Munroe Bergdorf dropped by the NSPCC

Dante7

Last week the prominent transgender celebrity Munroe Bergdorf was appointed as a childline ambassador by the NSPCC. There was an outcry, mainly by feminist groups that this was inappropriate due to Bergdorf's history of encouraging children to contact "her" privately if their parents weren't supportive. This goes against all safeguarding guidelines. There were also other issues regarding racist and homophobic tweets posted by Bergdorf.

The NSPCC reviewed this and decided that Bergdorf was not an appropriate ambassador for their Childline service and rescinded the role. Cue the outrage from the woke bros on Twitter who tried to paint this as transphobia. The Guardian, BBC, Owen Jones and several other prominent right-on dudes posted that this was a disgrace, while completely ignoring the concerns that were highlighted.

Then today it emerged that the NSPCC official who hired Bergdorf may also not be an ideal person to be working for a children's charity. He posted publicly videos and photos of himself dressed in gimp and rubber suits. Again, the woke bros swarmed Twitter to defend him, saying that what he did in private was his own business and any criticism was blatant homophobia.

Until a couple of hours ago when screenshots emerged of him dressed in rubber under his work clothes boasting about him masturbating in the toilets of his employer - the NSPCC. The woke bros have since gone very quiet.

https://twitter.com/BurgessWave/status/1138913878409142276?s=19

A Childline ambassador? Good grief. Some cognitive dissonance trying to justify that one.

i eagerly await the 'phobe accusations against you

McDermotX

Sooner we get off this planet the better.

_blaaz

Wtf deos woke mean?

mad muffin

The guy should have left this to after work hours and away from kids.

BUT NOOOOO. HE HAD TO BE A DEPRAVED FÜCKER…

Dante7

[Deleted User] wrote: »

i eagerly await the 'phobe accusations against you

I am not transphobic, I am gender critical. I just don't buy into this non-scientific nonsense. And I most certainly am not homophobic. I would have huge concerns about anyone involved in child protection posting kink videos online, regardless of their sexuality. What is very worrying is the amount of people who try to defend this.

TheValeyard

_blaaz wrote: »

Wtf deos woke mean?

Its a stupid word in the current trendy meaning.

The only woke I will use, will be, "I woke up early this morning".

Paddy Cow

How many positions is this that she has lost? She was dropped by L'Oreal (guess she's not worth it ) and she had something with the Labour Party which didn't work out. There maybe others. I don't really give her much attention. She's a gobsh!te.

Dante7

_blaaz wrote: »

Wtf deos woke mean?

You know what it means. How about you comment and address the substantive issues in my post instead of trying to deflect. Do you think it is appropriate for someone to encourage children to contact a stranger on the internet behind their parent's back and do you think it is appropriate for a high ranking official of the NSPCC to post publicly viewable photos and videos of their kink lifestyle?

Danzy

Munroe is one ****ed up poisonous piece of work.

I've no problem with Trans people, I have a problem with poisonous nasty ****ers though, that stuff is all between the ears not about gender, sexuality etc.

Danzy

McDermotX wrote: »

Sooner we get off this planet the better.

It means your bank balance is rising and shining.

Your Face

I find the whole mindless defense of this type of thing worrying.

Its like a cult.

Sweetemotion

Dante7 wrote: »

The woke bros have since gone very quiet.

Should be interesting to see how quite this thread gets.

_blaaz

Dante7 wrote: »

You know what it means. How about you comment and address the substantive issues in my post instead of trying to deflect. Do you think it is appropriate for someone to encourage children to contact a stranger on the internet behind their parent's back and do you think it is appropriate for a high ranking official of the NSPCC to post publicly viewable photos and videos of their kink lifestyle?

I dont know what it means,i seen it said online...but googling it,just leads to confusion!


Nah...fcuk that..kids should contact childline for trained profesiomals


As for the high ranking person posting pics of strange sh1te,dont see the harm tbh,so long as its legal and on a personal page and not the company facebook page like..what harm??

Bobblehats

Dante7 wrote: »

Last week the prominent transgender celebrity Munroe Bergdorf was appointed as a childline ambassador by the NSPCC.

It’s names like that alone that really should be enough to dissuade multiisms. A catastrophic clusterfùck of no particular abode

banie01

_blaaz wrote: »

I dont know what it means,i seen it said online...but googling it,just leads to confusion!


Nah...fcuk that..kids should contact childline for trained profesiomals


As for the high ranking person posting pics of strange sh1te,dont see the harm tbh,so long as its legal and on a personal page and not the company facebook page like..what harm??

If you worked for a charity dedicated to child protection, and posted a pic of you in your fetish wear to your personal page...
Boasting about the sexually risqué behaviour you just indulged in at your place of employment?

You really don't see the harm?
The risk of reputational damage?

Pawwed Rig

Dante7 wrote: »

Do you think it is appropriate for someone to encourage children to contact a stranger on the internet behind their parent's back?

Does that not essentially describe child line?

Danzy

Your Face wrote: »

I find the whole mindless defense of this type of thing worrying.

Its like a cult.

It is a cult, from the repetitive chanting on the street, hunting out sinners especially Internal enemies, fighting the forces of evil, the certainty of righteousness.

The people who joined the Christian Brothers years ago are now activists.

That isn't a flippant comment, they are the same.

Bobblehats

Indeed it seems the loopier the name the bigger the looper

Still waters

So she's a he when s/he does something wrong

_blaaz

banie01 wrote: »

If you worked for a charity dedicated to child protection, and posted a pic of you in your fetish wear to your personal page...
Boasting about the sexually risqué behaviour you just indulged in at your place of employment?

You really don't see the harm?
The risk of reputational damage?

I can the reputational damage (i wouldnt do it like)...but not the harm

So long as no law been broken and noone hurt...what harm??

Its a personal page,and so long as not linked to company page or affecting their ability to do their job or the company,each to their own......


i used see some oddball.sh1t on social media back in the day....where do you draw the line of lads messing doing retarded crap online and sacking em

ceadaoin.

_blaaz wrote: »

I dont know what it means,i seen it said online...but googling it,just leads to confusion!


Nah...fcuk that..kids should contact childline for trained profesiomals


As for the high ranking person posting pics of strange sh1te,dont see the harm tbh,so long as its legal and on a personal page and not the company facebook page like..what harm??

Yeah he can do what he wants in his free time but filming himself pissing and **** in the work toilet and posting it where it's easy to find really isn't ok. it's highly inappropriate for any workplace and especially one that is the official child protection charity of the UK. The fetish stuff was linked to on his professional LinkedIn page btw. It seems there was no separation of his work and sexual life here. It's pretty bad.

Dante7

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Does that not essentially describe child line?

No. Encouraging children to contact a stranger online goes against all safeguarding guidelines. Bergdorf advocated this in their role as a trans celebrity. When confronted about this Bergdorf doubled down and insisted it was fine. It most certainly was not. Do you not see the problem with this?

_blaaz

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The fetish stuff was linked to on his professional LinkedIn page btw. It seems there was no separation of his work and sexual life here. It's pretty bad.

Jesus
How deos someone this dumb get that high up a job?

Danzy

I've no problem with what he does in private but celebrating pissing everywhere and **** in the toilet of your children's charity is all k8nds of ****ed up.

Danzy

_blaaz wrote: »

Jesus
How deos someone this dumb get that high up a job?

It isn't a barrier.

Beechwoodspark

Doubt they’ll ever recover from this. Close down the charity full stop

Bobblehats

What kind of upbringing might a Munroe Bergdorf have had anyway. A Jussie Smollet and all

padd b1975

Bobblehats wrote: »

It’s names like that alone that really should be enough to dissuade multiisms. A catastrophic clusterfùck of no particular abode

It reminds me of the characters that write to the letters page in Viz magazine.

Bobblehats

padd b1975 wrote: »

It reminds me of the characters that write to the letters page in Viz magazine.

If I ever have kids I will call them Ann and Barry. Don’t want them grow up to be tapped

Dante7

_blaaz wrote: »

Jesus
How deos someone this dumb get that high up a job?

This is the next line of defence for people who defend this - they were dumb to not hide this. It is all very reminiscent of PIE, the paedophile defence group who tried to infiltrate the LGB movement in the 80's.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

Why is the NSPCC Twitter page rainbow coloured?

Dante7

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Why is the NSPCC Twitter page rainbow coloured?

Because employing perverts who dress in rubber and **** on their premises is all inclusive.

Ulysses Gaze

Much like men that constantly, and loudly, call themselves male feminists, I don't trust anyone that continually refers to themselves as "woke" or a "woke bae".

Dante7

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Much like men that constantly, and loudly, call themselves male feminists, I don't trust anyone that continually refers to themselves as "woke" or a "woke bae".

Woke in the tweets, pervert between the sheets.

RWCNT

Dante7 wrote: »

Last week the prominent transgender celebrity Munroe Bergdorf was appointed as a childline ambassador by the NSPCC. There was an outcry, mainly by feminist groups that this was inappropriate due to Bergdorf's history of encouraging children to contact "her" privately if their parents weren't supportive. This goes against all safeguarding guidelines. There were also other issues regarding racist and homophobic tweets posted by Bergdorf.

The NSPCC reviewed this and decided that Bergdorf was not an appropriate ambassador for their Childline service and rescinded the role. Cue the outrage from the woke bros on Twitter who tried to paint this as transphobia. The Guardian, BBC, Owen Jones and several other prominent right-on dudes posted that this was a disgrace, while completely ignoring the concerns that were highlighted.

I can't see any evidence of that being the main reason for people being against her appointment, the only reference to that I can find is a single sentence from a letter to the NSPCC from some crowd called "Safe Schools" - https://twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1137060370361782272

This organisation doesn't seem to be legit though, it's online presence is less than a week old and appears to have been created for this sole purpose. It's not beyond the realms that this person/people have a problem with trans folk - the line about "social contagion" in that letter certainly didn't sound great. Another prominent critic of the appointment, journalist Janice Turner - who supposedly takes issue with Munro having posed for Playboy - has also been criticised for writing inflammatory pieces about trans people in the past.

I think it's quite possible these people are motivated by transphobia and that's likely what the "woke bros of twitter" are referring to. Of course, what constitutes transphobia is hotly debated at the minute - as evidenced by plenty of threads on here.

I would have thought the same comments that got her kicked from L'Oreal would preclude her from taking a role like this and Im surprised that they weren't the focal point of the complaints.

Gimme A Pound

Bullying pieces of sh1t on Twitter. More concerned with the dismissal of Bergdorf than protection of children. I don't think Bergdorf is automatically a risk to children but if she breached the guidelines, she breached the guidelines. And she published racist and homophobic tweets? I'd have to see these but wouldn't folk like Owen Jones take issue with this surely?

And the other person - yeah I don't think that photo proves he's a threat to children either, but what the fuq was he doing publishing it at the time? Idiocy. And so tasteless.

Dante7

RWCNT wrote: »

I can't see any evidence of that being the main reason for people being against her appointment, the only reference to that I can find is a single sentence from a letter to the NSPCC from some crowd called "Safe Schools" - https://twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1137060370361782272

This organisation doesn't seem to be legit though, it's online presence is less than a week old and appears to have been created for this sole purpose. It's not beyond the realms that this person/people have a problem with trans folk - the line about "social contagion" in that letter certainly didn't sound great. Another prominent critic of the appointment, journalist Janice Turner - who supposedly takes issue with Munro having posed for Playboy - has also been criticised for writing inflammatory pieces about trans people in the past.

I think it's quite possible these people are motivated by transphobia and that's likely what the "woke bros of twitter" are referring to. Of course, what constitutes transphobia is hotly debated at the minute - as evidenced by plenty of threads on here.

I would have thought the same comments that got her kicked from L'Oreal would preclude her from taking a role like this and Im surprised that they weren't the focal point of the complaints.

Bergdorf absolutely did encourage children to contact her privately against all child safeguarding guidelines. Bergdorf also posted racist and homophobic content and posed for Playboy. Do you dispute this? Do you think that Bergdorf is an an appropriate ambassador for childline? Do you also think it is appropriate for an official employed by the NSPCC to publicly post videos of himself **** in the NSPCC toulets while dressed in rubber? Give your head a wobble and cop on.

RWCNT

Dante7 wrote: »

Bergdorf absolutely did encourage children to contact her privately against all child safeguarding guidelines. Bergdorf also posted racist and homophobic content and posed for Playboy. Do you dispute this? Do you think that Bergdorf is an an appropriate ambassador for childline? Do you also think it is appropriate for an official employed by the NSPCC to publicly post videos of himself **** in the NSPCC toulets while dressed in rubber? Give your head a wobble and cop on.

I never said she didn't do those things, what exactly do I have to "give my head a wobble and cop on" for?

As for your questions -

1) I won't dispute those things, although I havn't personally seen anything homophobic she's posted and I can't find anything from a quick skim of google. So, if I must dispute something, maybe that. Happy?

2) I wouldn't have thought so, like I said before, I would have thought her previous controversial comments on race probably would have precluded her. Did you miss that bit?

3) LOL - no, but thanks for asking. Jesus christ, that bloke must want the ground to open and swallow him.

Jurgen Klopp

She was sacked by L' Oreal for gems like

Honestly I don’t have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people”.

She added: “Once white people begin to admit that their race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on Earth… then we can talk”.

L’Oreal fired her and in a statement said the company “supports diversity and tolerance towards all people”.

She also said the suffragettes were “white supremacists” who wanted to deny black people the vote, and described gay Tories as “a special kind of d**khead”.

She later tried to play down her rant, saying it was taken out of context.

Munroe said she was referring to “the fact that western society as a whole is a system rooted in white supremacy – designed to benefit, prioritise and protect white people before anyone of any other race”/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/5684670/munroe-bergdorf-transgender-model-sacked-loreal-racism-lgbt-adviser-labour/amp/

Fr Tod Umptious

Dante7 wrote: »

Bergdorf absolutely did encourage children to contact her privately against all child safeguarding guidelines. Bergdorf also posted racist and homophobic content and posed for Playboy. Do you dispute this? Do you think that Bergdorf is an an appropriate ambassador for childline? Do you also think it is appropriate for an official employed by the NSPCC to publicly post videos of himself **** in the NSPCC toulets while dressed in rubber? Give your head a wobble and cop on.

Some people try so hard to be open minded that their brains actually fall out.

Pawwed Rig

Dante7 wrote: »

No. Encouraging children to contact a stranger online goes against all safeguarding guidelines. Bergdorf advocated this in their role as a trans celebrity.

That is true but as in the case of childline it depends on the stranger. Never heard of this guy btw so have no idea if it would be good or bad to reach out to him but in a general sense if they are vetted strangers there seems to be no issue.
How children or meant to know this is anyone's guess.

Autecher

Chandler Moldy Rationalism wrote: »

And she published racist and homophobic tweets? I'd have to see these but wouldn't folk like Owen Jones take issue with this surely?

These are the ones that seem to be the most talked about,. The pic I uploaded is quotes from arguments she has had online with people. More in the linked tweet.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bettytastic/status/1138738868528848897

TuringBot47

They should've been a spokesperson for mental health issues not child abuse.

Paddy Cow

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

She was sacked by L' Oreal for gems like

Honestly I don’t have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people”.

She added: “Once white people begin to admit that their race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on Earth… then we can talk”.

L’Oreal fired her and in a statement said the company “supports diversity and tolerance towards all people”.

She also said the suffragettes were “white supremacists” who wanted to deny black people the vote, and described gay Tories as “a special kind of d**khead”.

She later tried to play down her rant, saying it was taken out of context.

Munroe said she was referring to “the fact that western society as a whole is a system rooted in white supremacy – designed to benefit, prioritise and protect white people before anyone of any other race”/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/5684670/munroe-bergdorf-transgender-model-sacked-loreal-racism-lgbt-adviser-labour/amp/

She tried to backtrack and say she meant white people are racist because of socialisation.

take everything

Autecher wrote: »

These are the ones that seem to be the most talked about,. The pic I uploaded is quotes from arguments she has had online with people. More in the linked tweet.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bettytastic/status/1138738868528848897

And people call Donald Trump homophobic.
This NSPCC dingbat is the face of homophobia and racism.

Not the likes of Donald Trump.

And people (the ones not looking the other way, that is) equivocating over the other guy **** in rubber and posting it online. This is a guy meant to be looking after kids' welfare.

As someone above said, the world is getting more and more ****ed up every day.

FTA69

She’s a horrible screeching mess off her head on campus liberalism and American call out culture.

They can all go in the f*cking bin. Back in the 1960s the Black Panthers realised racism was rooted in class society and that they could work with all working class people in the overthrow of capitalism.

They had a better analysis of the situation 50 years ago than these f*cking twats have today. Honest to God. The Labour Party and unions used to be the vehicles of the working class, now everywhere I look there’s some spoilt graduate jumping up and down about nonsense.

F*ck off. I wish Bob Crow was still alive.

Cryptopagan

FTA69 wrote: »

She’s a horrible screeching mess off her head on campus liberalism and American call out culture.

They can all go in the f*cking bin. Back in the 1960s the Black Panthers realised racism was rooted in class society and that they could work with all working class people in the overthrow of capitalism.

They had a better analysis of the situation 50 years ago than these f*cking twats have today. Honest to God. The Labour Party and unions used to be the vehicles of the working class, now everywhere I look there’s some spoilt graduate jumping up and down about nonsense.

F*ck off. I wish Bob Crow was still alive.

Cool, we’ll just tell young people suffering with gender dysphoria that they’ll feel better after capitalism is overthrown.

FTA69

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Cool, we’ll just tell young people suffering with gender dysphoria that they’ll feel better after capitalism is overthrown.

Do you know what we shouldn’t do? Tell vulnerable young people to go randomly contacting untrained and unvetted adults and entrust them with secrets. That’s dangerous and goes against all child-Protection protocol by the way.

Bergdorf literally can’t open her mouth without coming out with piles of b*llocks and having her a poster girl for the left does us tremendous amounts of damage.

Cryptopagan

FTA69 wrote: »

Do you know what we shouldn’t do? Tell vulnerable young people to go randomly contacting untrained and unvetted adults and entrust them with secrets. That’s dangerous and goes against all child-Protection protocol by the way.

Bergdorf literally can’t open her mouth without coming out with piles of b*llocks and having her a poster girl for the left does us tremendous amounts of damage.

That wasn’t the point you were making a moment ago, which was something about how the left needs to double down on the idea that revolution will deliver us to a socialist utopia where problems like gender dysphoria and transphobia will melt into air.

I don’t know anything about Bergdorf really, and her previous interventions sound very naive at best, but someone with her background and experiences definitely has something to contribute to understanding what young people with gender dysphoria are going through.