Brake pads & discs for I30, huge quote?

LizzeyBenett

Just quoted 500 from Athlas for this job , I nearly got sick on the phone as my car is due its NCT but I cant afford that I don't even have cash to hand if I wanted to get that job done, Is this a standard price ?? Its a Hyundai I30 132, has anyone found anywhere cheaper that did a good job ? Im based in Ballyfermot.

colm_mcm

Front or back or both?

Get a second opinion on whether discs are required.

LizzeyBenett

colm_mcm wrote: »

Front or back or both?

Get a second opinion on whether discs are required.

Both unfortunetley tempted to let it go through nct and see what they say

colm_mcm

Who normally services the car?


Was this a pre NCT check or something?

LizzeyBenett

colm_mcm wrote: »

Who normally services the car?

I don't have a regular mechanic this is my problem I left it into Atlas and this is what they quoted me have a feeling if I shop around I may be able to get it cheaper ? But I do feel like some not all will see a woman coming and suddenly theres a list of things needs doing or prices rise. I once had a guy tell me i needed 4 new tyres (the day after i bought the car i got a puncture) just one example.

ChuckLarry

It’s definetly on the high side price wise but not by that much, I got the front discs and pads done on a golf recently (not at a main dealer, similar type outfit to atlas) and it was €200.

So front and back let’s say 400 with maybe a bit of discount for getting them both done.

I know it’s seems expensive and can be a shock to hear but what I’ve usually done is split them up so got front done a few weeks ago and will get the back done in 2/3 months, saves paying a lump in one go. I know it’s too late for you now but something to keep in mind in future.

Advice would be to shop around and don’t agree straight away to the price, a lot of the smaller places are a bit flexible compared to main dealers so when they say X amount say ah no is that your best price, if you don’t ask they’ll be happy to take full whack, have a brass neck

wonski

Rear discs sometimes are more expensive anyway. So it's not like you can compare price of fronts with the back ones.

It really depends on the parts used. If all discs and pads are replaced I would add new brake fluid etc.

Then labour cost comes to it. Atlas definitely cheaper than the dealer, though.

bucketybuck

Forget the damn NCT, if your brake discs and pads are worn then they need replacing, regardless of the bloody NCT or not.

If you don't trust the diagnosis then get a 2nd opinion, but don't drive around with no brakes just because you are short of cash, they aren't just there for show after all.

khaldrogo

LizzeyBenett wrote:

Just quoted 500 from Athlas for this job , I nearly got sick on the phone as my car is due its NCT but I cant afford that I don't even have cash to hand if I wanted to get that job done, Is this a standard price ?? Its a Hyundai I30 132, has anyone found anywhere cheaper that did a good job ? Im based in Ballyfermot.

500 for parts and labour is pretty standard for Atlas, FirstStop, Advance etc tbh......the rear discs on i30s are expensive afair

tabby aspreme

What mileage/km's, is on the car

Stheno

LizzeyBenett wrote: »

I don't have a regular mechanic this is my problem I left it into Atlas and this is what they quoted me have a feeling if I shop around I may be able to get it cheaper ? But I do feel like some not all will see a woman coming and suddenly theres a list of things needs doing or prices rise. I once had a guy tell me i needed 4 new tyres (the day after i bought the car i got a puncture) just one example.

Do two things.

1. Get a regular mechanic who is recommended
2. Learn a little about cars and don't be afraid to ask for a breakdown of what the quote is, how long it will take in terms of labour etc

Atlas would have a tendency to recommend work that is not necessarily required at the time imo.

but if you're in Dublin nowhere is cheap unless you have a back-lane mechanic

but be honest with yourself - are the brakes working well / try an emergency stop (when safe). if not - get them done.

if you want to save money buy the parts on ebay and get a mechanic working for himself outside Dublin to put them in.

DaveyDave

I believe Atlas have a bit of a reputation for quoting extra work, they're one of the last places I'd bring a car. Find a good independent mechanic.

It's always wise to have a few hundred in the bank for repairs and servicing. Cars are expensive and you never know what can come up, new or used cars.

Mintoe

LizzeyBenett wrote: »

Just quoted 500 from Athlas for this job , I nearly got sick on the phone as my car is due its NCT but I cant afford that I don't even have cash to hand if I wanted to get that job done, Is this a standard price ?? Its a Hyundai I30 132, has anyone found anywhere cheaper that did a good job ? Im based in Ballyfermot.

Go to Cloverhill Autos in cherry orchard industrial estate.... paul is the owner, big chap grey hair... hugely competent and reputable and he uses good quality parts but shops around for the best price on good quality parts... def won’t rip you off either and you can trust what he tells you.... I used to sell him parts when I was rep for motor factors and he’s one of the best around your area

corks finest

Buy your parts on Mr auto.ie/ Mick's garage whenever ( as long as your car is safe to drive obviously) bring them to an independent mechanic- ring around/ do your homework,ask family/ friends their recommendations etc ,then stick loyally to the best you find,in the long run good for your car, pocket and yourself,find majority of independent mechanics deal mostly with regulars

Dr_Colossus

For reference, I changed the discs and pads on the rear of a Volvo S60 and paid €91.70 for Bosch parts from mister-auto.ie and fitted them myself.
Hyundai i30 parts don't look any more expensive as I see rear discs available for about €35 per corner with the fronts a bit more expensive depending on diameter. Input your reg and price up the parts (did Atlas quote what brand disc and pads they were going to use) to get an idea if you're being ripped off on labour and as to what you would expect to pay. €500 by the way sounds crazy and that's even if it needs discs. Why did you have the car in for a quote on discs and pads all round, unusual enough having to replace all four corners at once.

The NCT by the way is a farce and can't be relied upon. I input my car through the NCT after I'd changed the rear discs and pads and knowing that the front pads also needed replacing. It should have been an advisory but never mentioned and instead checked all over for a reason to fail so claimed the front indicator bulbs weren't orange enough. How's that for safety.

Del2005

LizzeyBenett wrote: »

I once had a guy tell me i needed 4 new tyres (the day after i bought the car i got a puncture) just one example.

How old was the car when you bought it, mileage and how much thread had the tyres?

bazz26

The NCT is far from being a farce. Some people's attitude and ignorance to vehicle roadworthiness and maintenance is just shocking and I'm glad the NCT catches a good proportion of these piece of $hit vehicles and force their owners to address them.

Stallingrad

Unless the car is something special €150-€200 per axle for pads and discs is normal at an Indy.

You can get a full set of discs and pads for that car for 150 quid online and someone could fit discs and pads all round in their driveway in under an hour, dunno where these garage's get these quotes

colm_mcm

Kimber Shaggy Vent wrote: »

You can get a full set of discs and pads for that car for 150 quid online and someone could fit discs and pads all round in their driveway in under an hour, dunno where these garage's get these quotes

Can you get the number of the lad who’ll do 4 discs and pads in a driveway in under an hour?

kadman

In all fairness some garages that see a woman drive in for a quote,

see a lamb to the slaughter.

Get a knowledgeable family member to drop in for a quote.

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can you get the number of the lad who’ll do 4 discs and pads in a driveway in under an hour?

Myself, if you have an impact gun and a hydraulic trolley jack it wouldnt take more than 10 -15 mins a wheel

antodeco

I wouldn't call €500 far excessive if I'm being honest. Probably could get them done for €100 less I'd say.

If you want the name of an independent mechanic in Ballyfermot (just beside the Garda station), let me know. I use him for all my daily drives.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

LizzeyBenett wrote: »

Both unfortunetley tempted to let it go through nct and see what they say

Seriously, is your only worry the NCT?

For €500 you will get all the tools and parts to do it yourself and you will have money left over. Pads and discs are not very difficult to do and you can find lots of tutorials on youtube

It's not normal for front and rear brakes to go at the same time as the front brakes do most of the work. Can you remember the last time you got the brakes changed? Did you get only the front ones?

Is there any noise or vibrations when you are braking?

I would suggest that you get the pads changed regularly (not when they are at their minimum), even if "they have plenty of miles left on them sure". They are not expensive and can save you the cost of changing the rotors/disks too.

AuldDaysul

Kimber Shaggy Vent wrote: »

Myself, if you have an impact gun and a hydraulic trolley jack it wouldnt take more than 10 -15 mins a wheel

Ferrari F1 could use a man like you... Make sure you bring your impact gun and hydraulic trolley jack

sunnysoutheast

LizzeyBenett wrote: »

I don't have a regular mechanic this is my problem I left it into Atlas and this is what they quoted me have a feeling if I shop around I may be able to get it cheaper ? But I do feel like some not all will see a woman coming and suddenly theres a list of things needs doing or prices rise. I once had a guy tell me i needed 4 new tyres (the day after i bought the car i got a puncture) just one example.

Did it need tyres?

AuldDaysul

AuldDaysul wrote: »

Ferrari F1 could use a man like you... Make sure you bring your impact gun and hydraulic trolley jack

What exact takes so long? 5 bolts or so on the disc and 2 on the caliper. It's an extremely simple job

Price isn't far off main dealer prices....this online quote is for a 151 Kia ceed....similar to an i30 iirc

I'd not pay Atlas that much to do it and as others have mentioned I'd not be surprised if the rear discs in particular aren't in need of replacement..

Guy:Incognito

Kimber Shaggy Vent wrote: »

What exact takes so long? 5 bolts or so on the disc and 2 on the caliper. It's an extremely simple job

You might want to take the wheels off first.............

Blueshoe

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You might want to take the wheels off first.............

Probably need to remove , clean and grease the pins too. Replace the retaining pads and push back the pistons. Check the fluid and if there is time maybe go for a spin to check everything is working. If not sure itl be grand.

Regulation in the motor trade can't come quick enough

sunnysoutheast

Blueshoe wrote: »

Probably need to remove , clean and grease the pins too. Replace the retaining pads and push back the pistons. Check the fluid and if there is time maybe go for a spin to check everything is working. If not sure itl be grand.

Regulation in the motor trade can't come quick enough

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see insurance conditions in future that stipulate the car has to be serviced by a "competent" garage, with receipts to prove it.

I used to service my own cars, but not since the early 90s. I mean who has the time now.

PCeeeee

sunnysoutheast wrote: »

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see insurance conditions in future that stipulate the car has to be serviced by a "competent" garage, with receipts to prove it.

I used to service my own cars, but not since the early 90s. I mean who has the time now.

Me

Blueshoe

sunnysoutheast wrote: »

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see insurance conditions in future that stipulate the car has to be serviced by a "competent" garage, with receipts to prove it.

I used to service my own cars, but not since the early 90s. I mean who has the time now.

Only a matter of time before it's introduced. People should have to have obtained the qualifications to repair vehicles.

PCeeeee

Blueshoe wrote: »

Only a matter of time before it's introduced. People should have to have obtained the qualifications to repair vehicles.

To what end? Is there an issue with 'unqualified' people maintaining cars?

Blueshoe

PCeeeee wrote: »

To what end? Is there an issue with 'unqualified' people maintaining cars?

The entire trade should be regulated. Only those trained and qualified should be allowed to carry out repairs.
I'd like to see insurance companies getting involved in this and making it mandatory to cover. Not sure how it would be implemented though or if it even can

Del2005

Kimber Shaggy Vent wrote: »

You can get a full set of discs and pads for that car for 150 quid online and someone could fit discs and pads all round in their driveway in under an hour, dunno where these garage's get these quotes

Will these people have insurance, rates, tax etc. It's easy for someone not paying these to undercut companies operating legally.

PCeeeee

Blueshoe wrote: »

The entire trade should be regulated. Only those trained and qualified should be allowed to carry out repairs.
I'd like to see insurance companies getting involved in this and making it mandatory to cover. Not sure how it would be implemented though or if it even can

Again, to what end? What is the issue with the status quo?

Blueshoe

PCeeeee wrote: »

Again, to what end? What is the issue with the status quo?

Like working on a gas boiler. It's not safe

PCeeeee

Blueshoe wrote: »

Like working on a gas boiler. It's not safe

Can you point out how? What are the statistics in terms of mechanical fault in vehicles causing accidents?

PCeeeee

I'll save you the time.

Vehicle only 0.20%

Garda opinion 2007-2012, https://www.tii.ie/tii-library/road-safety/Road%20Safety%20Research/Collision-Contributory-Factors.pdf

I do not not suppose the situation has deteriorated, on the contrary.

_blaaz

Blueshoe wrote: »

The entire trade should be regulated. Only those trained and qualified should be allowed to carry out repairs.
I'd like to see insurance companies getting involved in this and making it mandatory to cover. Not sure how it would be implemented though or if it even can

But who gets to do what...theres 5 similar but different trades in one


Car mechanic,LGV,HGV,agri mechanic and plant fitting....pretty sure SIMI oversee all these

PsychoPete

I do enjoy reading the replies to these threads. Ring around a few garages for quotes, if you find one your happy with then book it in and job done

TheBoyConor

Don't mind what any mechanic tells you that your car needs. And definitely don't waste your time on pre nct checks. They only looking to drum up business. Unless your brakes are squealing badly or grinding they are not in immediate need of replacement.

Just throw it through the nct and let that tell you what u need. No point replacing parts for the craic when they could call well get a pass at the nct.

Car99

Doesn't the i30 have brake pad wear indicator light on the dash? As for brake discs its easy measure remaining thickness to see if its within recommended limits.

JustJoe7240

Blueshoe wrote: »

Like working on a gas boiler. It's not safe

Speak for yourself there chief, Have carried out major repairs to a range of vehicles, I can guarantee you I'm far more competent than any first year apprentice who'd be let loose in a main dealer.

Toyotafanboi

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

Speak for yourself there chief, Have carried out major repairs to a range of vehicles, I can guarantee you I'm far more competent than any first year apprentice who'd be let loose in a main dealer.

Are you more competent than a qualified technician?

You'd be much more likely to find a 1st year apprentice working solo in an independent workshop that a main dealer. Apprentices have to learn through working, let's not act like that's a secret but all a first year will be doing is swapping bulbs and wipers and cleaning floors.

Blueshoe

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

Speak for yourself there chief, Have carried out major repairs to a range of vehicles, I can guarantee you I'm far more competent than any first year apprentice who'd be let loose in a main dealer.

First year apprentices work is checked by a qualified mechanic before it leaves the workshop.

But the first years only change bulbs or wipers and spend most of the day watching or washing cars.
A third year perhaps.

I'm not doubting your abilities at all. Im sure you are perfectly capable of doing repairs. I'm confident I can repair a gas boiler but I'm not allowed to as I don't have the paper qualifications.

The motor trade should be similar

bucketybuck

The only time our 1st years are let loose is when going for breakfast rolls.

I've seen smaller garages where if the owner has to go out then you end up with some young kid left alone in the place to work away with no supervision whatsoever. They will also be left to do lots of jobs without direct supervision, whereas in any main dealer a 1st year apprentice won't do anything much more than fit number plates on their own, everything else is clocked on with a senior mechanic.

Doesn't matter though, there is always some gombeen repeating the myth that everything in a main dealer was done by apprentices.

Guy:Incognito

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Don't mind what any mechanic tells you that your car needs. And definitely don't waste your time on pre nct checks. They only looking to drum up business. Unless your brakes are squealing badly or grinding they are not in immediate need of replacement.

Just throw it through the nct and let that tell you what u need. No point replacing parts for the craic when they could call well get a pass at the nct.

Yeah, **** preventative maintenance, bare minimum for the nct is all any car needs. :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

I can guarantee you I'm far more competent than any first year apprentice who'd be let loose in a main dealer.

Ah, it's been a while since this one was rolled out.

All dealers are only staffed by 1st years and the odd qualified lad who just drinks tea all day.

Plus, everyone knows self thought is best thought. It's why so many people on the roads are great drivers that spot their own mistakes and correct them.......