Why women have breasts!

ILoveYourVibes

MY BREASTS ARE A LIE!

Fr_Dougal

LOUD NOISES!

mad muffin

So there’s something for men to look at when talking to women… obviously, duh!

punisher5112

My biggest question is why do men!!!! And especially why do they have nipples.

myshirt

They only call it a waist because you could have easily fit another pair in.

suicide_circus

motorboating

ILoveYourVibes

mad muffin wrote: »

So there’s something for men to look at when talking to women… obviously, duh!

Yeah that's why ...nothing to see here ..don't believe the man saying breasts would lie ....would these lie to you??

ILoveYourVibes

punisher5112 wrote: »

My biggest question is why do men!!!! And especially why do they have nipples.

All fetuses are originally female a hormone is released to make them male. Nipples are left over from before that in the womb.

punisher5112

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

All fetuses are originally female a hormone is released to make them male. Nipples are left over from before that in the womb.

But why....

punisher5112

I can spell boob, boobs and boobies on my calculator....

ILoveYourVibes

I need to use more push up bras to exploit this!

punisher5112

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I need to use more push up bras to exploit this!

Careful you could take someone's eyes out....

ILoveYourVibes

punisher5112 wrote: »

But why....

Its to do with Y chromosome expression.

Women are xx ...fetuses with xy WILL be male but start out phenotypically female

Women can only give a x ..men can give either x or y ...

Baby boys recieve a testis signal at ten weeks its stops them developing ovaries and starts the testis and other male stuff happening

Not sure if this is true ..but i heard it had something to do with fetal hemophilia at one point. I could be remembering that wrong though.

ILoveYourVibes

punisher5112 wrote: »

Careful you could take someone's eyes out....

No ...they better be careful

:cool:

IM THE FASTEST DRAW IN THE WEST!

Cee-Jay-Cee

Breasts are beautiful things and should not be hidden away under bras and clothing, they should be exposed and in full view of all except for ugly or fat women, theirs should be hidden at all times.

Car99

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Breasts are beautiful things and should not be hidden away under bras and clothing, they should be exposed and in full view of all except for ugly or fat women, theirs should be hidden at all times.

In your opinion. What's fat and ugly to you may be appealing to others.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Car99 wrote: »

In your opinion. What's fat and ugly to you may be appealing to others.

If you like fat and ugly women good for you as you have a plentiful supply!

ILoveYourVibes

Stop fighting don't make me unhook em in this thread!

Plopsu

More importantly, why is the guy in the video dressed like that??

Day Lewin

Women have breasts for feeding babies. That's what they are FOR.

Men like looking at them because they are a sign of sexual maturity - eg, until puberty, both boys and girls have only little flat buttons.
Oestrogens make boobs grow bigger.

Also, they may represent the potential for successful reproduction - "These large breasts will make more milk for your offspring, so, your genes will survive"...simple Darwinian stuff.

ohnonotgmail

Day Lewin wrote: »

Women have breasts for feeding babies. That's what they are FOR.

Men like looking at them because they are a sign of sexual maturity - eg, until puberty, both boys and girls have only little flat buttons.
Oestrogens make boobs grow bigger.

Also, they may represent the potential for successful reproduction - "These large breasts will make more milk for your offspring, so, your genes will survive"...simple Darwinian stuff.

larger breasts dont produce more milk. Breast size is irrelevant to milk production.

Grayson

punisher5112 wrote: »

But why....

Because genetics. It's easier to carry one gene for both genders rather than two.

Cordell

punisher5112 wrote: »

But why....

We are how we are because of a chain of random genetic mutations that happen to give an advantage over those who didn't have them. Not necessarily because they were 100% better, but better in some regards. Mammals are better than non-mammals because they can produce food for their offspring, and the fact that both males and females have some kind of breasts/nipples is just a side effect.

Or, the simple version, because God made us that way.

Former Observer

Don't forget that many men have breasts. I see them everyday. Fat blokes with perfect little titties jiggling around beneath their Star Wars t shirts.

fergus1001

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

larger breasts dont produce more milk. Breast size is irrelevant to milk production.

thats fake news and you know it !

Wibbs

Day Lewin wrote: »

Women have breasts for feeding babies. That's what they are FOR.

Men like looking at them because they are a sign of sexual maturity - eg, until puberty, both boys and girls have only little flat buttons.
Oestrogens make boobs grow bigger.

Also, they may represent the potential for successful reproduction - "These large breasts will make more milk for your offspring, so, your genes will survive"...simple Darwinian stuff.

Not quite. As ohnonotgmail notes breast size has little to do with milk production. Well that's not quite true. Flat chested two fried eggs on an ironing board is no great shakes at milk production and it can naturally vary between women anyway. Hence one reason for the historical need for wet nurses in pretty much all cultures.

Men looking at them as signs of sexual maturity isn't an answer either. It could be a chicken and egg thing. It's highly likely to be a sexual trait as humans are unique among mammals for having permanently full breasts. Indeed to any of our great ape cousins full breasts are a turn off. Why? Because it says that the female is nursing and sub fertile while doing so. To a chimp flat chests would be Page 3 material. At some point in our evolution this was switched. Being bipedal our frontal aspect becomes more in play for a start. Secondly as our brains got bigger and childhood and child rearing became longer and longer in time, pair bonding became much more a thing, so it's possible permanently full breasts and a lack of obvious oestrus(another major change in humans) made males more likely to stick around for longer. A chimp male knows when the females are in oestrus and fertile and either side of those times show little enough interest in the females. Not great if it requires more time and resources to raise a child. Keeping human males guessing about oestrus, making sex part of pair bonding, keeping them guessing about paternity etc would keep them around for longer.

Other changes happened too. The loss of the penis bone in humans another. The penis got larger too. Humans have the largest of the great apes. Again more frontal. It could also be a big indicator of health and reproductive fitness. A properly functioning penis requires the cardiovascular system to be in good shape, blood sugars controlled, hormones balanced, nervous system in good order and even mental health comes into it. I've often wondered why it's not used more as a a diagnostic tool(pun kinda intended). Impotence is a very obvious sign of something being askew in the human male.

Then there's the migrating clitoris..

ohnonotgmail

Wibbs wrote: »

Not quite. As ohnonotgmail notes breast size has little to do with milk production. Well that's not quite true. Flat chested two fried eggs on an ironing board is no great shakes at milk production and it can naturally vary between women anyway. Hence one reason for the historical need for wet nurses in pretty much all cultures.

Men looking at them as signs of sexual maturity isn't an answer either. It could be a chicken and egg thing. It's highly likely to be a sexual trait as humans are unique among mammals for having permanently full breasts. Indeed to any of our great ape cousins full breasts are a turn off. Why? Because it says that the female is nursing and sub fertile while doing so. To a chimp flat chests would be Page 3 material. At some point in our evolution this was switched. Being bipedal our frontal aspect becomes more in play for a start. Secondly as our brains got bigger and childhood and child rearing became longer and longer in time, pair bonding became much more a thing, so it's possible permanently full breasts and a lack of obvious oestrus(another major change in humans) made males more likely to stick around for longer. A chimp male knows when the females are in oestrus and fertile and either side of those times show little enough interest in the females. Not great if it requires more time and resources to raise a child. Keeping human males guessing about oestrus, making sex part of pair bonding, keeping them guessing about paternity etc would keep them around for longer.

Other changes happened too. The loss of the penis bone in humans another. The penis got larger too. Humans have the largest of the great apes. Again more frontal. It could also be a big indicator of health and reproductive fitness. A properly functioning penis requires the cardiovascular system to be in good shape, blood sugars controlled, hormones balanced, nervous system in good order and even mental health comes into it. I've often wondered why it's not used more as a a diagnostic tool(pun kinda intended). Impotence is a very obvious sign of something being askew in the human male.

Then there's the migrating clitoris..

there is the what now?

Feisar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

larger breasts dont produce more milk. Breast size is irrelevant to milk production.

I'm generalizing here, where does the grá for big breasts come from?

ohnonotgmail

Feisar wrote: »

I'm generalizing here, where does the grá for big breasts come from?

Not really sure but it is a very modern one. Even 100 years ago flat chests were looked upon more favourably.

Plopsu

C'mon Wibbs, we all need to know what the migrating clitoris is all about. I guessing that a google search in work would be a bad idea.

looksee

Did anyone actually watch all of that video? It was generally quite interesting but I got fed up with it about half way through. I reckon he had a bet with a mate on how many times he could say 'breasts' in one video.

jimgoose

Plopsu wrote: »

C'mon Wibbs, we all need to know what the migrating clitoris is all about. I guessing that a google search in work would be a bad idea.

I tell you solemnly, it would be a fantastic name for an all-girl thrash metal outfit.

Oh and, tits. Yes indeed, I love tits. From elegant, pert little champagne glasses to almighty pendulous garbonzas.

kneemos

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

there is the what now?

Immigrants.

Woke Hogan

Former Observer wrote: »

Don't forget that many men have breasts. I see them everyday. Fat blokes with perfect little titties jiggling around beneath their Star Wars t shirts.

Posting about their bowel movements on Boards.ie

Day Lewin

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

larger breasts dont produce more milk. Breast size is irrelevant to milk production.

I know, darling: but men seem to have a proportionate reaction to their appearance. That bigger = better.

I dunno, ask the men why they prefer big ones!

ohnonotgmail

Day Lewin wrote: »

I know, darling: but men seem to have a proportionate reaction to their appearance. That bigger = better.

I dunno, ask the men why they prefer big ones!

as i said earlier this is quite a recent phenomenon. "bigger is better" is a minority opinion historically.

Feisar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

as i said earlier this is quite a recent phenomenon. "bigger is better" is a minority opinion historically.

So my love of big breasts is a social construct!?! My life is a lie!

ohnonotgmail

Feisar wrote: »

So my love of big breasts is a social construct!?! My life is a lie!

it kinda is. a social construct that is.

ILoveYourVibes

looksee wrote: »

Did anyone actually watch all of that video? It was generally quite interesting but I got fed up with it about half way through. I reckon he had a bet with a mate on how many times he could say 'breasts' in one video.

Guys watch the video ..its mad but its interesting.

Its all about us women hiding stuff and lying to our advantage!

Grab All Association

punisher5112 wrote: »

I can spell boob, boobs and boobies on my calculator....

You can also spell 819 80085 on a calculator
Big Boobs

Feisar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it kinda is. a social construct that is.

Do we have any original thoughts of our own at all?

Feisar

looksee wrote: »

Did anyone actually watch all of that video? It was generally quite interesting but I got fed up with it about half way through. I reckon he had a bet with a mate on how many times he could say 'breasts' in one video.

Watch some of his other vids. I follow him on youtube. I don't think he'd be the sort to have a bet on like that.

ILoveYourVibes

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it kinda is. a social construct that is.

Its not watch the video ...apparently breasts are liked by everyone in every culture ....worldwide even cultures where women go topless ....they are still liked ..and not just men like them ..women like them ..and babies of course like them.

Breasts are actually attractive to babies. Its not just the feeding.

orourkeda1977

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Yeah that's why ...nothing to see here ..don't believe the man saying breasts would lie ....would these lie to you??

This is the best pro breast argument i've seen this morning so far

Wibbs

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

there is the what now?

yeah. Basically in other great apes and mammals the clit is directly stimulated by intercourse, in humans it's not. It appears to have moved away from that, which makes no obvious sense. One hypothesis goes that it moved as a way to check if a man would take extra care and attention to a woman's pleasure. Such a man would be likely a better bet for raising kids in a pair bond as he would be more aware of others than a three pump chump.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Not really sure but it is a very modern one. Even 100 years ago flat chests were looked upon more favourably.

Indeed. What's considered attractive in women varies quite a lot by culture and time. There are certain fundamentals like clear youthful skin, glossy hair, big eyes, small jawline, larger forehead, hip waist ratio, but outside that it can be quite variable. You see this in the wets with its rapidly changing culture, a "pinup", the ideal of even a generation ago is less the ideal of today. Different sexual characteristics are the focus too. EG at the moment big arses are a thing, at least the arse is the focus. Look at all the Instagram dolly birds pouting for the camera contorting themselves to stick out their arses. In say the 90's it was more about the stomach of lack of it, all four packs and belly tops. Breast focus comes and goes too and even within that you have variability. So it was quite the thing in the 1960's but so was the waif look and Twiggy.

Can even be class and subculture based. So in the UK Page 3 of the Sun with the big bazongas was aimed at the working class, the middle and upper classes were less breast focused. The current big arse thing comes from US Black(Baby's got back) and Latin American culture.

On the other hand; what is seen as the ideal for men hasn't varied much from Classical times. A big mad ride of a man from Ancient Greece would have knicker elastic popping today.

ohnonotgmail

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its not watch the video ...apparently breasts are liked by everyone in every culture ....worldwide even cultures where women go topless ....they are still liked ..and not just men like them ..women like them ..and babies of course like them.

Breasts are actually attractive to babies. Its not just the feeding.

but not large breasts. bigger is not better in every culture. Bigger was not always better in our own culture until relatively recently.

Wibbs

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

This is the best pro breast argument i've seen this morning so far

Never was a breast type of man myself. Not the comically large ones anyway. C cup or less would be more my vibe. The big ones generally don't look so good unfettered and don't age well either.

shesty

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WN9Qzof5yXk


I am reminded of this scene....(sorry can't link properly on a phone!!!)

Day Lewin

shesty wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WN9Qzof5yXk


I am reminded of this scene....(sorry can't link properly on a phone!!!)

Ah, username reveal!

indioblack

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its all about us women hiding stuff and lying to our advantage!

Hard to believe, I know.

Ipso

Feisar wrote: »

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

as i said earlier this is quite a recent phenomenon. "bigger is better" is a minority opinion historically.

So my love of big breasts is a social construct!?! My life is a lie!

The term is mammary fluid.