside frontage" ? Im a dumb jackeen and this one has always perplexed me.

Fields with edges along the road.

D3V!L

the beer revolu wrote: »

Fields with edges along the road.

Nope.......


You've lost me

punisher5112

Marty Xavier wrote: »

I just can't get my head around the difference between hay and silage. Is silage just wettish hay that can be wrapped or what?

Silage is cut and bailed quite soon after cut...

Hay is left out and turned or shook a number of times to dry it out....

Silage bails or pits and hay can be square bailed, rectangular or round...

ShlugEireann

Google it.

uck51js9zml2yt

Next someone will be aghast that their burger comes from a bullock

riffmongous

Both are winter feeds, but they work on different principles. Silage tries to stay unspoiled through keeping a higher moisture content and low oxygen content, leading to fermentation which reduces the possibility of spoiling bacteria occurring. Hay relies on low moisture content to avoid spoiling bacteria. There is a lot more to it than that though with different kinds of silage and some nutritional differences. In Irish weather conditions silage is more advantageous since you don't need long periods of good weather to dry it out like with hay

Deebles McBeebles

D3V!L wrote: »

Nope.......


You've lost me

Gives an approximation of the size of someone's farm, a guy with plenty of road frontage is likely to have a big farm and land that could be sold for a few quid.

CardBordWindow

Fermented grass........

So how much do I need to eat to get hammered?

the beer revolu

CardBordWindow wrote: »

Fermented grass........

So how much do I need to eat to get hammered?

I know you jest, but not all fernentations produce alcohol. Sauerkraut or kimchi, for example. Or yoghurt.

SEPT 23 1989

they have big sheds, but nobody's allowed in

TheValeyard

Is there a beer made from fermented hay/silage then?

branie2

It's very smelly as well

TheValeyard

branie2 wrote: »

It's very smelly as well

This is true.

riffmongous

TheValeyard wrote: »

Is there a beer made from fermented hay/silage then?

Yep, gone off silage is used as the basis for Harp

Church on Tuesday

_Brian

Bruno High Trail wrote: »

Next someone will be aghast that their burger comes from a bullock

Majority of burgers come from old cows 10+ years.

Big events like World Cup etc where McDonalds sell lots of burgers pushes up the price of old end of life cows.

Force Carrier

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Gives an approximation of the size of someone's farm, a guy with plenty of road frontage is likely to have a big farm and land that could be sold for a few quid.

I always thought it was because you can build lots of those one off bungaloes that blight the countryside or houses even. Along the road. So the farmer can sell lots of parcels of land to prospective bungaloe dwellers and make a lot of money.

Mickeroo

the beer revolu wrote: »

I know you jest, but not all fernentations produce alcohol. Sauerkraut or kimchi, for example. Or yoghurt.

Pretty sure silage is one of the ones that does produce alcohol though.

ShlugEireann

Force Carrier wrote: »

I always thought it was because you can build lots of those one off bungaloes that blight the countryside or houses even. Along the road. So the farmer can sell lots of parcels of land to prospective bungaloe dwellers and make a lot of money.

You are correct. You can have little road frontage yet still have a large farm if your land is landlocked.

As for it's value, women like men with road frontage so they can easily build a house together there. It's nothing to do with selling sites or anything.

It's just a womens tagline on tinder anyways. Doubt most of them saying it no what it means either.

A girl saying "D'ya have much road frontage" is just a joke as it makes the girl look like she's looking well into the future, of building a house, rearing kids with a fella she just met.

freshpopcorn

Silage is basically cut and collected or wrapped and pretty fast.
Hay is cut and it's dried out ot can be bailed in either round or square bails.
Hayage is only really made in my experience when the farmer intended to make hay and it got wet or he didn't get it saved in time. It's wrapped also.

Outlaw Pete

Guinness is cold pressed silage juice.

uck51js9zml2yt

Silage is great stuff. I've a few dozen bales of it for sale if anyone wants any!!

jammiedodgers

Bales of silage/hay lads. Bail is what you usually have to do with them jackeens! :pac:

Allinall

Giant Haystacks was so big, they had a chair specially made for him when he appeared on the Late Late Show.

Hay cocks are round and about 5 feet high.

They are generally only left in the fields for a couple of days. they are then brought in and stored in bulk in a hay shed.

Tramp cocks are made from ordinary hay cocks. ( About 20 haycocks to one tramp cock), and left in the field for the cattle to be fed from.
So called because as the hay cocks were broken down and stacked to make the tramp cock, the hay was trampled on to pack it tighter, making it easier for the rain to run off.

Treacle is sometimes mixed in with silage. The cows love it.

Snow Garden

D3V!L wrote: »

Nope.......


You've lost me

Road frontage is more about how many sites you can sell.
A one off house needs a minimum 0.5 acre site these days.
During the boom a site could sell for up to 300k Euro in my area. Back to 50k now.

The difference between hay and silage is simple.

Silage is fermented, the other is dry.

Well done, you have now earned a C3 in ag science.

Next, gather a few roadside plants and learn their names.

BENDYBINN

People often go for a roll in the hay.........but never in the silage..
Hope this explains..

kneemos

They drive over you when collecting silage.

Hay is a leisurely job.

punisher5112

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Guinness is cold pressed silage juice.

Um um um silage juice....

Outlaw Pete

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Guinness is cold pressed silage juice.

Reminds me of French slang for an americano

"jus de chaussette" (sock gravy)

Ragnar Lothbrok

Instead of the usual arguments about travellers/muslims/vegans/gays, I'm really excited about the possibility that AH can serve up a decent farmer v anti-farmer thread here

ToddyDoody

D3V!L wrote: »

Nope.......


You've lost me

Its land the council might purchase if they decide to widen the road.

peasant

Think sauerkraut vs dried cabbage *





* yes, such a thing exists

ILoveYourVibes

Marty Xavier wrote: »

I just can't get my head around the difference between hay and silage. Is silage just wettish hay that can be wrapped or what?

No its fermented fodder.

Hay is cut long grass dried out. Silage is the cut grass and fermented.

It has a very high acid content.

ILoveYourVibes

peasant wrote: »

Think sauerkraut vs dried cabbage *





* yes, such a thing exists

Perfect actually.

Fr_Dougal

All I know is ci-ba-gag-e don’t care about Ireland anymore. Them and those 10-10-20 pups have abandoned us.

WesternZulu

They're both vegan.

Esel

What does a gay horse eat?





















Haaayyyy!

I have me coat.

blinding

You need to eat some of both to really appreciate the difference .

Did they make some sort of bread from silage in Britain during the war or was I on Drugs ?

Bannasidhe

blinding wrote: »

You need to eat some of both to really appreciate the difference .

Did they make some sort of bread from silage in Britain during the war or was I on Drugs ?

They made drugs out of silage.
Bread was made from hay.

blinding

Bannasidhe wrote: »

They made drugs out of silage.
Bread was made from hay.

Is this a knowledge based post or after hours knowledge ?;)