Cathoilc church USA scandal state DA going to use RICO laws

the culture of deference

Michigan Attorney General is considering using state racketeering laws usually reserved for organized crime to investigte the RCC.


The church needs to be immediately removed from education, medicine and goverment policy.




20 state and federal prosecutors are looking for legal means to hold higher ups in the church accountable for sex abuse.



As usual defenders of the church bristle at the notion of increased legal action, saying the Catholic institution is being singled out by overzealous prosecutors.


They have raided diocesan offices, subpoenaed files, and discovered millions of records from Michigan to New Mexico on clergy sex abuse. Victim tip lines have launched sweeping investigations into decades-old allegations. Thousands of people have called hotlines nationwide.


They’re looking to prosecute, and not just priests. If the boxes lining the hallways of Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s offices contain enough evidence, she said, she is considering using state racketeering laws usually reserved for organized crime.


For decades, leaders of the Roman Catholic Church were largely left to police their own. But now, as American bishops gather for a conference to confront the reignited sex-abuse crisis this week, they’re facing the most scrutiny ever from secular law enforcement.


https://www.apnews.com/a9a988465ae944bd8dbd5094ebd562ad


investigations underway by attorneys general in at least 15 states, several legislatures have approved statute-of-limitation revisions this year giving victims of long-ago child sex-abuse new windows for litigation against the Catholic church
Current states investigating sexual abuse claims against the Catholic Church

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/states-investigating-catholic-church-sexual-abuse-claims/

What has this got to do with Ireland?

padd b1975

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What has this got to do with Ireland?

OP is a very angry individual when it comes to the Catholic Church.

Pay no heed.

Atoms for Peace

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What has this got to do with Ireland?

As a nation of pious Catholics we should be concerned that those filthy yankee wasps are trying to bismirch the reputation of the one true and holy Catholic church. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sonics2k

Deleted User wrote: »

What has this got to do with Ireland?

Considering the past and present influence the Vatican has over Ireland, I'd say it's something worth discussing.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

What has this got to do with Ireland?

Are we only allowed to discuss stories directly related to ireland?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

As a nation of pious Catholics we should be concerned that those filthy yankee wasps are trying to bismirch the reputation of the one true and holy Catholic church.

They always hated us over there. Godless country.

Gatling

Sonics2k wrote: »

Considering the past and present influence the Vatican has over Ireland, I'd say it's something worth discussing.

Nothing would come of it ,

We would get the whole let's get the church rabble , meanwhile the same anti church rabble demanding schools put on communions and confirmations for their little Mary and Johnny

the culture of deference

padd b1975 wrote: »

OP is a very angry individual when it comes to the Catholic Church.

Pay no heed.

Yes the organisation that is in charge of children's education in Ireland has never harmed anyone.



pay no heed, head back under the covers,






Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)



is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States.

SEPT 23 1989

CAB should have gone after the slave laundry money and seized everything over here

But a FF minister did a deal with his own kind and that was it

malinheader

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

CAB should have gone after the slave laundry money and seized everything over here

But a FF minister did a deal with his own kind and that was it

Nothing new there then. That's how things are usually done in this country.

SEPT 23 1989

malinheader wrote: »

Nothing new there then. That's how things are usually done in this country.

A conflict of interest to put it mildly

Fr_Dougal

ILoveYourVibes

padd b1975 wrote: »

OP is a very angry individual when it comes to the Catholic Church.

Pay no heed.

People here may follow this lead.

Also any funding loss to the CC worldwide will affect the CC everywhere.

ILoveYourVibes

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

CAB should have gone after the slave laundry money and seized everything over here

But a FF minister did a deal with his own kind and that was it

You took the words out of my mouth.

suicide_circus

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

CAB should have gone after the slave laundry money and seized everything over here

But a FF minister did a deal with his own kind and that was it

fair point but where did they get these slaves? their families handed them over in most cases. grim.

jmayo

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

As a nation of pious Catholics we should be concerned that those filthy yankee wasps are trying to bismirch the reputation of the one true and holy Catholic church.

nation of Pious catholics ???

Me thinks it's time to get back in that DeLorean of yours and dial in 1979.

As regards The States they are doing the right thing much like Canada did with that awful organisation, the christian brothers.
Take the money off the feckers.

OU812

suicide_circus wrote: »

fair point but where did they get these slaves? their families handed them over in most cases. grim.

Most likely under influence of the church. That's the grim part. The stranglehold that organisation had on this country was ridiculous. Unfortunately there's still parts it has a death grip on.

//I know there's good people in it, but its too corrupt to continue.

caff

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What has this got to do with Ireland?

Wonder if they use racketeering laws and proved links between the US Church and Ireland would they be able to freeze Bank accounts of religious orders in Ireland.

suicide_circus

OU812 wrote: »

Most likely under influence of the church. That's the grim part. The stranglehold that organisation had on this country was ridiculous. Unfortunately there's still parts it has a death grip on.

//I know there's good people in it, but its too corrupt to continue.

i just dont think we'll exorcise the national demon by blaming the church or the state. both bodies were made up of irish people. there are issues there as yet unexamined.

kneemos

suicide_circus wrote: »

fair point but where did they get these slaves? their families handed them over in most cases. grim.

That really doesn't absolve them in any way.

SEPT 23 1989

caff wrote: »

Wonder if they use racketeering laws and proved links between the US Church and Ireland would they be able to freeze Bank accounts of religious orders in Ireland.

They sold Irish children stolen from their mothers to Americans

Could be one one line of enquiry

We only seem to act when we are shamed into it by outsiders